once again confirm the criteria that were formulated back in the 18th year, about what is the moscow churchch that has its center in the aggressor state and is the language of the statute of the russian orthodox church, a structural division of this moscow church, and so far, unfortunately, in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, we do not see consideration of this issue, we will ask this question. at the conciliatory council, because it is a little secret that the verkhovna rada meeting will soon be resumed again, because in our opinion, this question, the question of the banning of the moscow church, should stand there together with the first one, you know, we celebrated yesterday, celebrated embroidery day, and there are also such discussions that they say that not everything that is embroidered is embroidery, you know, but we are so calm about it, because, well, there for a couple of years, we weren’t there three years ago... we looked at those braids that president zelensky wore, and now he’s gone out in a normal embroidered dress, well, it takes time, it takes a little time for people to un

this moscow fsb church, it is a threat to national security, as evidenced by numerous criminal cases its leaders, and generally a direct connection with moscow. in fact, we know that according to the latest sociological data, almost 2/3 of ukrainians are in favor of the immediate ban of the russian orthodox church and all its structures in ukraine, and even the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe recently called on all states. to consider patriarch kirill's roc and its structures as structures of putin's regime, which is carrying out aggression against ukraine. therefore, the problem is that although the law banning the russian orthodox church and, in fact, restricting the activities of those religious organizations in ukraine that do not break connection with moscow, this law has long been prepared for the second reading, however. in fact, the monomajority, the leadership of the monomajority blocked its consideration in the parliament, already about two months soon , as the law prepared for the second reading by the committee was unanimously approved by the humanitarian c

their choice, the majority of which have actually already accepted it, the transition from the moscow churche russian church, therefore a completely democratic and completely calm bill, in which there is no, you know, as some say, that there is persecution of religion or freedom, no, this is absolutely not about this law mrs. yulia, but let's talk about those churches, about those communities that are there, in which they have not converted to the orthodox church of ukraine, there are priests, here is the community, there is a church, there is a uocp priest, the law is being passed, he says, there, i don't want what will happen, he will be fired there this post and they will send a priest from the orthodox church in... the country, but how will this simply happen in practice? in practice, the community decides, in fact, you understand, most of the property, most of the churches belong to the communities, and the community decides if it makes a decision to transition, including due to the fact that the church, let's say, is under the influence of the russian church, then the priest can, he ha

igor, is this caution of stefanchuk motivated in the issue with the moscow church, because this issueas been discussed and debated for so long , and it is clear that the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate has a choice, either to come to the light side, or to remain on... the dark side, and the parliament can push the uocp to do so, but it does not do this, what is the motivation behind this caution, well, the constitutional court can consider any issue or any draft law that has been passed in the last two years regarding violations there or compliance with regulatory norms, and by the way, i don't know where the honorable speaker is confident that the constitutional court would unequivocally... interpret the issue not in favor of the law that would be adopted, but maybe constitutional the court, on the contrary, would say that there are no questions, and it corresponds to the constitution and should actually be implemented in practice, but in this statement, we saw how mr. stefanchuk, you know, is fighting two, well, two of his dishes, on the one hand, purely as the

, interestingly he said that it turns out that for all this time we have almost 9,000 churches of the russian, moscow patriarchate in ukraine, and by 2023 there will be another thousand churches passed over, but now the transition has slowed down dramatically this year, and so those who are already of the moscow patriarchate remain. well, i read that in kherson oblast, for example, on the eve of easter, we can say that four communities switched to the orthodox church of ukraine, how is this process happening in kherson oblast, how familiar are you with this, where will the people of kherson oblast, kherson oblast, go to celebrate easter, tomorrow or today, i don't know what the customs are in kherson here, because they celebrate here, for example, in western ukraine and celebrate on saturday, well, you know, really. there four communities moved, moved, moved, but thousands of communities remain the moscow patriarchate, and unfortunately, it is precisely the kherson region that was occupied, which was occupied, the fury of the occupiers, who saw firsthand the cooperation of the moscow priests, precise

would be very strange, but in this situation, in your opinion, who is responsible for what the moscow church is working still in ukraine? i think that formally, of course, it is primarily a mono majority, because they have the necessary number of votes to vote for it, i think that to some extent political responsibility, well, let's be frank, it is possible somewhere and according to the president of ukraine, in what sense? i understand very well that he has more important tasks, he deals with these issues, defense, diplomacy, aid and so on, but you know, if he had addressed during his regular evening address. would to of the verkhovna rada, as he did on some issues, and i would simply say that dear deputies, i expect, the entire ukrainian people expect that you will eventually bring to a logical conclusion, well, for example, such a story that concerns well, bans are not even the uoc mp, this is an important point, that ’s what this law is, it’s not even called a draft law, it ’s about other certain points, but if you bring this legislative story to a logical conclusion, then i think that t

is still working, the ukrainian ocu church is working and received tomos, but a lot of people go to moscowhe church now an artificial division has begun, who is in the army, who is evading, who is not evading, that is, these lines of division were still there, they remain in ukraine, and the sooner we overcome them all together, we have not overcome - these divisions, it is clear that people who live in the south and east of ukraine, even after moving to europe, speak the ukrainian language, and the poles there or the germans do not understand how the ukrainians came, they speak russian , that is, we have... there are still a lot of issues to be worked out for of becoming a single strong nation, but the basis of this single strong nation nation is the armed forces of ukraine, this is the structure that united russian-speaking, ukrainian-speaking people from the east, south, and west, and this is the structure that is now trying to sew, well, as zelensky once said that i want ukraine to be stitched together, he... failed as a politician, it succeeded, well, nothing new on this dvdpera plane

mykhailo, a witness, we started collecting signatures for our own. voting for the ban of the moscow churchpean solidarity, that almost the entire homeland, other factions put their signatures, and as soon as enough signatures are collected, i.e. more than 226, we have the assurance of the chairman of the verkhovna rada that this issue will be put on the agenda and will finally be put point in the existence of the russian church in ukraine. thank you, mr. rostislav, mr. mykhailo, but with the beginning of the war, the parliament lost its subjectivity, in my humble opinion, because we see, actually, only the results of some votes, journalists were not allowed to the sidelines of the verkhovna rada for a long time, the monomajority demonstrates the majority together with the former opz and other deputies who join the voting, so what happened today... and your insistence to include two important issues on the agenda and that that stefanchuk still held a meeting. council that what this means for the political life of ukraine is the restoration or the beginning of the restoration of the subjecti

is located on the territory of this now garrison church, which a year ago still belonged to the moscow church itself, during the year a lot of changes took place, of course the people who started going to this church changed, and the situation is extremely has changed, there is a ukrainian language, there is... like fundraising for the ukrainian army, unfortunately, they cannot boast of the same in the transcarpathian region, in the chernivtsi region, and in those regions where there is still a very large lobbying of this church, i even i will be honest, and many people will support me here, that when we started collecting the signatures of people's deputies, i personally also went with a signature sheet, among non-faction deputies, it is a great sadness and... sorrow, the people's elected representatives who, such as their constituencies in the occupation, or, for example, they represent the territories of chernivtsi oblast, zakarpattia oblast, and kharkiv oblast, where, absolutely, it is very difficult to talk to them, they are not ready, so there must first be political will here, and from

story, and last year we as a faction of european solidarity submitted a draft decision to ban the moscow churchof zaporizhzhia, and of course what happened was that it was not supported by the city authorities, and when the city authorities the government in the form of the former secretary of the city council there last year, and then what happened, they submitted, well , let it be a good decision, yes, but they simply submitted this decision from themselves, and that's all after all, then last year the city council still made a decision to ban the moscow church on the territory of the city of zaporizhzhia and break up its land structures, but they are silent and inactive, because in kyiv, for example, we watched these provocations around three mobsters, who were illegally built on the ruins of the tithe church and supported it. nationally on federal channels in moscow, that is, we saw that in kyiv they are not afraid to go out on their shares, in zaporizhzhia it is quiet, yes yes, well within the limits of their activities, within the limits there they somewhat they carry out, yes, but withou

even a conclusion of the committee, which includes representatives of the church's single majority , well, when is that? in moscowshna church will be about voted in the second reading, stefanchuk can say something else when he puts hops on the agenda, the prepared bill has been kicked out in what month in a row? first, there must be political will, and first of all , the political will of the president of ukraine, who communicates with the servants of the people faction, and this... political will should have been there a long time ago, because this is a matter of national security, we must put an absolute end to this and you know, also respect society and respect our defenders who fight for independent ukraine, where there is no moscow fsb network in our country, and that is why we were promised this, they promised the next meeting to start considering the amendments, we are ready to defend our amendments, but there the vast majority of opzh amendments, unfortunately, but okay, the procedure must be followed, and we have not pushed to the point that in the near future this issue will be in the session hall, we w

which call themselves or position themselves as or act as churches of the moscow patriarchate, and thereay be abbots of these churches, who may also be mentioned by kirill, i simply do not know, i am asking whether this is the case and whether it could lead to some different actions, because of course, you know, the moscow language and the moscow church are already, as they say, at the throat of some people, and for some it's fine, mr. vasyl, that's the topic of today in our country. main moscow's pipluka, he received suspicion from the sbu for inciting religious enmity, so now we are watching whether we will proceed, he was the main one, only cyril was praised, and he was already known for his and pro-russian statements on several occasions, even you know, there was a situation , when a rocket hit the house that was located opposite the moscow church where he holds services, where people died in this... house, and when he was asked to comment and say that it was russian aggression, he stated, that he is not an expert in ballistics, that's why i didn't see any statements from the moscow

moscow. nikolai derzhavin is at the microphone. cathedral church of christ the savior in the city the easter service here, in the main church of the russian orthodox church, will be performed by his holiness, the most holy patriarch of moscow of all rusiri. they will serve him vicar bishops, clergy of the cathedral of christ the savior and the capital's clergy. and you and i have the opportunity, thanks to the live broadcast, to participate in this service, together with the patriarch to pray and glorify the risen lord, to contemplate the beauty and grandeur of the easter celebration. according to established tradition, before the start of the service. with a pastoral word, the primate of the russian orthodox church addresses all of you, dear tv viewers, from the altar of the cathedral of christ the savior. dear brothers and sisters, on the eve of the celebration of st. easter, according to tradition, i address you from the altar of the cathedral of christ the savior. i would like to express my greetings. we're really getting in. on that holiday, w

well, different actions, because of course, you know, someone and the moscow language and the moscow churchalready, as they say, across the throat, and it's normal for someone. mr. vasyl, this is the topic of today, we have the main moscow pipluka he... was suspected by the sbu for inciting religious enmity, so now we are watching whether the case will go according to this, he was the main one only cyril was glorified, and it was he who was repeatedly known for his and pro-russian statements, even you know, there was a situation when a rocket hit the house, which was located opposite the moscow church, where he conducts services, where people died in this house, and when. .. he was asked to comment and say that it was russian aggression, he stated that he is not an expert in ballistics, that is why i did not see any statements from the moscow patriarchate in general, even to the point of observing some security measures, to wash ours of the ukrainian orthodox church, and as i said before, the metropolitan addressed the faithful and asked them to protect themselves. thank you very much, ms.

society, because it is already being communicated precisely as a draft law on the banning of the moscow churchthis is not in it, it is not. her next day of life will not change, he creates a mechanism for that it would be possible to ban it in court, and this is exactly the right way, although it is a long way, because in the event that it would be otherwise, then in court it would be possible to issue such decisions, and we would also through the european court of human rights and would prove that in this way we do not violate the right to freedom of conscience and citizens and, accordingly, we do not persecute on the basis of religion, therefore this bill is... only the beginning of the judicial path, and therefore politically it will not give an effect here and now, on the contrary, even its adoption may cause a certain wave disappointment, because the next day will not be what people expect from the bill, but it cannot deliver, but now its passage can be used by our enemies of the united states, as the election campaign enters its final phase and we remember how the thesis about and how mu

it was also about the church, the moscow church in ukraine. but let's take turns. marta and i were just talking about creating a tc. dedicated to fortifications, therefore, please remind me of the course of events, and how intense the discussions were in the plenary hall, well, look, if really briefly, because... and yesterday we already talked a lot about yesterday, the very first conclusion, i would very much not like this to happen again in the future, namely, that such extremely urgently needed draft laws, which should be on the agenda by default, so that they, excuse me, get caught up in certain ways or by blocking the rostrum or collecting signatures, well, we understand , that this eh... is actually a very bad story for the way the parliament looks, what actually happened when the sittings started at noon, immediately many of the deputies offered to do everything possible so that we create the tsk, which will fully consider who builds these structures, how they fulfill their duties, who is responsible for this? who actually says where exactly to dig, the act

out with appropriate posters, people's deputies, yes, well, on the posters it is written, the moscow churchls, fortifications are protection, fortifications are protection of kharkiv, sumy, zaporizhzhia and every soldier. well, as zheleznyak reported, first a break was announced in the session of the parliament, and then the session was closed altogether, well, that's how things are today, well, although it would seem, well, that they are quite reasonable. requirements that could be considered, debated, and so on. ivan krychevskyi, a military expert, defense-express should appear on our air every minute, we will talk about the situation with our military resources, with our anti-aircraft defense and not only, mr. ivan, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, have a good day. well, look, germany says that it has already collected almost a billion euros to strengthen ukrainian air defense. their minister for... zone affairs is in kyiv today on a visit, and we actually remember that it was anna lena berbok who initiated the formation of such a coalition, and we understand t

church of ukraine. well , it is strange, of course, that people pray for hail moscow, in the church, which, as it were, d the great reigning city of moscow, the city of the whole, all the cities, the entire russian land from destruction, well, i just don’t understand how it is possible under the bombs and rockets that almost attack zaporozhye every day, that’s it to pronounce in the church, well, it's just that... this is not a thought, it's if in synagogues, for example, now the rabbis would suddenly start praying for, i don't know, for the holocaust, for hitler, well, well, nonsense . it was a very revealing moment when a rocket hit a house in zaporizhzhia, which was right across from the moskovskii church of the patriarchate, and where this luka actually conducts services, and people died there, that, well , floors were demolished there, and when the community... expected some comments and directly asked luka, well, actually, comment that this is russia, that this is the country of the aggressor, you know what he said, he said that he is not an expert in ballistics, and even a dog suffered damage to

churches in kharkiv, where are they, because when they say that there is persecution against the moscow churchrkiv everything is the opposite, in kharkiv the ukrainian church is discriminated against, there is not a single one in the center, there is not a single ukrainian parish, all are only from moscow, and this, you know, is a disguise, this is an imitation, when the uoc is written on the church the ukrainian orthodox church, even some of the saleswomen from the kiosks are already asking me if i want them for easter, saints, i used to go to this church, i say, well, it’s the ukrainian orthodox church, but it’s written in ukrainian, and this moment, again, during passover during christmas arises, why there is no center in kharkiv not a single ukrainian church, why only russian ones, and please tell me, but when s-300 missiles fall from belgorod or guided aerial bombs from russia, moscow priests in kharkiv cross. are they singing or singing hallelujah, cyril? and they are just silent, they are silent at all, they don’t talk about it, and it is not clear that there, although there were flight

when... people, let's say, went to the russian orthodox church, well ukrainian the orthodox church of the moscowchate, because it is visible, people there wear headscarves, if a girl, say, or a woman is wearing trousers, then she also imposes this headscarf, because it was decided there, well, in the orthodox church in ukraine, this has never been done was, and it can be seen, but these people come to mykhailivskaya zolotoverkhia and there are no problems, by the way , history shows that when i passed by the moscow patriarchate of the church in podil, there were almost no people there on easter, and mykhailivskyi was crowded, so... then it's not a problem for people, they came, they made a mistake, the candle was put, listened to, changed, i don't know, that's all, there are no questions, and here only the most important thing, in your opinion, is the last question, in your opinion, which should be a turning point for this to be put to a vote, so that this law is voted on in the second reading and as a whole, the question is then when the president will sign it, we know that the president could

the near future, after a series of parliamentary procedures, we want to pass a law banning the moscow church. despite... or another religious organization, and not directly prohibit it. european human rights activists also opposed the initiative, saying that it does not meet any of the criteria of the venice commission, since it provides for collective punishment of the church, its clergy and parishioners, and also violates the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of a religious organization. even in the usa they suddenly became concerned. the us congress is worried that kiev’s actions, for example, the issue of financing kiev is not being considered as quickly as we would like, members of congress have doubts about the new law that will close a number of churches in ukraine, republicans, who are largely from -they don’t want to supply ukraine with dollars for this. the members of the uoc themselves - those who, without any laws, are already suffering from the repressive machine of kiev, called for prayers for the deputies to come to their senses. for the last two of the yea

and 63% of the surveyed ukrainians, i.e. well , significantly more than half believe that the moscow churchd be completely banned in ukraine, on the other hand, 20% advocate for the establishment of state control and supervision, such and such information, we will talk about the fact that after easter... people continued to go to the churches of the moscow patriarchate, where they openly pray for the man who blesses, as he says, the holy war of russia against ukraine, patriarch kirill, better known as kirill gundyaev, or patriarch peril, as he is not yet called, and this, and this continues, again in the third year of full-scale war and in the 13th year of russia's war against ukraine. what kind of gunpowder is there now, what is the current situation in the verkhovna rada with consideration of that very important draft law. yes and is it possible resorting to other actions regarding the prohibition of organizations that openly work in the interests of the enemy, we see this in those cases that are initiated against church leaders of this church and even in other preventive measures that ar

ukraine and 63% of ukrainians surveyed, that is, significantly more than half believe that the moscow churchould be completely banned, on the other hand, 20% are in favor of establishing of state control and supervision, here is such and such information, we will talk about the fact that after easter, people continued to go to the churches of the moscow patriarchate, where they openly pray for a person who... blesses, as he says, the holy war of russia against ukraine, patriarch kirill, better known as kirill gundyaev, patriarch peril, as he is not yet called, and this, and this continues, again in the third year of a full-scale war and in the 13th year of russia's war against ukraine, and what kind of gunpowder is there now there is, what is the situation now in the verkhovna rada, with consideration of that very important draft law, and whether it is possible to take other actions regarding the prohibition of the organization. who are openly working in the interests of the enemy, and we see this in the cases that are initiated against the church leaders of this church and even in other pre

precisely because of this misalliance became a law about the church, but i i hope that we will press on this situation anyway, because this moscowraine creates no less threats to the security of the state than the external enemy today on the front line iryna, this is an important topic, for an individual, though , and discussion, i want to understand about this commission how effective it is in general, the first report was announced, which will be in six months, the issue with fortifications, the issue with the distribution of uavs, it is already needed there for yesterday, conditionally speaking, i read such accusations that fortifications in general they weren't prepared there, well, it's very serious, then... because, relatively speaking, other settlements will be next in line after vovchansk, and this worries the military who are directly there, and it's their safety, their lives, and of course , in general, all ukrainians, because a lot of money is allocated for this, when there will be intermediate results of this work, what six months to wait and whether this is an effective reaction, let's say, to such urgent and import

ukrainian, uh, they are trying to be open and just changed their colors, but still, this is a moscow churche, they behave like that now, the churches are gradually moving and moving more... in odesa region, therefore that the population of odesa is more of a ukrainian-speaking region, and the place was more russian-speaking and more corrupt, you talked about this transformation and repainted, but look, these are very different things when repainted, when transformation, in this case kivalov, who is there somewhere he, his little palace was destroyed, he was even injured by a splinter, what do you think, in one word , did he repaint? i think so. clear. we thank you. serhii dmytrievtami, chaplain of the military institute of taras shevchenko national university. now a short pause. then ether will continue the news. stay with us to be the first to know the most important things. petrol trimmers are so heavy, loud and uncomfortable. and so i want to have a beautiful, well-kept plot. there is a solution. garden kors trimmers from unpack tv, order now at a special price, only from uah 999. trimme

this week we witnessed how the chapel of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate near foundations of the tithe church was dismantled, and it all happened at the expense of caring citizens, people's deputy of ukraine, mykola knyazhytskyi. who is the author of the bill on banning russian churches in ukraine, emphasized the great public demand to get rid of russia's influence through kremlin-affiliated religious organizations, i quote mr. knyazhytskyi. this once again indicates the need for systemic solving problems, because it is necessary at the legislative level to sever the ties of ukrainian religious organizations with well-known moscow offices, which are waging a holy war against ukraine and sanctifying the note. rockets in odesa, kharkiv, lviv and many other cities, this issue has already matured, mykola knyazhytskyi speaks absolutely accurately and aptly about the influence of the russian church in ukraine, because it is a large enough network in ukraine, and this network can be at any moment used by the kremlin to destabilize the situation in ukraine, and the lon

for me , in the 14th year, it was a matter of principle to leave the moscow church, because this is arom the 14th year blessed killing people, and if you belong to this church, you... are also involved in the murder, so you have to to honestly say to myself that this church is not a church, and it is not an orthodox church, because by the 14th year we hoped when we were in the moscow patriarchate that we would unite or something would change, but these changes did not happen, after the 14th year i kept in touch with some priests who had doubts, but with the detention of tomos, these news, they were gradually lost, and only... after the 22nd year in the kherson region, the priests of the moscow patriarchate, who were originally from the west of ukraine and survived the occupation, they joined the orthodox church of ukraine and told me and others , that they will no longer serve, and they told me the following words that if they had all crossed over in the 14th year, then maybe the war... would have ended, because one of the propaganda narratives is that they are waging such a holy war

the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopt its vote in the second. reading the bill on activity of the moscow churchraine, as mykola knyazhytskyi, one of the initiators of the ban on the russian orthodox church in ukraine in filia, says that there is an influential group of sympathizers of the russian church in the parliament, and they are doing everything to prevent this bill from being passed. let's listen to what knyazhytsky said. the law in no way limits the freedom of religion, only. demands to sever ties with the church, which calls for the destruction of all of us and has declared a holy war on us, because of that it is no longer a church, but just such a satanic putin sect, and the law is only that suggests that we simply break these ties, then they will be able to serve absolutely peacefully, eh, but they are strong, and the fact that the law is not passed indicates that within ukrainian society, if on our borders our enemies of ukrainian society are politicians, who let them in, open the door for them and don't let them get out of that door. and these politicians do not allow it to be put

with the katsaps, but i didn't hear it. people that anthem, that's it, but yesterday several moscow churchesscow patriarchate were beaten, yes, and this is actually in the territory under the control everything was happening in kyiv, that is, here we are, yes, here, that is, now i have such a general picture here, and it actually looks very lonely, sad, because it is also connected with history, when the son of a priest from a bare pier, a priest of the uoc . mp, yes, it is important to clarify here, he was charged with suspicion for what, because he is simply agitating directly for joining russia, for russia, and all that you... say so, paints the village in the russian tricolor, this is widespread a phenomenon among clerics, among people of spiritual rank, because he is not just the son of a priest, he is also he is also a subdeacon of the metropolitan of kherson and tavriysk, that is, a person who also has a spiritual status, well, i can't say that it is widespread, but as of now, in my opinion, it is somewhere 50 to 50, that is. er, the ukrainian patriarchate, the moscow patriarchate, i

do not make a distinction, for them they are christians, and they do not know whether it is the moscow church or some other, and about these christians being persecuted by russia, and how they package it for specific congressmen, that is a question to which i do not know the answer, well, in the united states there is an american orthodox church, which is recognized by the russian orthodox church as autocephalous, the truth is that no one else recognizes it, practically in world orthodoxy, but this is a whole organization, which again, its representatives can go to congressmen, to representatives of local legislative bodies, talk about all these sufferings, this is a whole church, but the situation, the situation is more complicated , even the evangelical churches that are being persecuted by russia in the occupied territories, they believe that ukraine is persecuting christians, and something must be done about it, because this is the narrative that is being actively promoted and... is used, including, not to give ukraine the support we expect from the united states of america. and in genera

the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopt the bill on actions in the second reading. presence of the moscow church as mykola knyazhytskyi, one of the initiators of the ban on the russian orthodox church in ukraine in filia, says that there is an influential group of sympathizers of the russian church in the parliament, and they are doing everything to prevent this bill from being passed. let's listen to what knyazhytsky said. the law does not in any way limit the freedom of religion, it only requires breaking ties with a church that calls everyone. to destroy us and declared a holy war on us, because of that it is no longer a church, but just such a satanic, putin sect, and the only law i propose is to simply break these ties, then they will be able to serve absolutely peacefully, but they are strong, and the fact that the law is not passed, it shows that within the ukrainian society, if on our borders, within our ukrainian society, there are politicians who let them in, open the door for them and do not let them walk out the door, and these politicians do not allow it to be put to a vote , becaus

and we made a consensus decision that we all support this initiative, the council of churches, including the moscow patriarchate, which is part of the all-ukrainian council of churches, that is, we unanimously supported this decision that... we are against for the aggressor country to use religious organizations for its own purposes, we are talking about this, it is not about a ban, here it is about faith, about a ban on religion and so on, here we are talking only about security, and so that putin does not use in his purposes ukrainian religious organizations, so what happened later, what do you think, why then the deputies themselves started to talk like that. the adoption of this draft law, if it is all about security, we see that certain processes in our country take a long time, i am convinced that over time this law, the draft law will also be adopted as a law, because the process, why is it taking so long, because it was a law was submitted, a draft law from the cabinet of ministers, then the verkhovna rada had up to a dozen more projects... almost every faction in the verkhovna rada develop

the fact is that most people, in principle, unfortunately, do not distinguish between the church of the moscow patriarchate or the church of the kyiv patriarchate or the ecumenical patriarchate, in zaporizhzhia there was a case when one, relatively speaking, father he simply built a building that looks like a church from the outside, and people began to go there, and... he continued to conduct services for them, not being connected to either the moscow or kyiv patriarchate, at that time, let's say so, well, simply because he has it there was business, and everything was fine for people, people began to believe that they should go to easter, consecrate eggs, baptize children there, so what, they began to do it, and at the same time, without understanding where, what and how, they but they don't care, the main thing for them is to go to church, so they will go church of the moscow patriarchate, because there is no other, let's say so. it's as if moskal is doing such cruel lessons, you know, he's already trying that heavenly punishment like this, hitting him in the forehead like this, and in the

odessa, came to moscow, and here, by his holiness the patriarch , i was appointed rector of the moscow church from such people in odessa, in any case, there is no such power and the future of this country as russia decides, as it deems necessary, correct, and of course my position is prayerful. “all of ukraine must be part of russia, only then will we ensure the unfettered existence of our russian orthodox church there, freedom for believers, and let's return her historical appearance to the way she always had, being more often a saint with a part of holy russia. thank you very much, thank you for being with us, but we hope that the church schism in ukraine will end soon, and bright times of unity of faith will definitely come." and for the full conversation with the american official, watch on our social networks, all the best, see you, hello, dear tv viewers, you are watching the triggers lab podcast, its leading psychologist, tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist and psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, is with us. our guest is yulia, hello, yulia, hello, tell us what you came to us with? i came

west the russians are working with the fact that in ukraine, for example, the persecution of the moscow church takes place as if it were a church, and this is manipulation, that is how our partners from the council of europe understand that there is a change of concepts, here the question is about national security, and not about the persecution of some church, or, for example, the same story, which will be maximally under... opening on may 21, it will be a new mass information campaign that ukrainians were taken away , usurped the right to elections, so the enemy is also preparing for this, although we are clearly aware that there cannot be any elections in the occupied and front-line territories, as far as this is also understood by our partners from the council of europe and will fight off another information campaign from the enemy i think ours the partners understand perfectly well that the war brings, let's say, challenges for democracy, in order to ensure human rights, in particular, regarding the right to free elections and the right to freedom of conscience and religious beliefs, but

in fact, even european parliamentarians called on the european union... to ban the ban of the moscow churchn the territory of their states, and actually yes, it is no longer a church, it is an institution that works for the russian state apparatus, we are not talking about some religious structure, we are talking about a propaganda sect, if we can say so, well, part of a large repressive machine, an aggressive machine, which is putin's regime, because on may 7, when the so -called president er... putin was inaugurated, we saw how kirill gundyaev tried to bless putin for many years, i would say, until the end of the century or whatever he says, for many years age, he said, that is, until the end of the age, but lo let's talk about more now issues that concern, in particular, journalists and the information field, because we will start with the decision of the council of the european union. today the council decided to suspend the broadcasting of four more media in the european union, which spread russian propaganda and support an aggressive war against ukraine, these are the voice of europe,