you graduated from a technical university yes, i graduated from moscow automotive institute. ve institute, studied at the moscow state academy of automobile tractor engineering, thought that you would become an operator. no, well, you're in the process of learning. i had already started filming then the plantain program was on channel one, and i was a road operator while still participating in the institute. after i finished, i stayed to work in an austrian newspaper and filmed a television and so on, another program, but this world of movie advertising always attracted me. it was all something more interesting some movement another. and here it is slowly. i went there and the last one, probably already 15 years. a little more, maybe continuously connected with the cinema. i know that the climate. well, it took a very long time to find an understudy. well, you appeared completely passed. tell me how you got there. were you familiar with climate before? ah, i didn’t know klim. although here, too, as it were, then with him, when they talked, it turned out. so i left the psyllium