friends, we continue our conversation about vera mukhina, my guests are the founder of the moscow design museumo did these lovely things that are so necessary in everyday life and which, it would seem , so... this style is very, on the one hand , industrial and all built on such a kind of stratified movement, so in this pavilion in particular, everything is like this time is knocked down, knocked down step by step, and the form stretches, as if it was filmed in slow motion, it’s all stratified and at the same time this is the style of holdings. in these corrugated suitcases, in clothes, it manifested itself in all sorts of corrugated corduroys and so on, this is the style of this, well, i don’t know, but the plot was really difficult, because we got it, although we bought a large plot, it was above highway, and therefore the only thing that could be done was to make it very long, firstly, that is, it was 160 there with something meters, very narrow, literally 20 meters wide, it turned into such a suite. sculptors and the best there also participated , such as shadr, who, by the way, also studie

left, another year later year. conversation about vera mukhina, visiting me founder of the moscow design museumr of this museum alexandra sankova and architect, artist yuri avakumov, well , what happens is that this woman, yes, who did these cute things that are so necessary in everyday life and which would seem so far from any general ideology, but this particular woman, probably already to you then, but yuri, let’s move on, she creates this one completely. an amazing project that has become, in general, a symbol, some kind of pinnacle, as it seems to me, of soviet art, soviet thoughts, the soviet spirit, flight, whatever you want to call it, that’s how it all happened in your opinion, well, in general, a lot of things happen for artists thanks to luck, which means it’s a lucky coincidence of circumstances, and more than one thing happened there, happened, in the first, of course, the first person, it was of course boris eofan in this whole story, that is... the author of the soviet pavilion in paris, in a very difficult area a competition was announced and it even seems more than one competit

so we talked about vera ignatievna mukhina, alexandra sankova, director and founder of the moscow design museumnds. capital has one single vital desire, the desire to grow, to create surplus value, to absorb with its constant part the means of production, the largest possible mass of surplus labor, this is a quote from perhaps the most famous work on capitalism. hello, today we have gathered our thoughts about capitalism, its current state, and, i think, many other topics that we let's go out with my today. who - supposedly - came up with a very simple formula that the only goal of business is to earn profit for shareholders, that’s all the social utility, it’s gone, but in reality, of course, we need to move a few more steps earlier, so our great karl can be studied, but he’s a lot formulated interesting things, ilisanovich, you are also an economist by training, also an economist by training, yes, i think that is absolutely correct, knowledge is never superfluous, one cannot relate to... socialism, which will change from country to country, from era to era, this is also clear, that this is a

so, we talked about vera ignatievna mukhina, alexandra sankova, director and founder of the moscow design museumedia manager, entrepreneur, i am vladimir ligoida, we are starting as we started. our karl marx, well, i started, tell me, what do you think , how important is it today to know labor, a couple of sentences from which i just quoted, well , it seems to me that the evolution of knowledge in general in the professional field in which you are engaged is useful to understand , because i am an economist by training, in my 30s the name milton friedman was such an indisputable indisputable name. authority, and a year ago i met with a friend in europe, a professor at a large business school, who said that capitalism is sick, that on the other side, that’s how scientific thought also talks about this, and it’s even known who poisoned it, here’s milton friedman did just this 60 years ago, who supposedly came up with a very simple formula that the only goal of business is to earn profit for shareholders, that’s all the social utility it already has... but in reality, of course, a few more steps are

designs, bright functional clothing and textile accessories. the brand has more than twenty collaborations, including projects with the state tretyakov gallery, the fobergé museum, the russian state library and museums of the moscow is paulina, paulina, nice, alexandra koloshina, founder of a group of textile companies, an expert in the textile industry, manages projects for the restoration of the textile and ornamental heritage of russia. is it true that your main direction in which you are developing is scarves? almost everyone knows us for our scarves, but in fact the brand is developing very widely, we have clothes and accessories. with how did it all begin, what was your first product? the first products were indeed scarves, but there was a design studio that sold drawings, and we learned how to make scarves, selling them to many countries, well, all the drawings and prints that i see now, there’s a huge variety of them, you come up with it yourself, that’s all is done by our studio, our artists, i ’ll show you everything later, look, you can say that you are a trendsetter, yes, because we do a lot of analytics, our drawings become world trends, so look how they then turn into... i don’t know, a backpack, a

with a degree in architecture and design, i even worked in my profession, well, before the war, at the moment i... should have an exhibition at the victory museum in moscowgrad and the purpose of the exhibition was to depict portraits of guys, well , just privates, i just draw, here is a boy sitting and i see him for the first time in my life, i don’t even remember his call name, i just sketched it for the boy of happiness, he he's running around on his phone with this picture to his wife sent, someday maybe his son, his mother will come to the museum and... see her son, who was an ordinary soldier there, you 10 years ago, and you now, what has changed during this time, you have already become a professional military man, no , well, i’m also a military man, yes, i’m not a military man, but i can’t sit at home, nothing has been finished, in general, war itself is such a disgusting and evil word, but it made me who i am, now, probably, it’s in me more humanity, i now evaluate a person, probably more correctly than then, if a person... cannot serve society, why such a person, mothers should raise children with feelings, defend their duty to their homeland,