mort zuckerman. >> the rational thing, the grown-up thing, which, of course is entirely irrelevant in this process is to find way to get our deficits under control, the debt under control, and to deal with the tax code so that we broaden the base and have enough revenues to, shall we say, encourage control over the medicare ahead dramatic problem. i don't know exactly when. we are going to have deficits and debts that we cannot control. there's going to be a breakdown in the economy. there already is. there is no confidence in the administration, no confidence in the government. we are having people buying $500 billion of our debt, china and japan, for example, do you think they are going to do it under these circumstances? we are looking at a tremendously difficult long- term problem, short-term problem, and immediate problem. >> actually, america is borrowing money at record low rates and the rest of the world parks their money here. i think we're in a strong position. i think the rational thing to do is to pass the legislation that the senate passed which extends the tax cuts for 9