i did in 2004, everywhere that moses grande went after he bought his freedom, i went too and found her grande relatives -- found more l grande relatives, and i went to london, and presented to them a plaque from the grande family, thanking them for their participation and support. and able to share their stories. now called antislavery international. they still exist because the work is not complete, there ist still a lot of slavery in the world that needs to be dealt with, there are other families that are dealing with the same thing on to this day, the work continues to free people and make people aware how this can happen. my first experience at dismal swamp, was the dismal swamp state park in camden, north carolina. that is where mosus was born. and got a lot of information not only about my ancestors, and relatives from a place i first heard of. in dismal swamp, they also have exhibits down there on north carolina side, -- they were very welcoming and allowed people to get a full set of information not previously known to a lot of people about the cultures and the human history su

we also learned that former -- george dutch duncan was recently subpoenaed before funny moses grand jury. this could indict the former president in the coming days. none of which polling shows to be costing him grounds against his primary pronouns. one of whom today finally managed not essential fact of the 2020 election. but, not on the first try. >> whoever puts their hands on the bible on january 20th every four years, is the winner. >> but, respectfully, you did not clearly answer that question. if you cannot give a yes or no on whether or not trump lost, then how -- >> of course he lost. -- >> trump lost the 2020 election? -- >> joe biden is the president. >> joining us now another republican contender, former new jersey senator chris christie. what do you make of that desantis's response? >> i still don't think he answered it. right, he lost. we all know, as a matter of law, he lost the election. the deeper question, and i think when he is dodging, is do you believe it was a full and fair election? that is really the question with respect to the interviewer i think she let him off

it was one of the ways to recognize because moses had his story shared with the west was world moses granded a contribution in the area. and i'll end with that because time of the essence is short and i don't't to keep people too log and thank you for allowing me to come in and share this information. thus far -- >> thank you so much eric, and your connection held out for the entire and only fuzzy once or twice so glad you're with us and thank you so much. appreciate you sharing that information and the story and thanks again to all of our excellent speakers today. and thanks to all of you for attending. unfortunately we have run outrtf time a little overtime but we have put more resources have been put in the chat and i think only one or two remaining questions answer to those -- and also want to let you know one of the questions was about a recording ofec this. webinar is on the presentation for the website for next two days so thanks again to all of our wonderful speakers and to everyone for joining us this was fantastic panel. thank you all. ♪ ♪ if you're enjoying american history tv, si