. >> so the two germans, oberg and knochen, why didn't, like, israel or mossad or anything hunt them down to -- you know -- were they not that important or were they not known? >> well, i think if i was french and jewish or french and patriotic and had served in the resistance, they'd be top of my list. that's a good question. i don't know why they weren't hunted down. and i certainly know that both of them were very aware that they were marked men. they were very afraid to be tried in france. when they were brought to france, they knew that things were going to be very, very serious. it's a good question. you'd have to ask the same of the entire german nuclear physicist program. what happened to them? well, they put a man on the moon, basically. there were political considerations. the cold war had begun in 1945. we shook hands and danced to the banjo with the russians in april of 1945, but that was the end of our so-called relationship, so the cold war was really hotting up by 1946/47, berlin airlift, et cetera, and we needed a bulwark against communism in europe. in west germany,