mort zuckerman. i do think, you can disagree that the image of those two beheadings, was enough to turn not only a lot of american stom stomachs but change their view of taking on isis. >> without question. in one sense justified going back in, in a way that we're serious enough to try to blow them out of power that wanton cruelty in the way they killed those two american journalists was outrageous. accident. it really did provoke a sense that maybe we have to do something. neil: your paper, new york daily news, it was a seminol term, on front cover, said what is your tragedy now -- strategy now, mr. president, i am wondering, does that represent a tipping points on the part of say mainstream media. something changed then? >> yes, i agree. there was a sense of an administration -- that was a come he made, he made it a slip of the tongue. but i don't think it was a slip of the tongue, he was trying to say, we don't know what we're going to do that. but you don't say that. you know, the problem is that