mara lives on moscow street, and the street does indeed lead to moscow.he moved here 12 years ago. now, she lives as a latvian in "maskatschka," or, "little moscow." she also had her two children here. it's a neighborhood that doesn't really feel like part of the eu. mara loves the area, but acknowledges its less positive aspects. there are few jobs, and drug-dealers on every other street corner. it's a world unto itself, where people watch russian television. hardly anyone speaks latvian, even though it's impossible to vote, get a passport, or work for the government without the language. until the outbreak of the crimean conflict, latvian tv had no russian-language programming -- a gap exploited by moscow. now, state tv has a special new service catering to that audience. ms. safronova: it's never too late to do something. we've waited 25 years in latvia to have russian language tv for our minority. we lost a lot of people to russian tv. reporter: in their attempt to compete with russian media, the russian language latvian broadcaster has found allies i

, 90% of money are in moscow. 99% of important political decisions are made in moscow. if you want to make media, you have to stay in moscow. there is not any secret, we have journalists on the ground. we have special reporters desk in moscow. and we actually have the sales department in moscow, because we are, you know, dealing with russian companies who are russian department of international companies. plus we have network of freelancers. so it works. >> actually it was ivan's dream to make popular media oud russia. >> outside moscow. >> outside moscow. >> from nowhere. >> is it like nebraska? >> it's like nebraska. >> it's like albuquerque. >> albuquerque, okay. like the dakotas, exactly. tell us this, galina, do your stories that you break influence russian estate media? and can you give us an example, if you have? >> we were instigators for russian state media, because they were hunting and catching us with cameras. and they did their prime time programs about us. >> as top anti-russian. >> yes. and -- but now, you know, there is some -- because at the 26th of mar

moscow is getting better. moscow has some -- on the streets. people are saying that moscow is so beautiful, we are so proud of -- proud of our mayor that they of theo this -- decorations. this is how it works. there is a dramatic difference between the reality you get from the state controlled -- or state influenced media or independent media. your messageink here in your model is very exciting for journalist. there is a journalist in our audience from auditor by zahn -- audience from cause extent, spec from kazakhstan. you have any advice for people who want to try something like this? ivan: i worked in these countries, they have exiled media. melinda: kazakhstan. ivan: i think they have, yeah. know, i do not know is it proper step two give advice -- to give advice, but as all ofi understand, those media, they are noncommercial organization. think that financial independence is part of media independence. to the editor in not evensaid "you did ,hink about commercial revenue let's try to be independent not wit

is in moscow. 90% of the money is in moscow. the political decisions are made in moscow. you have to stay in moscow. secret we have journalists on the ground and reporters in moscow. we actually have our sales department in moscow because we are dealing with russian companies and russian departments of international company's. -- international companies. make aas his dream to popular media outlet outside of moscow. is it like nebraska? >> like albuquerque. one of the dakotas. of the your coverage stories you break influence russian state media? >> at first, we were newsmakers for russian state media. hunting and getting us with cameras and they did their primetime programs about us. as the top anti-russian media -- , there's a you know tricky situation. , on the 26th of march, there were huge demonstrations, 100 cities took part in this. no one from state media covered these situations. there were no programs, no news , norage, no articles columns about those protests. began topropaganda guy broadc

we caution this is based on reporting by kiss lee ok up to the superiors in moscow that reporting was captured on intercep intercepts. intelligence agencies are known sometimes known to put disinformation into their feeds to sow confusion, sometimes senior officials in reporting can exaggerate a little bit, but if this report is true than it means kushner was seeking a secure channel during the transition period in the weeks leading up to the inauguration with the government of an adversary that intelligence agencies concluded had meddled in the trump election to help trump get elected. >> what would be your understanding why kushner exactly wanted a set up like this at the russian embassy? >> well, we don't know for sure why or, you know, indeed whether in fact this is true, but apparently the idea was to have secure means of communicating that would be beyond, you know, the reach of u.s. intelligence agencies or oranther intelligen agencies. was meant to keep their channel of communications very private. >> in other words have a dialogue with the kremlin that the u.s. presumably wou

. >> anderson, i have been giving speeches in moscow going back over a decade. all the top universities. >> do you ever talk to anyone in the trump campaign about lifting sanctions on russia? you said you send them policy papers. >> i have -- look, anderson, i don't talk about internal discussions or things that may have been confidential internally. >> you talked about sending policy papers. >> i had no specific conversation that i can recall. again, nothing that has anything to do with what was discussed in the hearings today. i think there's -- >> there's a number of statements that -- there's a number of statements that you have made that i'm trying to pin down. you have given seemingly conflicting accounts, the number of interviews you have done. your exact role in the campaign, that's been in doubt. you said in december, long after you were let go by campaign, in a press conference in moscow to russian reporters that you had a number of meetings with donald trump. when you and i spoke last you admitted they weren't -- you weren't in any actual meetings wit

in moscow every year, moscow buys these new year decorations. so we made the story and we decorated all of this decorations like christmas but we are celebrating new year in russia but not celebrating here. so our main holidays new year. we are proud of this tradition so, every year the moscow government buys these two stupid decoration to make the city more beautiful. and from the point of view. we publish this story about the price of these decorations there four times bigger than on the market. so it is just a clear piece. but at the same time we see in moscow a media or russia television the moscow getting better, they have some spots on the street and people are telling that moscow is so beautiful. we're so proud of. we're so proud of the decorations like how does it work. is the difference between the reality that you get from the state control first and influence media. >> i think your message in your model is very exciting for journalists. thinking there's a journalist for other post-soviet countries were freedom of speech is a big issue

sounds like, now, we caution that this is based on reporting by kislayak, up to the superiors in moscow. that reporting was captured on intercepts. and, you know, this could be russian intelligence agencies are known sometimes to put disinformation into their feeds in order to sow confusion. intelligence officials exaggerate at point, but if this is true, it means kushner was seeking a secure channel during the transition period, with the government of an adversary that the intelligence agencies had concluded had meddled in the presidential election, to help donald trump get elected. >> what would be your understanding, why kushner exactly wanted a setup like this at the russian embassy? >> we don't know for sure why, whether indeed this is true, but apparently, the idea was to have a secure means of communicating, if that would be beyond, you know, the reach of u.s. intelligence agencies or other intelligence agencies, will submit to keep their channel of communications very private. >> in other words, have a dialogue with the kremlin that the u.s. presumably would not be able to monit

i'm in moscow all the time. i'm on this advisory board for donald trump. i met him.ay have thought, well, you know, this is a guy we have to look at who can provide access, even though he didn't have any. >> the russian spies talking about him in not the most glowing terms. >> in 2013, a russian spy called him an idiot. but nevertheless was getting -- >> that doesn't mean he wouldn't have access. >> he has a history. they have had dealings with him. he doesn't seem to care. >> he's also -- i mean will not say a negative word about vladimir putin or russia's international stance or human rights record. >> and when he does say anything, it's unclear. he is one of a group of people, you ask simple questions like how did you get involved with the campaign? i shouldn't say. i can tell you everybody who helped get me a job in my career. it's not a secret. i don't get why these are secret. it adds up to lots of unanswered questions. >> or that notion of, well, i met the russian ambassador for ten seconds at the republican national convention, but it was a confidential meeti

then it it was sent to moscow. i took that with me when i came to the united states and used this to build an i.d. and identity with genuine american document. >> wasn't just about building a name. there is a whole backstory. >> oh, sure. >> covering an i.d. is one thing but the kgb helped create a entire person behind jack barsky. >> sure. according to that birth certificate i was born in '44. so that made me already in my, my early 30s when i came here. made me five years older than i was. i was born in '49. so we constructed a cover story that started out with a birth certificate and then there was an agent in new york who went around the city and took pictures of places where i could have lived. where i went to school. middle school, elementary school, high school. and even found information about a took -- a factory that i could have worked out, a factory in downtown manhattan that manufactured chemicals hand had burned down. so there was no mirrored of that factory. so we covered a period of my life in the u.

his communications with moscow, they are under surveillance. they are intercepted, and this is how the u.s. intelligence picked up on what was discussed in this meeting with kushner. >> sreenivasan: how do we know that sergey kislyak was being honest to his superiors? >> well, we don't know for sure. russian officials and intelligence operatives will often push falsehoods into communications channels that they know the united states is monitoring, just to sow confusion, but in this case, it's hard to imagine what the motive would have been for kislyak to mischaracterize his conversation with kushner in this way. in fact, kislyak seemed taken aback by this request, based on how he's relaying this to moscow. he can't really believe, why would they want to do this? why are they asking for this? it seems strange to him. it doesn't fit in with him exaggerating his relationship with kushner or at that time really trying to... what would be the point of putting kushner in a vulnerable position this way? >> sreenivasan: one of the tidbits in your story

they wanted to transmit directly to moscow. >> i mean this report is almost too shocking to be believed. the idea that jared kushner would say to the russians, i need a secure, classified channel in your embassy, knowing, perhaps the russian embassy is undersurveillance. going in and out would raise red flags to say who knows what. it is naive or crazy or deceptive. it is just amazing. the other question is, why now? why is this happening now? >> ken, let's remember, jared kushner is the least experienced person, the least qualified person ever to work in a white house prior to january 20th. now, he's in a competition in this white house with other inexperienced, unqualified people to be in the white house like bannon and a bunch of others. it is conceivable that kushner had no idea that there would be a clear fbi record, they would know exactly who went into a russian embassy or who went into a russian facility, diplomatic facility anywhere in this country. >> a couple things. first of all, if this request was made that he wants to say something to the russians that he doesn't want inl

a lot of people thought i owned office buildings in moscow. i don't have property in russia, and i am in very -- i'm in total compliance in every way. i have to tell you, i file documents, hundreds of pages worth of documents with the federal elections bureau. everyone's seen them. i built a great company. but i'm not involved with russia. i have had dealings over the years where i sold a house to a very wealthy russian many years ago. i had the miss universe pageant, which i owned for quite a while. i had it in moscow a long time ago, but other than that, i have nothing to do with russia. >> one last question on this matter -- >> and i have a certified letter, just so you understand. i'm not just saying that. i've given the letter. i've given the letter to senator lindsey graham. he has the letter and i think frankly, i assume he's going to give the letter out but it says i am not

it is the russian ambassador coming out of that meeting and communicating with moscow about what took place. it's very similar actually to, well, we've seen that in the past, that the communications of the russian ambassador were under surveillance. this actually takes place several weeks before kislyak is recorded in a conversation with michael flynn, a conversation in which flynn discusses sanctions, u.s. sanctions against russia with kislyak, a conversation that leads to flynn losing his job just 24 days into the trump administration. >> and how much do we know about kislyak's reaction to this proposal by jared kushner which would be presumably as shocking to the russian side as it is to us to hear? >> yeah, i mean the way it was characterized to us is that it appeared that the russian ambassador was taken aback by this idea. and it's easy to see why. i mean, for russian officials in the united states, they would probably regard it as highly important to have secure communications back to moscow that are beyond the reach of u.s. surveillance, right? why would they want to bring an

it is the russian ambassador coming out of that meeting and communicating with moscow about what took place. it's very similar actually to, well, we've seen in the past that the communications of the russian ambassador were under surveillance. this actually takes place several weeks before kislyak is recorded in a conversation with michael flynn, a conversation in which flynn discusses sanctions, u.s. sanctions against russia with kislyak. a conversation that leads to flynn losing his job just 24 days into the trump administration. >> and how much do we know about kislyak's reaction to this proposal by jared kushner which would be presumably as shocking to the russian side as it is to us to hear? >> yeah, i mean the way it was characterized to us is that it appeared that the russian ambassador was taken aback by this idea. and it's easy to see why. i mean, for russian officials in the united states, they would probably regard it as highly important to have secure communications back to moscow that are beyond the reach of u.s. surveillance, right? why would they want to bring an americ

chloe arnold, bbc news, moscow.l economy, with the trade route known as the ‘silk road' making the country rich and powerful. it all faded during the twentieth century, but now china's president xi is keen to bring it all back, with a massive infrastructure project known as ‘0ne belt, 0ne road.‘ world leaders are gathered in beijing to hear more about the plan. as was the bbc'sjohn sudworth. this is china's chance to big up its "belt and road" initiative. the organisers say that journalists from around 100 countries are here to cover the event. this is the media centre where they're all based. no—one could accuse president xi jinping of underselling his initiative. in his opening remarks, he called it a "project of the century". state media, of course, have dutifully gone into overdrive... ..chinese propaganda isn't what it used to be. the point of all of this giant, intercontinental infrastructure spending is, it is claimed, quite simple at heart: the promotion of trade for the benefit of all. china, though, quite

this is kislyak calling moscow or communicating with moscow about what happens during this meeting. of course we know pretty well now that kislyak and his communications are under heavy surveillance by the united states. >> we also know -- i mean just a detail that strikes me as important about this meeting, that was a period of time in which lots of people were coming to trump tower and generally coming in the front, and there was a kind of almost like c-span camera in that front lobby where you could basically see the comings and goings. this clearly happened in a way in which kislyak entered the building without being caught on camera, correct? >> yeah. we've spent a lot of reporting energy trying to locate evidence of this visit, and you're right. so it appears in this case, kislyak didn't go through the same front door that so many other people did to meet with this trump team. >> so what is the response from the white house or from the kushner attorneys? >> so a very limited response from the white house on this one. you see in our story there is no comment from the white hous

it's alleged the pair discussed setting up a secret back channel for communications with moscow.allegations are raising eyebrows in washington. this story relates to a meeting that happened on december the 1st or second between the russian ambassador and jared kushner. this is after donald trump has won the election but before he has been sworn in. the trump transition team is meeting with the russian ambassador and supposedly jared kushner is with the russian ambassador and supposedlyjared kushner is meant with the russian ambassador and supposedly jared kushner is meant to have discussed the idea of setting up have discussed the idea of setting upa have discussed the idea of setting up a secret back channel with moscow. this is what is really raising eyebrows, supposedly using secure equipment at a russian diplomatic facility, that is because the russians know they are spied upon by the americans here in the us, they presumably have a special secure way of dealing between the russian embassy here and in moscow when they don't want to be overheard. this is the allegation, that j

the man of one of moscow's top spy. that secret line was never set up. it is not clear in kushner brought it up or suggested by the ambassador. one other thing, reuters reporting that jared kushner failed to disclose his phone calls between the russian ambassador last year. >> meantime, the fbi is also very interested in a data operation that may have helped donald trump to win the white house. that data operation was supervised by jared kushner. so much to pull from this story. brian nobles is in washington and clare is in moscow. >> air force one is in the air, president trump will be back in the united states tonight. what administration officials are saying of these developments involving jared kushner. >> this speaks of the larger message of the white house of these lengthy trips of the president had over seas. the president took few if any questions from reporters. gary comb, the senior economic adviser did take questions from suppo reporters, they were asked by jared kushner and this is how they respond. >> we are not going to comment on jared kus

russian ambassador told moscow kushner wanted secret communications channel with kremlin.eadline may sound like a chance to privately work a presidential aide without the expertise of u.s. intelligence officials. and has noted it was though reportedly kushner's idea, ambassador kislyak reporting to his superiors kushner made the proposal at a meeting at trump tower according to intercepts of russian communications reviewed by u.s. officials. kislyak said kushner suggested using russian diplomatic facilities in the u.s. for the communications. to the second scoop which landed at 7:03 p.m.. the senate intelligence committee has asked president trump's political organization to gather and produce all russia-related documents, e-mails and phone records going back to his campaign's launch, according to two people briefed on the request. the senate investigation is widening beyond individual aides to the campaign's paper trail. is that bad for trump that it widens to the larger campaign? and if you want to look at the politics that interplay with the oversight, why are senate re

a proposal that would have carried security risks for moscow as well as the trump team. there is thinking outside the box and then there's thinking outside planet earth. which may explain the next piece of this story which, if you want a spoiler, is also not exactly good news for jared kushner. quote, people familiar with the matter say the fbi now considers that encounter as well as another meeting kushner had with a russian banker, to be of investigative interest. investigative interest. we will dig into what that means in a moment. we have one of the authors of this piece here tonight. there's also context for this new development. nine days before the inauguration, the t" also reported on a strange meeting that took place in the seychelles, remote islands in the indian ocean. eric prince, you may recall is the founder of blackwater, allegedly was presenting himself as an unofficial envoy for president-elect trump and he was there to meet with a russian close to putin. that meeting arranged by the united arab emirates. the purpose was reportedly to establish, yes, a b

russian ambassador told moscow kushner wanted secret communications channel with kremlin.he headline may sound like a foreign government's dream, a chance to privately work a presidential aide without the expertise of u.s. intelligence officials. and has noted it was though reportedly kushner's idea. ambassador kislyak reporting to his superiors, kushner made the proposal at a meeting at trump tower according to intercepts of russian communications reviewed by u.s. officials. kislyak said kushner suggested using russian diplomatic facilities in the u.s. for the communications. now to the second scoop which landed at 7:03 p.m.. the senate intelligence committee has asked president trump's political organization to gather and produce all russia-related documents, e-mails and phone records going back to his campaign's launch in june 2015, according to two people briefed on the request. the senate investigation is widening beyond individual aides to the campaign's paper trail. is that bad for trump that it widens to the larger campaign? and if you want to look at the politics

all the talk in the official moscow or close to official moscow is how quick can we get them to meetause hopefully the same thing will happen. trump will feel some kind of warm personal connection and flip 180 degrees his previous policy stance. he'll decide he doesn't want to label him a kurns ea manipulator and maybe he'll unilaterally lift sanctions and lift himself from the internal political mess where they're holding him down. as matthew correctly pointed out, it was not in the white house readout that they agreed to meet and further more if you look at the kremlin readout, it just says they talked about maybe meeting on the sidelines of the g20 summit in july in germany. and everything i was hearing from moscow was we got to get this meeting in before july. have that real chemical connection and that's not going to happen. his already short attention span is going to be pulled in too many directions. it's unclear how much an impact this will have. >> it makes you wonder where this relationship is with tween putin and the united states. because we're so far 103 days into trump'

steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. a look nowadays other news. -- a look now at the day's other news. the u.s. military says more than 100 civilians in the iraqi city of mosul were killed during a u.s. bomb strike in march. an investigation confirmed that the airstrike inadvertently triggered a secondary explosion of i.s. explosives that led to the collapse of the building. china has issued a stern warning to the united states after one of its warships sailed within 12 nautical miles of an island in the south china sea. it passed close to an artificial island built by the chinese in disputed waters. china's foreign ministry spokesman said the move was a mistake and could risk disrupting negotiations over the area. the brazilian president michel temer has recalled troops less than 24 hours after they were deployed in the capital, brasilia, to protect official buildings. he initially ordered the deployment until the end of the month, after protesters smashed their way into government ministries on wednesday during a demo

in moscow this week, they are queueing for miracles. this is the rib of saint nicholas, the wonder worker, the saint who inspired the legend of santa claus. the rib is on loan from italy after a historic agreement between the pope and the patriarch and these russians believe it has the power to change their lives. my son is not well, tatiana says. brought in the from hospital today because we believe in miracles. what is astonishing about this is that for 70 years, the communists tried to annihilate religion in this country but judging annihilate religion in this country butjudging by these scenes and by the interest in saint nicholas's rib, they failed to destroy the fate of russians. extracting the red from saint nicholas's quipped in italy was a delicate operation. the fragments of bone had lain here for more than 900 years. the rib was placed in goldeneye can flow into moscow amid pomp and prayer and burning incense. orthodox priests carried the casket into the cathedral of christ the saviour. and it is drawing russians here like a

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talk to anybody in the russian embassy, get back to moscow very securely. >> this is jared kushner going rogue. >> you have a pattern of senior trump officials concealing conversations with russian spies. >> why are all these guys doing this, are they doing it to protect themselves or to protect trump? >> i have a feeling that jared is going to do a great job. he is going to do a great job. >>> well, up and at them on saturday morning. i am christi paul. >> victor blackwell. new reporting in "the washington post," that jared kushner proposed setting up a secret means of communicating with the kremlin. >> post reports requests came from intercepts of conversations between the russian ambassador to the united states and moscow. but three people with knowledge of the discussion tell "new york times" that the line was meant to be used to discuss strategy in syria and on policy issues. >> the post reports he made a proposal to kislyak during a december meeting at trump tower to use russian diplomatic facilities to shield preinauguration discussions, according to u.s. officials. here's what "t

from moscow, chloe arnold reports.nded a protest before. but a ruling that their homes were to be bulldozed has made them angry. and confused. the russian president, vladimir putin, has backed a bill that the city mayor wants to replace the prefabricated buildings with modern homes. but it is not yet clear whether people to be moved will be rehoused in the same area or what the size of the new flat they will receive will be. the blocks, never more than five stories high, so never more than five stories high, so they would never need a left, we re so they would never need a left, were hastily put up in the 1950s and 19605 were hastily put up in the 1950s and 1960s to ease the housing crisis. most were not designed to last for more than 25 years. they are now crumbling and in bad repair, and moscow's mayor, sergei sobyanin, says there will be taken down in favour of modern high—rise homes. thousands of homeowners have gathered in moscow know what happens when their houses demolished. they know their buildings are to be t

and close adviser jared kushner reportedly wanted to set up a secret line of communications with moscow that bypassed normal diplomatic channels and this was well before mr. trump took office. >> this new story coming from the "washington post" on and "new york times" adding that the back channel was intended to discuss strategy in sear xwra a syria and other matters. more from elise labott. >> reporter: they discussed a proposal by president trump's son-in-law to russia's ambassador to the u.s. to create a secret communications channel between the trump transition and the chemical rin tkremlin. the post reported kushner made the proposal to kislyak during an early december meeting at trump tower to use russian diplomatic facilities to shield their pre-inauguration discussions according to u.s. officials. cnn previously reported the two men met as part of an effort to create a back channel to russian president vladimir putin. the white house did not comment on the report. these revelations come as the fbi probably of russian interference in the 2016 president shaial election inclu looki

you have to remember this is not the candidate moscow wanted.cois fillon, who was defeated in the first round of the presidential election. nonetheless, this was an attempt macron andnces with the reality is the differences between france and russia on key issues, syria and ukraine, that this was always going to be difficult. matt: why did putin go? it was a late scheduled meeting, he didn't have to show up, right? henry: it was an opportunity for try and establish some personal chemistry. i think that is the way he looked at it. you mentioned they exchanged barbs at the conference, that is true. if you look at putin's regular behavior, he was quite subdued. he kept a lid on himself and avoided open confrontation. he was trying his best to establish some relationship with macron. matt: thanks, politics and international news reporter henry meyer out of moscow. principal russia analyst, thank you for your time this morning. why do think an important -- a relationship with macron is important to vladimir putin? hasraditionally, france been -- not

i want to turn to clara sebastian now in moscow. i'm curios to what the relation with jared report requesting the reporting about the secret line of communication that had been suggested by jared kushner. what's russia saying about all this? >> well, anna, it's interesting we have no overt or denial about whether that's true. we do have a comment from the russia's foreign minister the spokeswoman responding to our question by text reporting quote, internal political squabbles. reflecting the since here in moscow the whole issue is being used to try to discredit him. and the sense of those squabbles russia has consistently tried to paint anything coming out of russia as a political chaos. we are getting a sense the level of ex sas ber ration is growing. warning t warning the media not to spread lies about the russian ambassador. a frustrating episode for the russian government here. another blow to the hopes this relationship could be on a path to improvement. anna. >> understand russia is denying this report but if it is true could

he's already accused moscow of interfering with the french election. mr putin insisted any claim of russian meddling was nonsense. from paris, lucy williamson. despite the sweltering weather, this meeting held a touch of frost from the start. at the entrance to france's versailles palace, the two leaders greeted each other with brief handshakes and small, grim smiles. two hours later after their first meeting, the mood was, if anything, even cooler. france and russia have backed different groups in the syrian conflict. mr macron said while france didn't want to destabilise the syrian state, there are red lines that must not be crossed. translation: i stressed again in my meeting with president putin ourfirm objection. there's a very clear line that exists on our part and that's the use of chemical weapons by whoever it may be. the use of chemical weapons will be the object of immediate retaliation on the part of the french. the two leaders are also divided on the situation in ukraine, with the russian president condemning the sanctions imposed on his c

told moscow that jared kushner wanted a secret communications channel with the kremlin.nc in wanting jared's security clearance to be suspended? >> well, i think this should really raise a lot of concern and i think the sort of media around this not overblown in the sense that you have republicans and democrats coming out and saying wait a minute, that's problematic. we need to get to the bottom of what was going on. there needs to be an investigation, an answering of the obvious questions that are arising, but again, to me, what's worrying me are the patterns we're seeing. one is this administration's not talking about our values, closing up to authoritarian leaders and the other pattern we have the just this continuous drum beat of inappropriate contact. >> but senator with in the meantime, while there's been investigation, should jared kushner's security clarence be revoked or suspended? >> again, i think we need to first get to the bottom of it. he need to answer for what's happening at the time. it raises serious concerns for me. that could be a potential outcome th

put aside the other 18 contacts with moscow. this one incident requires jared kushner and his staff to have their clearances pulled right now and have the fbi decent on them and determine whether this is hostile intelligence in the white house one step from the president. >> there you have it how serious is this in your eyes, if true? >> i think it really depends on the underlying conduct by jared. what he was talking about with the russians. if he was trying to engage in normal diplomacy and a preinauguration diplomacy, there could be a rational explanation for this. the fact is that curious is that we don't know why he would have to use a russian diplomatic facility to have that conversation. i can't think of any real good reason for that. i worked on the intelligence transition in 2008 where we handled all of the incoming diplomacy to the new obama team and never remember a circumstance where someone who came in said i need a secret communication with a foreign government and i need to shield it somehow from the existing team

and moscow even on matters of mutual interest. as i expected, he denied russia was doing anything to influence our election claim moscow is a traditional target of blame for such activities. he said moscow is prepared to work with whatever candidate wins the election. when i repeated my warning he said he would inform president putin of my charge. i believe i was the first american to brace the russians on this matter. in the gang of 8 process we kept congress apprised of these issues. again in consultation with the white house, i personally briefed the full details of our understanding of russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership, specifically senators harry reid, mitch mcconne, dianne feinstein and richard rr,nd to representatives paul ryan, nancy pelosi, devin nunes and adam schiff between 11 august and 6 september. i provided the same briefing to each of the gang of eight members. given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counterintelligence case involving an ongoing russian effort

and a year, in 2015, he went to moscow. had dinner at a fancy russian television-sponsored dinner and putin was at his table. >> that's what i'm saying. i don't think -- if this is a mistake by mike flynn, it's hard to imagine it happens because mike flynn doesn't understand how these things work. >> of course he understands. >> mike flynn would seem to be going along with this perhaps on purpose. >> professor dershowitz, if this reporting in "the washington post" is true, does this point, and you are an expert, to some evidence of collusion? >> well, evidence of collusion is not a crime. even collusion is not a crime. this is another example of a political bombshell that doesn't rise to the level of criminal conduct. and special counsel is supposed to be investigating only criminal conduct. they're not supposed to be investigating evil doing or bad politics or things that would incline you not to vote for trump's re-election. they're supposed to look for evidence of criminal conduct or violation of federal criminal statute

tim: steve rosenberg in moscow. for more on the meeting in the phone call between the u.s.nd have beenesidents, i speaking to the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine who is now at the brookings institution. let's talk about the phone call to president trump. it is not clear if the syrian air were mentioned, but presumably this is building on that. >> secretary tillerson was in moscow after the airstrikes. it looks like this phone call was on a higher level, talking about a joint interest of peace in syria. below that, what does that mean for assad or isis? that is where differences emerge. tim: and on bully been rejected by tehray? >> having someone there, that would be a positive step. we had the local ambassador present. tim: when it comes to the first face-to-face meeting, many were speculating this would have happened by now. it looks like it will happen at the g 20? >> that would be the logical venue. it will have president trump and president putin in germany. that would be the logical place for a first meeting to test the waters and see if they can do things in the con

really have to wonder how cordial it was given that days before the french election mr macron accused moscowg in his poll. at a tense press conference, vladimir putin insisted any implication of russian meddling was rubbish. from paris, lucy williamson reports. despite the sweltering weather, this meeting held a touch of frost from the start. at the entrance to france's versailles palace, the two leaders greeted each other with brief handshakes and small grin smiles. two hours later after their first meeting, the mood was, if anything, even cooler. france and russia have backed different groups in the syrian conflict. emmanuel macron said that while france did not want to destabilise the syrian state they were red lines that must not be crossed. i stress in my meeting with president putin are firm rejection there is a clear red line that exist on our part, the use of chemical weapons by whoever it may be. the use of chemical weapons will be the object of immediate retaliation on the part of the french. the two leaders are also divided over the situation in ukraine with the russian president

lawmakers -- former director of intelligence warns that moscow will try to interfere again.e will get the latest live from washington. and be freed schoolgirls try to pick up the pieces after being held captive for three years by boko haram militants. ♪ brent: i'm burned off. it is good to have you with us. -- i am brent goff. emmanuel macron is stepping aside from leadership of the political movement that he founded a little over a year ago. a spokesman also saying the organization will be changing its name, which means the republic on the move. macron has promised to overcome divisions and to unite the country. reporter: emmanuel macron's first day as president elect. he made an appearance alongside outgoing president francois hollande outside a ceremony commemorating the end of world war ii. he will be sworn in as france's new leader but his triumph has left voters with mixed feelings. >> i'm quite optimistic. it is a new start, a new chance for france. we can only hope that france seizes this opportunity. >> the campaign was very difficult and harsh. i did not like tam p

and he lives in moscow. where did -- where did this come from? >> he lives in moscow. he had been denied a travel ban to the u.s. for ties with russian mobsters. he had managed to come to the u.s. a few times over the past ten, 15 years. and one of those times was when i met him. back then he was considered russia's richest oligarch once again connected closely with vladimir putin. has real estate deals here in the country and around the world and is sort of entangled in a variety of different businesses. but one of the links is to paul manafort. and to his ties with the help of the ukrainian election. and he says that he has things that he wants to say to clear the air. but he wants to get immunity from the u.s. congress. and thus far, congress has said no. >> paul butler, what's the working rule on immunity? don't you wait much later in the process until just about all the water has been squeezed out of the spong? >> yeah, brian, normally immunity would be out of the question for someone like michael flynn because he's a big fish. but if he can deliver even a bigger

how is this playing out in moscow? let's go to cnn's ivan watson. he's in the russian capital. don't think there's been a relating of how this applies to the u.s. can you give us a sense of how the kremlin is reacting to this, being front and center for all of this damaging news for the u.s. president? >> from day one, when the scandal and the allegations started to emerge about possible collusion between the trump campaign and moscow, the kremlin has denied this consistently, saying that this is a political internal affair in the u.s., denying any allegations of hacking in the november 2016 election. and also, going further, one step further, to claim this is evidence of an anti-russian conspiracy in the u.s. more recently, russian president vladimir putin said that this was political schizophrenia taking place in the u.s. it is worth noting that the russian and the russian -- heavily kremlin-influenced media, saw trump as a potential positive figure for russian/u.s. relations. it lavished him with a lot of positive coverage. that's largely disappeared from the front pages of