. >> morten storm. for half a decade, he says he moves back and forth between two worlds and two identities. when one misplaced sentence could have cost him his life. >> you don't know what angle he's playing. >> traveling between atheism, hardline islam, english, and arabic. >> one minute he's 007. on the other side, he's now part of the militant circle. >> between being an agent for western intelligence and a sworn member of al qaeda. storm says he was a double agent. so trusted by al qaeda terror leaders he even fixed one up with a blond european wife. a unique, powerful weapon in the war on terror who says he got results. >> i have been responsible of 30 kills. >> 30 terrorists killed. >> in a race against time, trying to bring down the most dangerous terrorists before they can launch their next attack. double agent inside al qaeda for the cia. driving deep in yemen's lawless south. morten tomorrow is at the wheel on a spy mission for the cia. he's hoping this video may help lead his spy masters to

they meet inside a hotel in copenhagen. >> so the british want to use morten storm.this heard of in the spy world like this? >> no, i think it is very unusual for everybody to sort of want to feed off morten, i think it is quite unusual. >> storm says the british and cia exploit his terrorist links, sending him on trips to kenya to meet african jihadists. >> this is a place they meet in a hotel in nairobi. right next door to kenya's largest mosque. >> storm explains he delivered a blackberry to a tryst he says was wanted for his suspected role in the 1998 u.s. embassy bombings that killed 24 people. three months later, that terrorist was dead. storm says because of him. but his most important mission is yet to come in yemen. >> there was just -- the time -- i became an interesting person for them. >> for the cia? >> for the cia. >> anwar al-awlaki, american-educated cleric, storm calls him a personal friend from his days as a jihadist. anwar al-awlaki has been inspiring terrorist attacks from around the world. the 2005 suicide bombings, a london train and a double de

isn't that right, morten? >> you are so kind. >> he was a baker and boozer and found islam at the age of 21 on the coast of denmark. he was the true jihadist for nearly ten years before he decided in about 2006 it wasn't for him anymore because it moved beyond where he was comfortable. but his contacts were gold dust for the western intelligence agency and he was introduced to the cia. >> you said his mentor from 2006, a friend and mentor and those connections we had became interesting to the cia and other western intelligence services. he began the campaign of terrorism in the west inspiring lone wolf attacks. he was behind the underware b b bombing and others. -- underwear -- it was about the betrayal that was necessary were our security. morten, introduce yourself, buddy. >> hi, guys. thank you very much for coming. thank you for the international spy museum, maxed out, paul and tim you guys are super stars. sorry for all of the trouble i have given you for two years. i want to say thank you for the managem

morten storm? toll targets of danish intelligence, one of the people on their radar screen, somebody who had been in yemen with suspected of associating with al qaeda types over there, all of a sudden he is calling them up and he wants a meeting. this was a very exciting for danish intelligence, wasn't it? describe the scene in the hotel room when you have these two guys, these two handlers who are going to come in and basically try to recruit you. describe it. >> so we have -- this is -- most of the people know about how to flatter a potential agent or -- one of the tricks is to be very kind and to show understanding and tolerance. so these two danish intelligence officers, met me at the he -- at rad disson hotel in the swing suite. on the top floor, and they were trying to flatter me. came with the menu -- just to make me even more happy. would you like some more fish or this italian food? i looked at him. i go, no. i want something with pork, something with bacon in and it i want tooe have a bee

so ladies and gentlemen, morten storm.se] >> let me just mention one thing those that want more detail from these epiphanies comet it was the terrific podcast this evening but from our present historian and refer you to that and it should be up within two or three days. the "in-depth" interview on their experience with morten storm. >> 80 very much it is the pleasure to be here. i adore your team. and we are delighted to be here from the undisclosed location. but his story this is quite exceptional but someone has never gone so deep inside then comes back to tell the story but also someone deeply involved with western intelligence with some of the most counterterrorism operations. so that journey that we embarked on that he really does have insights and experiences. >> we found out his rolodex was something else. we've known now whether london or birmingham or denmark he was a rare yvette the people and were friends with them then in that moment he decided he could not deal with it any more. there was not the instant momen

isn't that right, morten? so kind. >> he was a baker and boozer and found islam at the age of 21 on the coast of denmark. he was the true jihadist for nearly ten years before he decided in about 2006 it wasn't for him anymore because it moved beyond where he was comfortable. but his contacts were gold dust for the western intelligence agency and he was introduced to the cia. >> you said his mentor from 2006, a friend and mentor and those connections we had became interesting to the cia and other western intelligence services. he began the campaign of terrorism in the west inspiring lone wolf attacks. he was behind the underware b b bombing and others. -- underwear -- it was about the betrayal that was necessary were our security. morten, introduce yourself, buddy. >> hi, guys. thank you very much for coming. thank you for the international spy museum, maxed out, paul and tim you guys are super

>> i felt -- the adrenalin, the excitement. >> adrenalin and anger become morten storm's trademark.y his early teens he was a boxer. >> boxing was a way to get out the aggressions. >> so your fighting was not limited to the rings. >> it was not limited to the rings. >> first time i met him, he was kind of a crazy person. and he talked a lot. >> what was he talking about? >> fights, brawls that he has been into. >> i would go to the clubs with friends, they were hated because they looked different. and i felt the need to stand up for them. would beat men with one punch. >> at age 19 he joins a famous biker gang. storm says he was their toughest enforcer, raw muscle. boxing, biking, armed robbery, whatever storm is doing he is always doing it to the max. his life is descending into criminality and chaos. storm craved insanity, stability. coming here, his local library drawn to the tiny religion section. he sees the book, the life of the prophet, mohammed. >> it is the moment when his life changes forever. he pulls the book from the shelf and finds somewhere to sit down. begins reading

what made them go more towards that mindset, morten? >> throughout the studies we came to the conclusion the jihadist is one of the most noble acts you can do as a muslim. if you die in fighting or having the intention while dying you die as a martyr. so the obligation was clear: something must be done. and considering the islam countries were all occupied either directly or indirectly by the western regimes who didn't honor the jihad. this was particularly when it came to jihad. >> tim, how far did events elsewhere in the late '90s and early 2000s inflame your passions? where were those events? and the people you were with -- did you find there was a pattern to their backgrounds? to the sort of people they were? >> yes. for the first question as for the conflict zones at that time we had somalia, jihad versus the christians and there was a little bit going on. just a few years before many friends went to bosnia to fight as well. so the jihad was real. so to most of them there was no motive. those people who drove them to afghanistan an

morten storm, a radical islamist who turned into a cia double agent and he's revealing deepest secrets: my life inside al qaeda and the cia." joining me once again, terrorism analyst, paul, one of st ways obviously of tacking these extremist groups is have somebody on the inside, double agents. >> he went deep into al qaeda's world, knew top terrorist leaders. he was their friend. they trusted him. afterwards when he was recruited by the cia, he was a hugely valuable spy inside al qaeda. >> how in the heck did he end up in his position? i understand he was a boxer, a biker, in and out of jail before he converted to radical slam. >> yeah he became radicalized, went to yemen, studied at a madrassa and introduced him to a fundamentalist form of the religion. he became further radicalized after that met some of the top figures in al qaeda, including the shoe bomber, including the 20th hijacker mousawi. this is the world he was moving in. when he began working for western intelligence in 2007, he was a gold mine of information. a gold mine of contacts. >> apparently he had a big role in kil

reception.li downstairs to look at a small percentage but numerically quite a few artifacts from morten life of the jihadist world and espionage. and also we did not get a chance to play the video of awlaki wife responding to the proposaly3 but that is in the lobby as well and i am told that for those who try to buy the book there was the problem up here but the bookstore downstairs is open for those who want to you get the book can get it by assuming you could get at least two of three authors could sign that. thank you for coming to the book's launch. [applause] the fine against insurgents in fallujah in 2007 and rightabout that day in their books "fallujah redux" they talk about their experience and the rise of isis politics & prose in washington d.c.. this is one of our. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. i am:owner of politics & prose in behalf of the entire staff, thinks for coming alex on this lovely afternoon. now is a good time to turn off your cellphone. when make it to the q&a session because we are being filmed%g, we would appreciate it if you would find your way

morten storm is his name.hen become a member of al qaeda and then a double agent. the story is chronicled in a new book "double agent for the al qaeda, inside of the cia." listen to this moment when he told officials that he wanted to fight terror. >> i told them that i wanted something with pork and bacon in it. >> and beer and bacon for the muslim. >> they could not believe it, their own ears. i told them, guys, i am no longer muslim and i want to fight the war on terror and i'm going to be on the right side, and he said, this is doing to be great. >> i want to bring in nic robertson who you saw interviewing him, and paul kr cruikshank who co-wrote the book. and gentlemen, this is an intriguing and twisted tale. paul, start with you, how did the documentary come to light and how did we find out about all of this? >> well, the danish newspaper broke the initial details on the story, and so nic and i contacted this guy on the facebook page, and the facebook page of the cover company he was using in the espiona

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