[screaming] will>>chris: welcome back to mosaic. i am here today talking with father john who works at the archdiocese of san francisco and we're talking about touching on the essence of asic catholic teachings. we've gone through a lot and there are some other ones that have to do with sexuality and are often misunderstood. maybe a brief understanding to help us understand the concept of what the church believes. >> the basic notion is that a man woman coming together in marriage should be open to the gift of life. it's something given by god and they should be open. they can be intimate with one another where it's less likely that a woman will get pregnant but in that situation you have to be open to life. >>chris: there's so much we can talk about. homosexual acts one of the church beliefs on homosexual acts? acts always belong in a certain context. so homosexual acts should only occur or any action only occur in marriage. homosexual acts should not occur and that's just the reason our bodies are not made like that so what can ea

welcome to mosaic. i'm rabbi eric weiss. i'm happy to be coast this morning. the bay area is noted for its advancements in medical care and medical technology. and in particular the notion that one is treating the whole person. in that context the field of spiritual care has emerged as a paramount concern for folks may go to a hospital system or healthcare situation. we want to invite you into a conversation about spiritual care and our hospitals and healthcare system with reverend. tom harshman was director of mission integration at sequoia hospital which is a division of dignity health. and reverend. julie hamada who >>> a spiritual care california pacific medical center affiliated with sutter health. i also want to add is that while i'm not posting mosaic on the ceo of a jewish organization that is called the bay area jewish healing center. we provide jewish spiritual care to folks who are ill, dying, and bereaved throughout the bay area. and in particular we are a jewish central care resource for folks like reverend. harshman and reverend. i'm not provide

welcome to mosaic. i am ron swisher. this is a day of pentecost. for some it means birthing of the church as well as the broadening of the church. the birthing will we might sing happy birthday but may also be singing in christ there is no east or west for we broaden our mission and ministry on this day of pentecost. last time you saw me was on easter. i had two dynamic guests at that time who told us a lot about easter. i was so inspired i asked them to come back. we are blessed to have carroll and jim. welcome back. you were so dynamic, both of you, that we were on youtube for the first time. >> wow! >> youtube celebrated its 10th year anniversary last month and they celebrated by having us on there. >> i didn't get any word that we went viral. >> i know a lot of people knew a lot about easter at that time because of you folks here. hopefully they'll feel the same after hearing about pentecost. before we do that carroll, tell us about your background and ministry. >> okay. i am a native san francisco, very proud to have been born and raised here

>>> hello and welcome to mosaic. i'm here to introduce to you in a moment, my guest father -- and we'll talk about some of the more frequently discussed and believed in and essential teaching to the catholic faith. and i hope you enjoy the show. it will be a quick show because we'll try to cover a lot of ground. but i want to let you know at the web site, sfare muchdiocese.org, you can click on what we believe for a list of those things. you can go to the page itself. here we go. i like to introduce to you the father who is the vicker for the administration here in san francisco. welcome. >> great to be here again with you, chris. >> you have recently written an article that will be published in the catholic san francisco newspaper that -- there's a great introduction that what we're going to talk about. will you let us note gift let us know about that? >> people tend to follow different trend. and there are always counter cultures and different ethnic groupses and over time, they have an influence. and they can have

ron swisher welcome back to mosaic on this mother's day. a special treat today. two women pastors and woman rabbi for you to honor this day. pastor elizabeth axtell is at st. mark's church lutheran church in the city. maggie henderson maggie henderson avenue, presbyterian church only joined by ralph rabbi singer later in the program. welcome ladies. >> thank you. >> it's a joy to have you here. what do to talk about? >> we want to talk about women in the ministry. here in the city and what we do our colleagues do and how great they participate in the life of the city. in their parish or synagogue or other institutions. >> terrific. awarded at st. mark's where is it? >> st. mark's is in the civic center area above city hall. we collect cathedral hill. it is a parish that has been around for over 160 years. we've been in that neighborhood for over 100 years. it's a vital active vibrant parish. here in san francisco. >> you've been there 17 years? >> a long time. >> not so long. >> reverend. making-year-old first first presbyterian. >> it's in sacramento. one of the

said once those things happen to occurring investigations the chronicle investigation and there's an mosaicctive investigation criminal investigation is focused only whether a crime was contempt by any of the parties involved in the incident i talk about the jurisdiction all before it is whatever the law enforcement agency is responsibly for the place of the crime you'll have jurisdiction mosaic active or personnel investigation is focused more on policies did the officer fire his or her weapon and that investigation whether locate go tactics and train and policy jurisdiction is law enforcement agency that employees the officer that explains how you can have the san mateo county law enforcement or the san francisco law enforcement working on the same case before we get go the two investigations we're talking about the process i want to what happens at the scene at the first 10 days what happened then to the officers initially i want to talk about the immediate handing of the officer at the scene inspection could you hand out the cards so inspector monroe gave you a card there were two cards

basis or coming to the working group we've talked about the allocations to use multiple model in a mosaic approach we try to be dynamic with the 7 years outlook to tilt the portfolio when we see outside risk investment we don't see those now but most markets are valued we try to be innovative overall organizational cultural we collaborate with managers and bring them ideas and build products products we'll not be academy but launching a product and having providence priorities in the founders class of benefit our clients long-term and in collaboration with our clients 0 work to customized solution once we get those ideas into the portfolios to make sure it is efficient in the portfolio and then ongoing monitoring of the managers as well on page 7 by 7 as you can see the research team i think the points are that there is coverage across everything every category you saw on the page the consultant also on there the growth and research over time this is research has been part of the mp c culture with the 39 team we'll continue to grow as we think about the next 5 years not in that fashion et

a subterranean world of mosaics chandeliers, architecture and exquisite detail. however beautiful all this is it is not a museum it's a transport network. 196 stations, 10,000 trains a day, 12 lines 327 kilometers of track, and on an average working day, 8 million passengers are carried. by the time the first train started rolling may 15, 1936, there were already 15 other underground networks in europe. moscow may have been late, but this was stalin's project executeed in stalin's grandiose style. a boast to his own people and the world's of come communism's greatness. >> like many transport systems it has proven a soft target, suicide-bombers killed 40 people in 2010. and a few accidents like last year's fatal underground derailment have tarnished an otherwise pretty good safety record. but the system's main challenge is how to cope with the overcrowding and financial constraints of a mega city holding between 13 and 17 million people. we have a plan to increase in our metro system and double our metro lines. >> the metro built to display the ussr is moving with

the city is required to provide that not elizabeth and richard they shouldn't be penalized for the mosaic forgive error any building codes can be corrected at reasonable costs as i've stated the ceiling height and the numerous fire hazards the cost of demolition are not in comparison to what it takes to bring this unit up to code thank you. >> okay mr. sanchez. >> thank you scott sanchez planning department regretfully it was issued in error without the b b n notice filed on february 17th of this year the permit was approved in error the following day and unclear in the record were not updated in the stem but based on in b b n it is showing received and into the records on the 17 the subject property is within the rh2 zoning district that only allows two dwelling units, however, under the code they could attempt to legalize it i'll defer to joyful it maybe out of inclines and how life-threatening it maybe but the permit was issued in error we'll respectfully request the board grant and appeal and deny the variance and the refiling the permit i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> mr. s

executed under the program those loan agreements are still needing staff time this work is paid for ocii mosaic active cost allowance next the shore view park and is hunters point area this fiscal year staff will extend $17 million ordinary person is shore park more is management contract and implementing the strategy once approved the staff time and property management a paid for in addition their carrying forward and budgeting a further 3 hundred and 8 thousand for capital and deferred maintenance and shore park the source of funds is community block grant program income generated from parcels at the ocii owns on williams this is occupied by food co-ocii anticipates transferring this pursuant to the t m t and may transfer other sources at the same time and including the legal fees the d cf will be approving and they'll be through property tax increment that concludes my portion of the project we'll be back to finish it off. >> thank you ceo's 8110 wrapping with the next steps on may 5th accident full budget will be coming before you for adoption and submission to is mayor's office at the boar

an celebrate in determining how much time for the clerk time and how much time to be spend on the mosaicime there are a slight change in the numbers and in the end it will mean a savings of 15 plus thousand dollars for the lafco for the purposes i'll be suggesting we take that amount of money and return that in addition to the number we pledged to your honor to the city and county 0 we'll be this year ac hundred and 24043 and keeping that and returning hundred and 63289 bad actor to the city and county once again encouraging us we're keeping hundred and 97 thousand and returning hundred and 63 must to the city and county to use as it sees fit that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> do we have to make a motion. >> yes. >> okay. so let me see if i got that right i'll go to public comment go that believe public comment is closed. and so in our motion we want to say we're keeping the stature amount but running to the city clerk's office. >> it is 298342 so we get the full amount in there are. >> i'll stipulate the motion the motion to be retain the staurlt a

try to put together a mosaic a mosaic that can give us some ideas that just might work out ultimately as stocks in our portfolios. to begin with last night we got a disturbing report from urban outfitters. here's a company with three chains people for teens, anthropology eclectic housewares and wedding dresses. and urban outfitters. urban had been experiencing a huge turn around. one or two of its divisions always seemed to be sputtering. late last neither stars aligned. the whole company began to deliver terrific growth firing on all three major cylinders. that is until the last few weeks of the quarter. when anthropology simply hit a wall. it was a huge shock both to wall street and to the company itself which expressed ex strooems stream disappointment and surprise about anthropology's performance. with the stock down 15% today, it's obvious investors have totally turned on urban and given up on it. but anytime a stock's down that much in one session with a good balance sheet and long term equality management you do have to stop everything. you have to listen to the call do the wor

. >> deep beneath the streets a lavish subterranean world of mosaics sandlers, grand architecture and exquisitely rendered details. and people in a hurry lots of them because however beautiful all this is, it's not a museum, it's a transport network. 196 stations, 10,000 trains a day, 12 lines 327 kilometers of track and on average working day 8 million passengers, moscow undenybly has one of the world's greatest metro systems. by the time the first train started rolling may 15, 1935, there were already 15 other underground networks in europe. mostmoscow's may have been late, but this was stalin's project. a boast to his own people and the world of communism's radiant future. the expansion pushed on even while moscovites hid from world war ii's bombs. >> every station has its history. except the station that has existed for 80 years. everyone carries a layer of energy put into it over 80 years by the people who maintained them and used them. >> in recent years like many transport systems the moscow metro has proven a soft target, suicide-bombers killed 40 people in 2010. and a few acc

and move forward i want to locate what we seek to do as a practice in terms of whether that's an mosaic active or penalty task so built in more robust oversight at least at the commission level we say an understanding of what is happening around forfeitures. >> maintenance was it was not so much focused on forfeitures but focused on complaints that were either passed or where we stepped up to the plate down we would get a monthly report of the status of claimed that might include forfeitures but coping us on top of so we wouldn't get into a situation adapting rules and regulations that will cause it to be before the commission on a periodic basis to make a determination but i don't think that was limited to forfeitures. >> commissioner. >> in response to commissioner vice president andrews i'm certainly not against the procedure that has the commission have to approve forfeiture waivers over a certain amount policy wise i think that could be a go policy determination wasn't i'm hearing to throughout this discussion this sound like we are trying to make a decision about whether the statu

you can look at tysons, the mosaic district, clarendon, any of the other major walkable communities that have sprung up around the metro. >> virginia transportation secretary aubrey lane says he will only support a project that has some sort of transit option, but one vdot plan leaves no option for future bus or rail expansion outside the beltway. >>> an oil spill along the california coast stretches about 9 miles long. crews have been trying to clean up what has washed ashore after up to 105,000 gallons leaked from a broken pipeline into the bay pacific ocean. the oil slick near santa barbara is already coating birds and threatening other wildlife. the beaches could be off limits for swimmers and campers this holiday weekend. >>> back your bags, fill your tank or book that flight, about 900,000 folks from the d.c. region will head out of town this holiday weekend and by far most will travel via car. nationwide travel number are enormous. >> reporter: nationwide aaa is projecting we'll have over 37 million travelers this holiday weekend, the highest volume we've seen in 10 years. >> lovi

. >> reporter: deep beneath russian streets a lavish subterranean world of mosaics, chandeliers, grandople in a hurry, lots of them. because however beautiful all of this is it's not a museum it's a transport network. 196 stations, 10,000 strains per day, 12 lines, 327 kilometers of track and an on average working day, 8 million passengers are carried. moscow has one of the world's greatest metro systems. by the time the first train started rolling, may 15th, 1935 there were already 15 other underground networks in europe. moscow's may have been late but this was stalin's project executed in his grandiose style. expansion pushed on even while they were hiding from world war ii bombs. >> translator: every station has its history, especially those that existed for 80 years. everyone carries a layer of energy put into it. >> reporter: in cent years, like many transport systems, the moscow metro has proven a soft target. suicide bombers riled 40 people in 2010 and last year's fatal underground derailment have tan initialled another wise pretty good safety record but the main challenge in t

you need all of those points of view into cutting between them to assemble a mosaic that comes close to telling the entire story. do. >> the divenlings being that in world war ii, there have been tens of thousands of hist occurs who have collected those points of view with king's lands, it's you. how do you keep it straight and be able to adjust and reflect the points of views in so many different ways? >> i have glibly said with increasing difficulty but that's not far from the truth. it is big. i have charts, jeanologies, maps, various files. i refresh myself. i am aided by the fact that i think my brain is wired differently than a normal person's. i use brain sin answersynapses. i forget real people instantly. i will remember some guy who appeared briefly if a book that i wrote fwrefl years ago. >> still ahead, we will ask george r.r. martin how the series ends. stay with us. >> "inside story" takes you beyond the headlines, beyond the quick cuts, beyond the sound bites. we're giving you a deeper dive into the stories that are making our world what it is. >> ray suarez hosts "insi

. >> deep beneath moscow's streets, one of the wonders is buried a subterranean world of mosaics, grandex quis itlyexquisitely rendered detail. but it's not a museum. it's a transport network. 190 stations, 10,000 trains, today 12 lines 327 kilometers of track and on an average working day 8 million passengers. moscow undeniably has one of the world's greatest metro systems. by the time first train started rolling, may 15th, 1935, there were already 15 other underground networks in europe. moscow's may have been late but this was stalin's project executed in stalin's grandiose style. a boast to his own people and to the world expansion pushed on even when muskovites hid from world war ii's bombs. >> the unique architecture, every one carries a layer ever energy. >> reporter: in recent years like many transport systems the moscow metro has proven to be a soft target. suicide bombers killed 40 in 2010. last year's fatal underground derailment have tarnished a pretty good safety record. the main challenge is how to cope with the overcrowding and financial restraints of a mega-city holding

and we can see stuff people have been bringing, shells and a lot of candles and we're making a mosaic>> uh-huh. i made tennessee. >> and so here i am making a vodou offering to a woman who died over 10 years ago but as long as i'm here at the present time, i'm wondering if there is any good ju ju that could help me with physical concerns. >> every part of my body hurts, especially my back. >> we have a mere arcle -- a merekle healing candle. >> and we have oils. this is drag on blood. >> this is black cat bone. >> i have a black cat wat home. >> does he have any bones. >> he does. he's using them right now. >> and i'll light my miracle healing candle. >> why is everybody grouped together. >> because everybody wants to be at the central highway between the visible andin vezible world and that world is more powerful and beautiful and vast and full of more potential in life than what we see on the surface and for the slaves that was an incredibly empowering thought and the vodou practice was pulling through great power. >> how many are practicing vodou. >> >> 50 million to 80 million wor

the question is maybe i don't think i am using the mosaic approach, but doesn't there come a time, this is what did they are contending, it doesn't that come time when the old-fashioned register, we recognize what was recognized for a long time where the amount of data you have that sort is so detailed and so extensive that in fact it is a content divulging action rather than not. the whole point again this morning. the point, something you already give out is given to a fair and party. in is not as though you are listening in which would be different and it is question is whether the methods have become so sophisticated have analyzing this kind of data that this unlike the pen register, in this case you are finding out content content. is there any oomf to that idea? >> this is one of the issues that has a benefactor in the public debate over the last year since disclosures. a couple points. first, again, which are talking about the same type of information that was at issue in smith. to the extent -- >> to the point of what you are saying. each piece of metadata, do the analysis that

a lavish world of mosaics, grand architecture and exquestion it is detail.e in a hurry, lots of them. because however beautiful it all is it's not a museum. it's a transport network. 196 stations, 10,000 trains per day. 12 lines, 327 kilometers of track, and an on average working day, 8 million passengers are carried. moscow undeniably has one of the world's greatest metro systems. by the time the first train started rolling, there were already 15 other underground networks in europe. moscow's may have been late but this was stalin's project, executed in stalin's grandiose style. a boast of communism's raidant future. >> translator: every station has its history, especially the stations that have existed for 80 years. they are unique in architecture. every one carries a layer of energy put in to them. >> reporter: in recent years like many transport systems the moscow metro has proven a soft target. s bombers killed 40 people in 2010, and a few accidents like last year's fatal derailment have tan initialled another wise pretty good safety record but the syst

. >> you can do a mosaic. >> i can abstract you. >> i would like, claude manet and then it would be all you love it, you will love mine. i have a ton of pieces very similar to that. >> that is great. >> i love monet. >> i have been there three times, okay. >> i rode a bike to his home, and i have stood on a bridge. >> did you paint it. >> no. >> she wins mike, she wins. >> you're the best. >> so nice meeting you. >> do you want to see john beef i again. >> is he talking yet. >> just sitting there and staring, and smiling. >> breathing. >> well, breathing. >> yes. >> i see him there in black. >> there he is. >> they are long and boring. >> he is getting nervous now. >> he can't win. >> he does look nervous doesn't he. >> yes, my gosh. >> it the is very early for him. >> he is a rocker. >> he is not used to getting up so early. >> speaking of the beach you live there on had malibu beach. i saw a magazine cover with you in a bikini, when was that taken. >> that was taken i think last year. but don't look now. >> is that you. >> yes. >> mike. >> wow. >> i guess you have to tell me your work

maybe you agree but how do you fit that into your overall mosaic?as we look at the russell 2,000. it had a major setback to support. i think that breakout in fact this is not the type of behavior you see with the russell turning off new absolute highs. we like both big and sainte-paul caps. this is a very big region. small caps, we're not seeing that right now. >> ari, back to the large caps. maybe you mentioned selling the safety. they're big components of the s&p 500. can it make a meaningful breakout above 2120 without these massive components? to me that's one of the reasons why we have been churning in this 100 point range. a lot of these names have a lot of head winds. >> what we seen are these relative rotation, one area takes a back seat. they actually are moving sideways and under reporting a rising equity market but there are plenty big cap names that continue to act a lot better. apple, a big part of the s&p 500 coming off the new all time highs, so it's a little mixed here. that's a sign of a healthy bull market. >> ari wall, thank you.

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. >> we have a news alert on mosaic. dom?w the current president and the ceo of the company he will be stepping down. he will be replaced by james o'rourke. he's currently the chief operating officer of the company. the shares are not moving but still an interesting change here. mr. o'rourke had been with the -- has been with the company since 2009. in an executive capacity. before that he was an executive with barrett gold. so the current president and ceo will step down -- effective august 5th to be replaced by current coo james o'rourke. back over to you, melissa. >> thank you, dom. we haven't talked about fertilizers in a very long time. here we are. >> we're starting to see activity in this space. some of the m & a activity is starting to percolate with the food trade and the ags all together, they have been out of favor. potash i like demand and supply balances are in the supply now. >> let's get to josh lipton, with the roundup of the cisco call. >> well, on the call melissa, the cisco call we finally did hear from inc

militias used it as a military base, even creating a sniper's nest in this 1,500 year old mosaic. lebanese archaeologists raced to protect the pieces that couldn't be moved by surrounding them with concrete. >> we had armed forces here, sometimes inside the museum. so they used to make a small fire, in order to make tea or coffee. so you see the burning spots that were outside. >> reporter: when the war ended the concrete was removed. these 3,000 year old sarcophagi are now the centerpiece of the national museum. >> reporter: all of these marks here are shrapnel. they would have been destroyed. >> yeah of course. >> reporter: and they made it. >> yeah, they made it. >> reporter: but the battle for history in syria is much harder to fight. >> in lebanon, the conflicting parties were not trying to erase the memory and the past of the other, but in syria the i.s. or they are trying to erase all the memory of the history of the other and this is very, very dangerous. it's like eradicating the whole past of a community. >> reporter: and with 200,000 people killed and nine million peopl

in the mosaic browser showed up, people noticed. it had images in color and formatted text. it was quite eye-opening. on top of that, browsers had this feature that if you wanted to see how the webpage was built, you could ask the browser to show you the html, the hypertext markup language. it was open, everybody could copy everyone's web languages and they did admit the more interesting. the webmaster was a kind of role which didn't exist before the world wide web. it was sort of enhanced by the fact that everyone can share each other's webpages and how they were built. the thing that astonished me was the amount of content that poured into the net once web browsers and html were available. it was just astonishing how much information people wanted to share, not because they want to be paid, but they wanted to know their information was useful to some alleles. you hear the story about information is power. nonsense. it information sharing that is power. we have seen it over the past 20 decades or 20 years. we are going to see it over the next 20 years, maybe the next 20 dec

but when the mosaic browser showed up around 1993 this was absolutely astonishing because it turned the internet into a magazine. it had imagery and color and formatted text. it was really quite eye opening. on top of that, the browsers had this feature that if you wanted to see how the web page was built, you could ask the browser to show you the html. so this was open. everybody could copy everybody's web page and they did. then they found new ways of making them more interesting. so the webmaster was a kind of role which didn't exist before the worldwide web, and it was sort of enhanced by the fact that everybody could share each other's web pages and how they were built. so the thing that astonished me was the amount of content that poured into the net once web browsers and html were available. it was just astonishing how much information people wanted to share, not because they wanted to be paid, but they wanted to know that their information was useful to somebody else. so you hear this story about information is power. nonsense. it's information sharing that's power. we've seen i

that is also a joint venture today and with mosaic of the united states, i think there will be a lot reorganization at that level as well. making it much more professional and we'll see how that develops. the purpose of all this is to end up having this large state companies provide facilities for smaller companies to create jobs. one of the key issue of course is security as has been mentioned, but the second biggest issue, if not the biggest in saudi arabia today, is creating jobs for their young saudis. i would not be surprised if muhammad is now in place because the need to create jobs for 60% of the population, which is the age of 30, so they provided one job already. they need to -- i think that's what's going to happen. david: let me come back to you. i could read the moving of the deck chairs in two ways. one is saudi ramco will be more autocratic and look at increasing solar, less of the oil for power generation finding ways to access gas. the other way to read it is that there isn't a c.e.o. of saudi ramco yet, the chairman has never been traditionally the leader of the org

word to use but i am just grateful but with regard to surprises nobody really noticed the when the mosaicrowser showed up this was astonishing because it turned the internet into a magazine on top of that the browsers had a featured you wanted to see how the web page was built you have it show you that ht about. this was open and everybody could copy a web page to and they found ways to make it interesting. so one was of role that did not exist before the web and was enhanced that every eddie shares the web pages somewhat astonished the was the amount of content with web browser is it html was available it is astonishing how much people wanted to share to know that their information was useful to somebody else if you hear information is power it is nonsense is this information sharing and we will see that over the next 20 years or decades. what i like the most is it evolves and scales there are not too many protocols it has invited creativity we use that permission lists very creatively and it should stay that way. you are said to lebed a candidate for the chief technology officer but the

i don't think i am using the mosaic approach. but, but doesn't there come a time, and this is what the plaintiffs are contending, doesn't there come a time when the old pen register that was used in smith versus maryland, where the amount of data that you have of that sort is so detailed and so extensive, that in fact it is a content that bulging action rather than not. the whole point of the instructions and i read it again this morning. the point was it is something that you already give out. it is given to a third party. it is not as though you are listening in which would be different. it is i think a question. or a question is, whether the methods have become so sophisticated in analyzing this kind of data that this, unlike the pen register, in this case you are finding out about content. is there any umph to that idea? >> this is a factor in the public debate over the last years. i think a couple of points. we are talking about the same type of information that was -- >> to that point, what he was just saying they didn't go

tell you with what problem i have the of that not just that it is the old days but not just with the mosaic but doesn't dare come a time when the old-fashioned to recognize for a long time with admitted data of that sort is so detailed and extensive that's it is content divulging actions rather than not but the whole .11 is is something that you already give out. is not as though you're listening which would be different. a course to become so sophisticated that unlike the register you are finding content is there any validity to that idea? >> will certainly this is one of the issues in the public debate with disclosures. first we are talking about the same type of information with. >> but to that point they did to each piece of metal data analysis he said it is a third-party but doesn't it require based upon and the right to your privacy and to make that determination why do you have to go through that exercise? >> reflex talking about the type of information that it is the same type of call detail records in smith. so the number calls and number received time and duration not talking abou

collect the threads of intelligence that come from different sources in trying to put together the mosaic or the puzzle as to whether or not this is something that we need to deal with and take it seriously. it's a major piece of that puzzle that we obtain from the 215 program which is the collection of phone numbers -- not the names of who owns those numbers -- it is the collection of -- of what's called metadata and it's been described as simply the same things that's on your telephone bill that the supreme court has said is not a breach of the fourth amendment and is not privileged for privacy purposes. it is the date the call was made it was the duration of the call. it was the number that was called. and that is it. that's the collection. and those numbers are put into a system whereby we can check against that a number that suspiciously is talking to a foreign operative in a foreign country. and that then triggers -- automatically triggers, you better look at this. it's kind of a ping. you better look at this one. nobody has access at this point to any content related to that or eve

however with regard to surprises nobody really noticed the when the mosaic browser showed up this was absolutely astonishing because it had imagery and color and eye opening but on top of that if you want to see how the well-paid church was built it has the html everybody could cop the everybodies web pages so the web master it was enhanced that of the betty could share all their web pages so what astonished me was the amount of content from when html was available it is astonishing how much information and people wanted to share their information was useful to someone else nonsense information in sharing is power and we will see that over the next 20 years as well. so what i like the most if it is a scalable 1 million times bigger with too many protocols aided has invited creativity you don't have to get permission from every isp in the world to put it up on the net day and it should stay that way. >> you are said to have been in candidate for u.s. chief technology officer but of larger question is whoof you consider moving to the government side to sort out these issues in the ec ro