i graduated from the moser state pedagogical institute named after krupskaya at that time it was an instituteprobably, when it was already graduating, it was a university itself. uh, the pulpit was a machine; it's a machine, it's not a car. these are just the same production workers of the master of industrial training. our second higher education was the academy of management under the president on the basis of higher e 4.5 years was the study of public administration and economics. but now uh when u say in a whirlpool rushed headlong into motorsport, huh? on his own initiative, he graduated from the institute of physical education. eh, just the same in the direction of motor sports, one thing is talking theory, and another thing when we consult with the guys . i sometimes give them advice, sometimes direct instructions for some kind of race, and i myself carry them out successfully. well, you understand that this opinion is more weighty, yes, more weighty, what they say, well, yes, i could not do it. and for example, sergey was able to actually, which means, uh, there was a place to be this