and he singled out for criticism, eva moskowitz. >> time for eva moskowitz to stop having the run ofar from the disruptive force her critics have described, moskowitz sees her schools as part of the solution, dismissing criticism that they monopolize space. >> i could take you rooms where we are turning closets into rooms that we use. >> reporter: she denies pushing students out, and says private grants make up for public start up funds her schools don't get. >> people think we have all these advantages that we don't have. everyone is trying to make an excuse and do a gotcha instead of sort of, looking at the teaching. >> we try to create schools where kids want to fall in love with school. and to do that you have to have a lot of art, and music and dance, and debate and chess and robotics. >> every fifth grader gets computer science, every sixth grader gets visual art. we're really looking for a robust 21st century program. >> reporter: for principal andy malone's students, or scholars as they're called, the school day is two and a half hours longer. there's a dress code. lots of ru

he did not appoint two of smith's top people, moskowitz and robert moses. if you're, if you've been in politics like peter quinn has the way you can understand that you're taking over from the this legend. are you going to appoint moskowitz who was smith's guy or person as your person? not really. and roosevelt just didn't like robert moses. so smith certainly did not appreciate that. but the letters i've seen in hyde park because unlike novel ists historians have to do research -- [laughter] the letters to me indicate a level of friendship and even affection in those years between 1928 and 1932. in fact, at one point roosevelt writes to smith who's on vacation in florida and says your granddaughter was up here at the mansion playing with my granddaughter. in fact, your granddaughter -- i think her name was mary -- mary is now calling me ganpa. so i cut you out, you know? so it's this sort of affectionate relationship. and, you know, i think roosevelt really did have a well of respect and real affection for smith, and i think there were times when smith did

said he's going to basic way and charter schools and he has this major rivalry with the woman name moskowitz who is a big proponent of it. andrew cuomo in his speech a few days ago a remarkable speech. if you had shown me the words and didn't tell me who said that i would have said it would have been delivered by a conservative republican. he said we spend more money in new york state per-capita than anywhere in the country on public education if he said we are number 32 in the nation in terms of achievement in math and reading and essentials that everybody would be are required to make anything out of your life. he is saying we have to have a school choice in this area. what i'm saying in the book and i'm going beyond the university some of my liberal friends are against choice when it comes to public schools and especially for poor and minority children. we have a reversal of george wallace standing in the schoolhouse door to keep african-americans out more than 50 years ago. we now have people standing in the schoolhouse door of the poor schools to keep children and am we all know a good