this is a request, that is, it is not a negotiation with the moscow patriarchate. the moscow patriarchate, as well as moscow political or business structures, should cease to exist in ukraine, and this is the will and desire of the ukrainian people, the ukrainian state, and the will. of ukrainian churches, but if they are ukrainian churches, if they are not connected with the aggressor country, if they really serve god and people, then such churches among themselves should be in dialogue, and this is exactly the kind of dialogue offered by the orthodox church of ukraine. well , look, we understand, nominally, even if the law says that this institution cannot function on the territory of our state, then ideological supporters of the russian peace, they will not go anywhere. in our country, and was there any certain communication between the state and the orthodox church of ukraine in the context of not just, well, if, let's say, make the legislative part of this issue, but also the practical part of this issue, is there any understanding of how work with it? well, l

this canonicity, well, when the patriarch of constantinople actually lived in istanbul and the sultans controlled it, then it was possible to buy, redeem, yes there the moscow were richer than the patriarchs of constantinople, and something could have been done, we remember that they did not have a patriarch since 1700, that they had a right in the synod under peter and so on, so on, so on. in fact, well, for 200 years, 200 years , they didn't have a patriarch there, like what they say there, like what they can hide from us, they have now split with the patriarchate of constantinople , actually becoming schismatics, now they are schismatics, and by no means blame us, but this is history, these are nuances that ordinary people do not understand for... for those people, everything is clear there for of ordinary people, yes, there is a part of the faithful, again , i say that there are 6 to 13% of them in ukraine, in various regions there, well, that is, it is a small layer of the population that is basically useless for anything do, not only that, people like the rule of an older age, who are faithful there, who are for these popes, bishops, who will be forev

sponsors and lobbyists of the moscow patriarchate did not give up.nvolved state structures. the position of the state committee on ethnos is destructive in some moments. of politics and freedom of conscience, which openly overwhelmed the draft law, first surprised, then outraged. the profile committee of the verkhovna rada even adopted a special statement condemning the discrediting of its work. the issue of protection religious rights and freedoms of ukrainian citizens are considered through the prism of national security, which allows to clearly separate and protect the religious freedom and security of ukrainians from the activities of religious organizations associated with the aggressor. it is for this purpose that the preamble of the draft law contains references to article nine and article 11 of the european convention on human rights and the decision of the national security and defense council, which initiated the drafting of the draft law. therefore, the draft law does not in any way interfere in the sphere of a person's religion, but only

so-called, who, i don't know, found themselves somewhere in some otherworldly space between the moscow patriarchatend the reluctance to return to the orthodox church of ukraine, and they have a great desire to create a representative office of the patriarchate of constantinople here, this is yet another orthodox church na na na our head, and this is just such and such... a danger that can hide a significant number of those so-called representatives of the moscow patriarchate who actually use their incomes, you know, what is the difference between the moscow church and the ukrainian one, we have a parish, they have an income, from the income of the money they earn from these people, they dig it out of it is very difficult for ukraine, and actually using this, i can't choose another word as... this component, this is why they are being recruited through their patriarchs there or some hierarchs who fled to russia. mr. viktor, i yesterday i did such an experiment, because at first i heard, then i decided to check, i just logged out of tiktok and in fact you watch it then just as a guest, that is, witho

why did the moscow patriarchate obey and hire an entire lobby network in the usa?ause we, people's deputies, did everything very correctly. in the committee on humanitarian information policy, representatives of various factions. put aside their political differences and together focused on creating a quality document based on government bill 83-71. i would especially like to note the constructive work of the chairman of the committee, nikita poturaev. a lot depended on him, as a representative of the presidential majority, his sharp statements in defense of the parliamentary version of the government document were obviously not liked by everyone at the bank. but i have already said that banning the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine is not a reason for political zeal. but an existential question. so when the moscow patriarchate saw that the deputies were already at the finish line, they decided on them, that is scare us colleagues who are in favor of recommending that the verkhovna rada consider bill number 8371, please vote. kuturaev for. prince

recruiting somewhere, they calculated that votes are being collected for the removal of the moscow patriarchateraine, which probably will be ban, there will be some transition period, so that the church communities could create something new, or merge into the ocu, but who told you that their own, metropolitan bishops from the moscow patriarchate will not gather here and rename it there, take the word moscow, but... filaret will be, oh, i say, lord, this kirill, patriarch kirill, will be remembered in our prayers from now on, yes, there will be a tipa, and mazepa will be anathema, yes, as it was before, here, but in the meantime, in the meantime, our spirituality will be strengthened there, the only thing i worry about is that zelenskyi does not climb over one day saying ukrainian scraps there, because we saw scraps in russian, or rather we didn’t see them, we only heard about them, there are no scraps, starting from the main scrap, the russians don’t throw their own into the war, which was once pronounced bright or crimson, like his that 's right, there are many others there about spirituality

all of us , a huge challenge, several million ukrainians remain under the influence of the moscow patriarchate, the moscow split, this totalitarian sect, efforts must be made to get these orthodox from there and finally unite them into a single church, this is at least a... national security request, in fact, it is really a national security issue, well, briefly about the delegation, the delegation held a meeting with the head of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, the metropolitan of kyiv, onufriy, also held a meeting with metropolitan epiphanius, conducted a meeting with patriarch filaret, from this we can conclude that, in principle, the ecumenical patriarchate and the patriarch of bartholomew... looks at patriarch filaret as a party to the negotiations regarding the unification of the orthodox in ukraine, and the delegation also had a meeting with the head of the ukrainian catholic church, supreme archbishop sviatoslav shevchuk, which, by the way, is also very important, very such an important sign. currently, i understand that the delegation continues its work in kyiv, i understand that t

of moscow, there and other patriarchs, in some holy words, it must be remembered , and if you broke it, then you don't remember it, and that's all, and if... you don't remember it, that's it, you already broke it, or what should be done , to really break what it means to break with russia? well, this is one of the symbolic actions, not to mention cyril and many clergy, including the moscow patriarchate in ukraine does not remember him, but metropolitan onufriy continues to remember him for divine services, but you know, to break with moscow is probably also to break real ties, to get out of real subordination. full, yes, to announce, yes, to break these administrative, canonical and other ties, and, for sure, the most important thing is to single out this moscow patriarchate from within yourself, because you know, sometimes you can declare anything and remain virtually the same, yes, that is you can declare yourself a citizen of independent ukraine, but actually being a post-soviet person or not. behind the soviet union,

will remind you that until recently the ukrainian orthodox church was called the church of the moscow patriarchate. in may of the 22nd year, it abdicated from this prefix of the mp, and having adopted a new statute, announced its independence from... independence, however, in moscow at that time they declared that the unity between maintained by the russian orthodox church and the ukrainian orthodox church, at the beginning of 2023 the state service for ethnopolitics and freedom of conscience, after carrying out a religious examination based on the new statute of the uoc mp, confirmed that there was no real break between this church and the roc proper. i will also add that the security service of ukraine has informed. that since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation , criminal proceedings have been opened against more than a hundred clergymen of the uoc mp, almost 50 of them already reported even about... suspicion, and 26 of them received court sentences. mykyto potoraev, people's deputy, chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on humanitarian and i

security committee, recalled: the orthodox church in the czech republic is subordinate to the moscow patriarchate, which is headed by patriarch kirill, who was included in the sanctions list by the czech government in april 2023. the european union expects kiev to respect freedom of religion sounds incredibly hypocritical, after yesterday 265 deputies of the verkhovna rada out of 298 voted to adopt a law banning canonical orthodox. aimed at the destruction of canonical orthodoxy by any means and the expansion of the deepest, already existing split in ukrainian society, now along religious lines, allegedly representatives of other faiths, in fact servants of the marinate regime, are involved. organized the largest wave of persecution of orthodoxy in modern world history. this flagrant lawlessness is not only spiritual, but secular. you know, at different times there were persecutions of the church, we remember the persecution during godless power in the twenties and thirties, but no one even then issued a law banning it, millions of believers, according to this law, must be left without a true ort

you scan it while we talk, and we will talk about the pro-ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, which is affiliated structure to the russian orthodox church. anatoliy babynskyi, historian, religious scholar, lecturer at the ukrainian catholic university and employee of the uku church history institute is already in touch with us, mr. anatoliy, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations to the viewers of espresso, you know, i will certainly start with the fact that we today, for example, chernihiv oblast was included, and in chernihiv there is a local. er , the secretary of the russian orthodox church, which is called the ukrainian orthodox church, says that we will not change anything, because we are already very the pro-ukrainian church, they say that it is possible that onufriy will even leave the synod of the russian orthodox church, well, this is the maximum they can go to, and here it is simply a question of what we passed, we passed the law, but the law has a letter and a spirit this law itself. we definitely need to change this very russian spirit in this church,

security committee, recalled that the orthodox church in the czech republic is subordinate to the moscow patriarchate, which is headed by patriarch kirill, who was included in the sanctions list by the czech government in april 2023. the european union expects kiev to respect freedom of religion, it sounds unbelievable. hypocritical after yesterday 265 deputies of the verkhovna rada out of 298 voted to adopt a law banning the canonical orthodox church in ukraine. let me remind you, this is the canonical orthodox church, this is true orthodoxy. this truly satanic action, sanctioned by zelensky, aimed at destroying canonical orthodoxy by any means and expanding the deepest, already existing schism. ukrainian society, now on a religious basis, is allegedly connected representatives of other faiths, hoping to serve the marinata regime. the independent organized the largest wave of persecution of orthodoxy in modern world history, this is blatant lawlessness, not only spiritual, but secular, you know, at different times there were persecutions of the church, we remember the persecutions during the godless

narratives, he, here is this deputy , and in addition to all that, he is known for such pro-moscow-patriarchal views and not only views, but it turned out that this person literally a month ago, she became a subdeacon of the uoc mp. and what's more, he expressed at the same time. gratitude to the head of the ukrainian orthodox church onufry and metropolitan agafangel of odessa, a also to everyone who took part in this joyous celebration. this is how he described his ordination, typodiacon or hyperdeacon, how did you hear? ipo, ipo, but it's clear. not to be confused with hippotherapy. sure, sure. okay. well, it would be fun, and it sounds fun, if it wasn't actually so sad. dmytruk has not appeared in the verkhovna rada for a very long time, i will say right away, unfortunately, there were people... who elected him, and this is the biggest problem, and i think that the sbu should finally deal with dmytruk, we should adopt a law on collaborationism and this is to say, and i think that the voted bill will be another help to arrest dmytrouk for co-operationism and for his statements, i think that

conduct your worship as you wish, but i emphasize once again that if they, coming from the moscow patriarchate, do not join the someone else, then they simply turn into, i don't know, a pseudo-orthodox sect, mr. general, simultaneously with the adoption of the law by the ukrainian parliament, the security service of ukraine will inform... that 100 criminal cases against priests or proceedings against priests of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate for during the great war in ukraine was violated on the scale of the country and on the scale of the situation in which we are now, that is, in a war situation, is it a lot or a little? i think that it is not enough, because it is extremely much there is... information that they just didn't have time to implement, here are 100, 100 cases, these are already such blatant facts that simply could not be hidden, and they were documented both by the security service and by citizens who simply saw it on their own eyes, or have heard there, for example, yes, there is some propaganda there, i just want to explain to our citizens that the v

we now have more ocu than the moscow patriarchate.ever, in some oblasts, in particular in my native sumy oblast, the moscow patriarchate prevails, because there in this community, which i am now in, it is north of the diet, and this community, i will tell you honestly, here in andriy derkach's district is only in glukhovo and shostka . one church of the ocu, all the rest is the moscow patriarchate, he simply did not allow anyone to physically open up here, this, well, state traitor andriy derkach, who is a colonel there, to be honest, you are telling me about this, i am really bitter for my family sumshchyn, that's on the people of sumy have a completely different character, that is, and this was shown in the first days of the war, but we knew before, and the revolution of dignity and... the orange revolution did not take place aside, and the student revolution on the grass, a completely different world, i mean , compared there with eastern ukraine, if we take donetsk region or, let's say, luhansk region there, that is, it is a cossac

we quickly do it once or twice like this, yes, but they remain essentially the same as the moscow patriarchatebut it is added that, that is, for ukrainian society, they finally accepted ukraine, society will say, why not immediately cut everyone with an ax and so on, yes, and on the other hand, they have very good lawyers, who, as we see, win court cases, which frees their main propagandists, somehow it happens like this. this is our humane court, and actually, what will happen in their line, they have extremely best propaganda, all the churches put together do not have such propaganda as they do, will there be some kind of directive, how to do, shoot, so on, yes further, to come, but this public will become even more is negatively disposed towards ukraine, and again propaganda will actively work, how many churches in ukraine that are subordinate to the russian orthodox church still remain? er, i don't remember the exact number of communities, er, well, it seems to be somewhere over 800, so there is disagreement about what it is, in us, er, a long, long time ago, the kyiv patriarchate tried to

yes, indeed, in the statute today nothing is said about the moscow patriarchate, but everything is veiledpoint, that the ukrainian orthodox church is governed by the charter of patriarch oleksiy of the year 90, in this charter it is said that through it it is connected with through the russian orthodox church, it is connected with other local churches, where, as a matter of fact, with the russian orthodox church as well. what in in this case to do? there can be an autonomous existence of certain dioceses or certain parishes, if... they wish to simply declare their withdrawal from the moscow patriarchate and be in their own, as they say, autonomous sailing, it can be either a diocese, or a monastery, or parish, i think that the clergy of this structure should find a way out for its believers in a normal, normative, canonical, canonically legal channel. i thank you for joining, oleksandr drabynko, metropolitan of pereyaslavskyi and... vishnevskyi of the orthodox church of ukraine, guest of our broadcast. this is svoboda live, traditionally, every day we talk with you about important topics.

there, i just want to explain to our citizens that in the vast majority the priests of the moscow patriarchateine, they consider their activities to be so religious and somehow... really called to some kind of pastoral activity, so partly it is mostly business, and when you are not if you can legally fix this business and you won't be able to make money, then a lot of them will start looking for an opportunity to join someone somewhere, so i think that this will all fall into place very quickly and they will try to mimic and join. to the established religious institutions, unfortunately, unfortunately, we still have many, many years, if ten years, to spit out all that moscow abomination, and i don't want to talk too much about it, we have specialists in religious matters there , so i think we are going to the right direction, the path will be very difficult, not easy, but we must... come. commenting on the adopted law on the activities of religious organizations, metropolitan epiphany, head of the orthodox church of ukraine, called on all ukrainian orthodox to engage in dialogue and final rele

in we have such a church, a ukrainian one, there is a conditionally orthodox church of the moscow patriarchated even full-scale... not an invasion of thousands of killed ukrainians, killed priests, by the way, the blessing of the moscow church, the weapons with which ukrainians were killed, all this did not immediately give decision about the banning of this church in ukraine, why couldn't it all be born for so long, why couldn't they just unequivocally put an end to it, and besides, in your opinion, people who... will get rid of or will get rid of this moscow word, how long then they say, will his absence torment them, or they, if they want god, they will come to you, to epiphanius, to other clergymen, and listen to the word of god, everything will be fine, well, you see, the spiritual enslavement of ukraine began immediately, since the russian empire began to step behind step to colonize. territory of ukraine, starting from the 17th century. the history of our church here is a vivid example: step by step, as soon as russia, the russian empire annexed new ukrainian lands, it began to destroy

faithful to the moscow patriarchate feels betrayed by his church. i talk to many of them.hey feel that the one who was supposed to be... their father has become their enemy, the one who was supposed to care for them, ultimately betrayed them, that doesn't mean that those betrayed, er, wounded people will immediately seek of another denomination, they will go to one or another of her churches. i now have the feeling that many of those wounded, aching hearts, they will generally... depart from the church, and ukraine may face a very powerful wave of secularization, that is, a new kind of atheism and atheism, exactly as it happened in tsarist russia after, means the overthrow of the tsarist throne, and with it the power or power over the people of the russian orthodox church. i would like you to clarify for our viewers the issue of behavior, well here to a lesser extent the behavior of the statements, actions of the head of the vatican, the head of the roman catholic church and the person who sits on the holy throne, because not all people understand why it seems like peace ,

and here we saw that, therefore, the moscow patriarchate very actively began to feel itself a componentf this entire corrupt system. we see that in russia there has been a merger of corrupt secular power and church power, this symphony, it has acquired such, well finally, i would say. such forms of fusion of the throne and the throne, it led to the final loss of the moral authority of that of the church itself, even in russian society, and it was projected as a model of state-church relations for ukraine, it was about moscow orthodoxy as the state church, and we saw how moscow politicians behaved. and behave today in relation to this type of church existence, in particular also in ukraine, and here all those. triumphant bosses, you know, the ones you mention, and it has already begun to fill everyone's mind, uh, i would like us to remember one such delicate reality today, today a huge number of faithful of the moscow patriarchate feel betrayed by their church. i talk to many of them, they feel that the one who was supposed to be their father has become their... enemy, the one who was su

affect the believer. of the ukrainian orthodox church, which used to be called the church of the moscow patriarchatext 15 minutes of the bbc broadcast, jafer umerov works in the studio. spiritual independence from moscow. with these words , volodymyr zelensky announced a draft law at the end of 2022, which now directly prohibits the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine. the verkhovna rada voted for this one the bill is in the second reading, the document is supported. had 265 deputies against.

the believers of the ukrainian orthodox church, which... used to be called the church of the moscow patriarchate, about this in the next 15 minutes of the bbc broadcast, jafer works in the studio moderated spiritual independence from moscow. with these words , volodymyr zelenskyy announced a draft law at the end of 2022, which now directly prohibits the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine. verkhovna rada voted for this bill in the second reading. the document was supported by 265 deputies against. 29, four more abstained. what does this law provide? its main goal, according to the deputies , is to ban the activities of the russian orthodox church and religious organizations related to it in ukraine. the ukrainian orthodox church was not named directly in the law, but the deputies themselves say that it is about her. and although the ukrainian orthodox church insists that this church left moscow in may 2022. the adoption of this law is condemned by ta'. actions of the ukrainian authorities with persecutions, and more about this law and how it works will work, my colleague vitaly

the conscription age, or even, for example, there is a type of voting or not voting for the moscow patriarchate, in fact, they went on vacation, so that for this it's time to prepare part of the votes, but two groups of deputies, who once made up the opz, organized the front in our country. there are more than 40 of them there together, and these deputies still have some influence, they had a kind of non-aggression pact, well, we don’t vote for everything that is brought to us from the president’s office, we boldly press buttons, but you you don't do two things, you don't touch us personally, and there's boyka's group, the same one, for example, and you don't touch the moscow patriarchate, and that's why now they may... they will fall, they may not give bi, well, it is clear that the opzzhe will not vote for the law on the moscow patriarchate, but the eu members can vote, a vote and so on, that is, there would be enough votes, but then the situational union of the greens, greens and former opzzhesniks, which now passes most of the laws in the mountains, would fall apart , but again this, if it

showman yasinsky generally suggests demolishing the domes of the churches of the opc of the moscow patriarchate are handed over to the schismatic church. it is strange that he did not suggests making a portciga from the dome lining. consider their church, please do not allow any christian church to be abolished directly or indirectly, churches cannot be touched. for centuries , the territory of ukraine has been an arena for the struggle of western. benefits from the traditions of orthodoxy, western civilization has embarked on the path of more and more new deviations from the apostolic faith, gradually evolving to its current state, when it professes the cult of the same sins for which they were. according to the holy scriptures of the old testament, destroyed the cities of sodom and gomorrah. that is why the current modern western civilization is called a post-christian civilization by learned philosophers and theosophists, because it is actively retreating from the apostolic faith, and it is logical that the most violent attacks are directed at canonical orthodoxy, this is exactly what we see

, a new version of the charter was adopted, the mention of the moscow patriarchate was removed, grantedomas to his holiness patriarch alexei ii. back in july, the bishop of tartu, head of the estonian ministry of internal affairs. announced plans to separate from the moscow patriarchate, in fact , total control has already been established over the orthodox churches, estonia is ready to demonstrate its loyalty to the west by destroying everything russian, a year ago , metropolitan evgeny of the estonian orthodox church was expelled and stalin to moscow, and this spring they wanted to declare the eoc a terrorist organization. a norwegian professor, specialist, spoke out on twitter on eurasianism and russian history, glenn disson. he believes that the imaginary benefit from banning the uoc-mp serves only to justify kiev's anti-russian policy. banning the orthodox church will bring misfortune to millions of ukrainians. if it is supported by washington and its henchmen, it will further contribute to the de-russification of ukraine. even before yesterday's vote in the rada , raider seizures

are being carried out against 100 clergymen of the canonical ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, criminal cases have been initiated. the majority of them, in my opinion, 26, have already been convicted, and after the adoption of this law, the number of convicted, the number of persecuted, thrown into prison, increases much, much more, i think that it will no longer be counted in hundreds, but in thousands. father andrey, and what do you think, could this lead to a heated conflict in literally a clash among believers or believers and security forces? i think it's practically. possible, just as, for example, you know, demonstrations were impossible in smolensk occupied by the nazis in 1943, the repressive machine has all the means to suppress any discontent, it will simply physically destroy any person who even thinks about contacting someone about organizing a protest, the only thing is that a hot conflict is already underway, and this is our special military operation, sword, russian army, there is no other way. father andrey, and how should priests behave who want to preserve t

, and that's when the whole neo-colonial face of the russian government and the face of the moscow patriarchate appeared in ukraine, then the ukrainian people made a demand for decommunization, even of moscow orthodoxy on the territory country i don't want to go further into the analysis of these processes, because i can be accused of meddling in internal orthodox events, but these are more political events. a citizen of ukraine at a certain moment said to himself: "well, it's enough to fool us as much as you can." and it is obvious that today the ukrainian state feels its duty, in particular in the conditions of a full-scale invasion, to take care of state security. even when it comes to threats to state security, which, then, uh, come from... the bosom of moscow orthodox followers in ukraine, so i think we should all be honest, honest before our own conscience, before the lord god and before the ukrainian people. like us really if we seek god and want to live a spiritual life, then this will be the road to liberation, to freedom, even to the decommunization of the church, even to those new de

orthodox church, as it has always been ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. perhaps maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences, will answer these and other questions. mr. maxim, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. well, zelenskyi calls the law that was adopted today in the verkhovna rada the law on spiritual independence. what... after the adoption of this law will change in ukraine, and does this mean that the adoption of this law puts an end to the existence of the roc branch in ukraine, and well, we understand that we are talking about a church that has a long history of cooperation with the russian orthodox church, this is the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, and what can prevent... ukrainians from getting rid of this church? i think that we are facing a long period of such certain uncertainty, that is, the law puts an end to the questions of legal entities, that is, these communities, questions of ownership, but about which... which way these religious organizations, these priests,

to spur a schism in orthodoxy in the end all hopes of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchatey the way, from this prefix always... in reality the ukrainian state, having joined western civilization, is in a state of quite conscious god-fighting, it consciously fights christianity. it wants to destroy christianity, it wants to first replace it with some clowns, so say, circus performers and scoundrels, and then destroy them completely, this is what the ukrainian priests, the ukrainian orthodox church did not want to notice, or rather they noticed, but they said okay, okay, we will figure it out , after all, we are canonical, they will be with us, like why ban us, after all, look, we have such a large flock, supporters, this will save us, this will not save you, because you do not understand who you are dealing with. and what is the real goal, still, when, so to speak, all these processes began, yes, i said, in that including here on your site, an attempt to persuade or arouse pity for the ukrainian state on the part of the priesthood of the ukrainian orthodox church, this is st

as well, in our religion scholars know each other, they joke that we have a muftiyat of the moscow patriarchate, and because in our country and in islam there are certain connections with russia, we in the jewish world also have certain compositions of our own. well, there are also under-the-floor battles and, thank god, the russian factor is less, but it is still present, i am not talking about neo-religions and certain ones, but what the people call sects, although this is not a completely correct explanation, but flows, but mr. olezh, you are right, and in the second part i completely agree with you that there are organizations under the control of moscow that perform a certain task, especially during wartime, and here is the question, you say that on the one hand we are a democratic country, and on the other hand, we have a war going on, and we understand that if there is organization that are hostile to ukraine, then they simply should not wait there for nine months or there for 90 months, if there is a threat to national security and defense from any organization, from any organization, t

these organizational ties are actually impossible, and the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate was not really going to hide them, believing that the situation could change again, that they made a fuss and that was the end of it, we will somehow stay, no, we didn't stay, the law was passed, so not now they themselves are faced with a choice, either to break those ties with moscow and act by merging either with the orthodox church of ukraine, or as some separate structure. or to stop their activities, they perfectly understand that the situation has already changed, so they are silly comments about objective reality, they are not about anything, reality has changed after the adoption of this law, and they are obliged, trying to act in the legal field of ukraine, to adapt to this reality. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. solemia, for russians, the existence of a controlled church, the russian orthodox church, is not enough. is always important, that is, putin has repeatedly spoken publicly about this spiritual unity, that we came from the same root or from the same church there, well

it, yes, but, let's put it this way, i myself personally know one father who clings to the moscow patriarchatee is, as he told me that i am ours. the bishop consecrated me, i kiss his hand, he consecrated me, i, if i move with him, if he doesn’t move, i won’t move, although he sings the songs of ukrainian soldiers, he says patriotic things, i was at one of the funerals, well, he is very sincere, very correct, very cool says, but at the same time, the servant of the moscow church there is to blame, i talked to him, well, there i say, why not go over, he says, well , i don't know everyone. all the motivations, all the fathers of the priests are the same, but everyone has their own, their own opinion in their head, why they transfer or not, i will repeat again, again, again and again, many priests of the moscow patriarchate, they are patriots, they together with their clergy, they are together with their people, but their episcopate is serhiy rightly said, they are the fsb colonel. they are at least majors there, fsb colonels. i remembered that in the 21st year i was in severodonetsk, there i rea

direction, so i always want to ask really hierarchs of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchatecheckers or go? if you need real grace, real communication with world orthodoxy, and you have such a political situation here, but the church with which you had a canonical connection, it turned out to be a supporter of war, well, from your point of view, it probably has sacraments , grace, all this is, but, but, the problem is that this church supports the destruction of your flock, well, such a moment is historical, but here is the great world orthodoxy, nearby, patriarch of constantinople. which gave it to the second rome, that is, instead of aiming at the third rome, turn to the second rome, to constantinople, or to the first rome, so the ferraro-florentine union, which was signed by the patriot of constantinople, that is, there are options, there are, but they do not want these options simply because they believe that without moscow there is no grace, no faith, no grace, no salvation, then the question arises in... where do they want to save themselves now, or after all, when will

practically impossible to hide these organizational ties, and... the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate did not really care about them to hide, believing that the situation can change again, that they made a fuss and that 's the end of it, we'll get over somehow, no, we haven't got over, the law has been passed, so now we ourselves are faced with a choice, or break those ties with moscow and act by merging either to the orthodox church of ukraine, or as some separate structure, or to stop their activities, they understand very well that the situation has already changed. so these silly comments about objective reality, they are about nothing, reality changed after the adoption of this law, and they are obliged, trying to act in the legal field of ukraine, to adapt to this reality. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. solemiya, for russians , the existence of a church under the control of the russian orthodox church is and has always been important, that is, putin has repeatedly spoken publicly. about the fact that this spiritual unity, that we came from the same root or from the same church th

moscow patriarchate. there should be no moscow patriarchate. we are for the ukrainian church. the russian patriarchate, yes, should be somewhere, in moscow. and not with us. ugh. ago i will fully support it. i keep neutrality. ugh. why? that is, well, because i have my own religious beliefs. all the same, it is more positive, because these are some soviet narratives that, fortunately, are already disappearing. you also share your thoughts and comments under this video on the radio liberty channel. and then we talk about the situation at the front. ukrainian forces have just over 2km to advance to close the so-called cauldron in russia's kursk region and isolate russian troops after the ukrainian army began last week to destroy the bridges on the river seim. from two to three thousand russian troops may be surrounded, the german publication bild writes about this. the day before, ukrainian telegram channels, in particular. volunteer sternenko published a video in which, as stated, operators of the unit's special operations forces destroyed one of the pontoon crossings that the r

is the great world orthodoxy, next to the patriarch of constantinople, who gave thomas to our country. do not want simply because they believe that without moscow no grace, no salvation, then there is question, where do they want to save themselves now? or after all, when neither patriarch kirill nor patriarch putin will be with them anymore? but here is an interesting moment, it is possible that a big global internal change will take place, well, i believe. to the fact that part of the clergy of the uocmp, yes, it will want to go, for example, to the orthodox church in ukraine, we remember our time under metropolitan volodymyr, there were much more such people, so the current head of the uocmp, well, his officers are a little different , i also think that they need anyway to go somewhere, to the orthodox church of ukraine, to some orthodox churches. of other european countries that may be on the borders with ukraine, if they so much do not want communication with the orthodox church of ukraine, with the ecumenical patriarchate, however, the only thing i can tell these people is what they were told from the beginning of the restoration, not eve

was signed by the patriarch of constantinople, well , that is, there are options, there are, but they are these options don't want to, just because they are believe that without moscowfaith. there is no grace, there is no salvation, then the question arises, do they want to save themselves now, or after all, when neither patriarch kirill nor patriarch putin will be with them anymore, but here is an interesting moment, so it is possible that a big global internal change, well, i believe that part of the clergy of the uocp will want to move, for example, to the orthodox church in ukraine, we remember the time of metropolitan volodymyr. there were much more such people, including the current head of the ukrainian orthodox church, and him officers are a little different, i also think that in any case they need to go somewhere to the orthodox church of ukraine, to some orthodox churches, to other european countries that may be located on the borders with ukraine, if they so much do not want communication with the orthodox church of ukraine with the ecumenical patriarchate, but the only thing i... can tell these people is what they were told from the beginning of the rest

view of church efficiency was much more capable and capable of working with people than the moscow patriarchateand another moment, this process lasted for centuries, that is , certain people were nurtured, certain values ​​were nurtured, and short ways to their hearts and explanations were found, that is, those here are the rituals, they entered into life, well, i don’t know, relatively speaking, how those... on the heads, that is , we don’t let a woman in without her and so on, there are some local ones, i want to remind you of one more important thing, that the ukrainian peoples, this too must be realized, that is the population of the modern country, all this time, even the soviet ones, did not lose its connection with the church, as it happened with russia, with the russian people, because in russia this loss occurred as a result of the reforms of patriarch nikan, the appearance of the old believer church, all this rebellion, the fact that people... dug into the woods just so they wouldn't burn themselves, and they didn't just burn themselves, mass suicides of old believers burned themselve

that there is a connection between the so-called ukrainian of the orthodox church with the moscow patriarchate, so in reality it is not such a problem, because in fact it is actually impossible to hide these organizational ties, and the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate was not really going to hide them, considering that the situation could change again, that made a noise and that was the end of it, we will somehow stay, no, we didn't stay, the law was passed, so not now ... we are faced with a choice, either to break these ties with moscow and act by merging with the orthodox church of ukraine, whether as a separate structure or to cease its activities, they understand perfectly well that the situation has already changed, therefore these ridiculous comments about objective reality, they are not about anything, reality has changed after the adoption of this law, and they are obliged , trying to act in the legal field of ukraine, adjust to this reality. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. solemiya, for russians, the existence of a church under the control of the russian orthodox c

those few mps who voted at a session of the verkhovna rada against the law banning the uoc-moscow patriarchatee already begun to be persecuted. artem dmitruk was forced to flee to italy yesterday, he and his family were threatened with reprisals, and were denied state security. the arrest of forty priests is next in line, this has already been announced in the independent country. meanwhile, on august 28 , the great holiday of the dormition of the mother of god is celebrated, hundreds of orthodox believers came to the procession to. in the united states, nuclear missiles and ground-based launchers for them need urgent modernization, this is reported by the american newspaper wall street journal, according to its data, the country's ministry of defense estimates the cost of upgrading intercontinental ballistic missiles and launchers at $ 141 billion. in january, the estimate for the same amount of work was 30 billion less. the modernization is planned to be carried out in 15 years, but the government is already questioning the project , saying it is too expensive. the service life of the missil

it like this, but, let's say this, i myself personally know one father who clings to... the moscow patriarchatehe told me, that our bishop ordained me , i kiss his hand, he kisses me ordained, if i move with him, if he doesn't move, i won't move, although he sings the songs of ukrainian soldiers, he says patriotic things, i was at one of the funerals, he is very sincere, very correct, very cool says, but at the same time the servant of the moscow church there is to blame, i talked to him, well, there i say, why not go over, he says, well, i don’t know all the motives, all the motivations, all the fathers of those priests, here, but in everyone has their own opinion in their head, why they switch or not switch, again i repeat, again, again and again, many priests of the moscow patriarchate, they are patriots, they are together with their clergy, they are together with their people, and... but their bishopric is serhiy rightly said, they are fsb colonels, they at least there are majors, fsb colonels, i remembered that in the 21st year i was in severodonetsk, there i attended training important fo