thank you mother for being my mother. thank you for your imperfect love that almost worked.mostly worked or partly worked. it was almost enough. >> okay. let me get myself together here. why was your mother's love imperfect? >> like many native american women now and in the past she was a target for all sorts of violence and oppression and racism and misogyny. i think the pain she endured growing up prevented her from being able to fully express her love and being able to fully trust the world. so i think in some ways she was not built to be a mother. it was more like blue collared labor for her. i think she had to concentrate. and the thing she ended up being, the thing she could do was she was dependable. she was a worker. my father was a random alcoholic. my mother sobered up and became the bread winner and paid the bills and kept electricity on. so in a lot of ways she ended up being my mother and my father. she ended up fulfilling every gender role inside of our family. and she did it without being very affectiont. i can remember her hugging me twice in my life. it's in

that i worked with my mother. the joy of my father giving me a baby lamb is a gift i had been asking for. playing dr. with the boy next door. one of my father's. after i got to my childhood neighborhood. i always enter through the damascus gates. although i was almost shocked right there. that was in 1989 when i came to participate in the international market. peace as well as a march was shattered. i was very frightened. one italian woman lost her eye. she came all the way from rome chancing peace. she left with one eye. in the old city i buy gifts i also by that. also i can bring a few pieces of jerusalem. is beautiful colors back to the u.s. to my home in the u.s. thank you very much. [applause]. think you. now we have some time for question and answer. as i said they will move the camera toward you. she's right there. what were your favorite foods while you were growing up. you know i think as a group. i love cheese and bread and water together. i want to know who taught you how to cook so deliciously. >> i re

my mom and her mother were separated. i mom wanted to be with her mother. she went to the line where her mother was an -- and a german hit her and told her you go where you are told to go. she actually never saw her mother again. my grandparents perished very but my grandfather died right on the train and my grandmother as soon as she got there. >> with your mother at auschwitz, you are in this convent and you'd be in the convent for about a year, tell us about what you can and about your time in that comment and what led to your decision to ine with a christian family the convent, they looked like sound of music but they were very strict. >> they did not sing. bill: what was your life like in that convent? i can't compare it to other comments, i don't think i have been in another one. i had a very large courtyard. convent, it was out in the open and the children -- we would all play together and we would say our rosaries many times a day. i would say them in french. i didn't know what i was saying. we would play and by the way, i for a the convent more tha

mother was the only mother, we were the only family of three people, which made us very fortunate. everyone else, as far as i know, was alone. my mother, sister, and i survived by a stroke of luck. my sister was beaten badly and she was put -- our assumption was her name on the list indicated she was to go to the gas chamber. the three of us had a pact that if one of us was picked, three of us would go. i know, my feeling was -- i did not understand. i wanted so much, my biggest dream was to make the transition. to death holding on to my mother's hand and my sister's hand. so, the only logical thing was for my mother and me to trade places with two other women to see another sunrise. the following day, they called my sister's name and the names of the two other women, my mother and i reported with a group of people. absolutely sure that we are being walked to the gas chamber. instead, we were loaded onto a freight train and taken. there was a distinction between an extermination camp and slave labor camp. a slave labor camp, people also died but from extreme labor, lack of food. sl

because you don't have to be a perfect mother. you just need to be a good enough mother. and that's the thing that i read in winning cots book and i think it's true. i don't think there are any perfectmothers. i'm a mother and i'm not perfect . number. >> my child has never been involved in the child welfare system. never been separated from me. during her childhood. and so i don't know what that's like but i felt that with this mother, she lost her children enough to do what was best for them.one of the policies, it's not really a policy but a practice. because i feel that best practice is really important. i think that evidence-based practice is important and one of the practices that i advocated for is differential response. and in washington, it's called family assessment. family assessment response. this is the practice that has been around for many years and it's actually worked in other countries. >> rates of disproportionality have gone down. what the policy stipulates is that when a call comes in to child protective services, a social worker will actually go out

i don't think that there are any perfect mothers. i'm a mother and i'm not perfect. no. my child has never been involved in the child welfare system, never been separated from me during her childhood, and so i don't know what that's like. but i felt that with this mother she loved her children enough to do what was best for them. one of the policies, it's not really a policy, but a practice. because i feel that best practice is really important. i think that evidence-based practice is important. and one of the practices that i advocated for is differential response. and in washington it's called family assessment response. fars. this is a practice that's been around for many, many years, and it's actually worked in other countries. rates of disproportionally have gone down. what the policy stipulates is that when a call comes in to child protective services, a social worker will actually go out to the home and do an assessment. and this is done anyway. so we're not advocating doing something new. that's what we do when we get a call. but with this particular practice, if

but you didn't tell your mother.e asked me to change my shirt, and took photos while i was topless. i let him do that, and i didn't tell my mother. then he gets back in contact, and he wants to take more. what was your feeling there? i was a little uncomfortable, but i really wanted that opportunity to be in vogue paris, so i went ahead with it. you wrote about it, saying, whatever i did on that hill, it might put me on the map, my family would be stoked. so everyone will be happy that you are making it. right. so tell me about that night. you went off with a friend as well, but she didn't stay. no, she never went along. he said we would be kind of late, and she couldn't stay late. i didn't see it as a big deal or a problem. and he ended up taking you up to jack nicholson's house? what were your expectations? ijust hoped we'd get good photos. i thought we would do photos until we lost the light and then i would go home later. from the moment you arrive, he gave you champagne? we had photographs, and there was a house

♪ at one point, your father left your mother. mother found herself with four kids, no money.avid: let's talk about ibm. ginni: we are the champions for business. david: do you see ceos are willing to say, mr. president, that is not a good idea? do you feel a certain responsibility? ginni: women still need good role models. -- >> would you fix your tie, please? david: well, people wouldn't recognize me if my tie was fixed, but ok. just leave it this way. alright. ♪ david: i don't consider myself a journalist. and nobody else would consider myself a journalist. i began to take on the life of being an interviewer even though i have a day job of running a private equity firm. how do you define leadership? what is it that makes somebody tick? so when you wake up in the morning, you say, look at all that i have achieved and i am proud with what i have done? ginni: what a way to start. [laughter] ginni: i don't think i had either of those thoughts on the first day. i thought about what an honor it was and what a responsibility. people forget ibm is 106 years old. you wake up that mo

she became a mother at 25, but her relationship broke down and she's now a single mother.er son lives with jhoanna's mother and younger brother. she goes home every weekend to see him. it renews her dedication to studying. ♪ >> the demand for caregivers is rising not only in the west but also in asia as well. ♪ >> this company sends housekeepers to hong kong and singapore but has seen a recent rise in requests for caregivers. >> for a while. >> the agency works together with this housekeeper training center. housekeepers sent abroad spend at least two weeks learning basic cleaning and cooking techniques. they must pass a national exam. the agency has now asked that basic care giving is added to the training curriculum. >> if your patient has in bed-ridden, you must use diapers. if not, flex the legs and insert the bedpan. >> this training means students can add basic care giving to their housekeeper certificate. the agency can charge a higher fee and the workers will earn more money. >> like singapore, once they are applying as a live-in caregiver, their salary is higher t

>> her mother -- an ocean away. she would turn investigator, then negotiator. >> we are not playing games! >> could she save her only daughter? >> had to be strong for her. >> i'm lester holt and this is "dateline." here's kate snow with "kidnapped." . this call. >> if you guys don't pay $1 million for me, by one week, they will kill me. >> okay. >> her daughter was on the phone a world away. she'd been kidnapped in one of the most dangerous places on earth. >> i feel so awful. i can't believe they're doing this. i hate doing this to you guys. >> this mother negotiated with kidnappers, with her daughter's life on the line. >> i understand. >> did you keep it together? >> i did. i had to be strong for her. >> and the daughter faced unimaginable fears. >> my head is pulled back. and then there was a serrated knife. >> their stories are intertwined, amanda and her mother lorinda stewart, both women driven by strength, courage, and most of all, endurance, a story amanda told in detail in the book she's written and here

at one point, your father left your mother, and your mother was not college-educated at the time.ow did she support four children? ginni: i give my mom a lot of credit for all four of us. as david said, my mother had a high school degree, the quickly had children right after that. i was in my early teens when my dad decided to leave. mother found herself with four kids, no money, soon to be know home, soon to be no food. she was so intense. not letting other people define who she was. we had to do some things for a short time. we had to get help. that is what entitlement programs in this company is for anyways. but she went back to school. nightnt back to school at and learned a profession, and as she became head of the administration for the sleep clinic in chicago. like everyone's family, they pitched in. my mother taught us -- the lesson i learnt is never let someone else define who you are. she would never let that situation defined who she was. david: you were the babysitter. meetings,ent to pta bugle lessons. i did not get paid. david: you have a scholarship to go to northwe

his mother fatima visits her son's grave almost every sunday. are proud of you" is emblazoned on his tombstone. fatima hasn't been downtown since her only child died by violence. fatima papura: [speaking ukrainian] you have to understand, for me, the union building is a place charged with so much suffering, so much death, so much pain. reporter: on the evening of may 2, 2014, molotov cocktails flew into the trade union building. pro-russian demonstrators had sought refuge inside. adherents of the pro-western maidan movement had chased them here. vadim papura was on the pro-russian side. his mother still has a helmet, deformed by the incredible heat of the fire in the union building. fatima papura: [speaking ukrainian] here, the hammer and sickle and red legion. i know it's his helmet. he had written that on it. there were lots of helmets like this there. reporter: vadim had joined the "communist youth" and opposed the government in kiev and its pro-western course. tetjana sojkina was on the pro-western side. even today has little pity for the pr

mother, mother with the children, you mother down there with the children. >> i knew they were now addressingut immediately, we got up on our knees and the shooting starting again. >> she thought by moving she would draw attention to herself. >> we were scared because we thought now our cover has been blown because now they know we are really not dead. >> faith didn't trust anyone now, so when a man approached, she was sure it wasn't good. >> and that's when i felt somebody touching me, i knew they had come for us because now they know we are alive. so we just laid down there and i remember telling them, shh, quiet. >> faith has to make a split second decision. their lives depend on it. should she trust the man talking to her child. >> baby, baby, touching my daughter. >> and then a fresh shock for catherine's husband. >> that was very traumatic to me. >>> for three and a half hours thousands of demonstators -- march in the streets. police officers use a new startegy. did it work? we )re live on the scene. =vo= also -- the bay area is sending help to texas. the flooding problems are instensif

who lost her mother very young. you have achieved a lot. nancy: thank you. i am a little older than you. i was in the philippines. >> she looks much younger though. [laughter] doctor.y dad was a he was posted to manila. i was with my parents during the war. they were evacuated in 1941. the only picture i really have a earlyher with me was in may in 1941 when they found out we would be evacuated. parentsts without -- my went outside of their quarters and took parents -- my parents went outside of their quarters and took turns taking pictures of me on their laps. father's tour of duty was to be up in 1941. so, she decided to stay on the there whento be ther the he arrived. all, they were abandoned by the government, who did not seek reinforcements when they were attacked. , there wererrender two surrenders, one in maine one in june of 1941. my father was listed as missing in action for a year. he was finally registered as a pow. story and i don't know how much you want me to go into it right now, but he spent japan.ea

david: your mother is still alive.oes she say how well you're doing or that your other siblings are doing just as well? [laughter] ginni: she calls and talks about all things mothers talk about. her biggest thing -- this past easter, she was at my house and i was having to leave in the middle of the day to get to the airport. my mom says, before you leave, i have your annual report, and i have written a set of notes on it. i am like, i'm going to get a report card from my mother. the first thing a mom does is look at the pictures. but my mom says, i loved this annual report. this annual report, i understand what ibm does. and it was 50 short vignettes on how the world and industries have changed with ai, cloud computing, and how it will make life better. my mom says, now i understand. and she had comments about the look and the paper type, so she gave me a report card. david: did you give these comments to your colleagues? ginni: i did. david: you graduated from northwestern. you were not required to work at general mo

instilled by your mother? mr.: i also lost two elections along the way which kept me humble. i think that stuff is overrated. i think i got elected because basically we were the last generation that was born without a television. i was 10 years old before we got a television. i grew up in a culture where people actually talked and listened to each other. i don't know how these people make it today. you have the average president talks eight second on television. snapchat is 10 seconds. twitter is 140 characters. my life revolved around meals. my father died in a car wreck before i was born, so i spent a lot of time with my grandparents and their generation. and my great uncle was the smartest guy in our family. he presided over conversations and he involved the kids in them. and he taught me that everyone has got the story and most , people can't tell it, and that's sad. and that people are inherently interesting if they can get out of their own way. so what i was taught, listen and to look. i think that is what i

on that one night, your mother lost two sons? >> saroo brierley: yes, and i can't think, you know, what she went through. it's like, one is just, you know, here it is, he's died, but the other one, he's just disappeared. >> whitaker: why did your birth mother decide to stay there in that very village? >> saroo brierley: because she felt that one day the son that she had lost would come back. and it was amazing because here i am, determined to find my hometown and my family from one side of the world, oceans apart, and here's my birth mother sitting there and waiting because she knew that one day her son would come back. and i'm so glad that she did. >> whitaker: saroo is now helping his biological mother in india financially, but he considers sue and john brierley his mom and dad, and australia his home. >> for a look at how 60 minutes reports its stories, as well as interviews with correspondents and producers, go to 60minutesovertime.com, sponsored by lyrica. before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. i was active. then the chronic, wi

ellroy writes of what he knows, his own mother was murdered when he was a child.that simple, terrible fact the key to understanding all the words he's ever written? james ellroy, welcome to hardtalk. hey, boss, what's shaking? we are going to talk about 35 years of novel writing and of your books has been set in and around los angeles. absolutely untrue — right off the bat, bam. i've wrote three novels, the underworld usa trilogy, the american tabloid, which was time magazine's novel of the year year in 1995. the cold six thousand and blood's a rover are set outside la. right, but southern california is your world. i'm from there and it's where i go when women divorce me. i suppose what i'm getting at is whether you've ever been tempted to go for outside your own background milieu, where you're from and what you know. is that where you have to place your fiction? i have but i came back. i made a conscious decision with my new novel perfidia to craft a second la quartet, taking characters from the initial la quartet, the black dahlia, the big nowhere, la confidenti

instilled by your mother? mr.i also lost two elections along the way which keeps you humble. i think that stuff is overrated. i think i got elected because i was basically we were the last generation that was born without a television. i was 10 years old before we got a television. i grew up in a culture where people actually talked and listened to each other. i don't know how these people make it today. you have the average president talks eight seconds on television. snapchat is 10 seconds. twitter is 140 characters. my life revolved around meals. my father died in a car wreck before i was born, so i spent a lot of time with my grandparents and their generation. and my great uncle was the smartest guy in our family. he presided over conversations and he involved the kids in them. and he taught me that everyone has got the story, and most people can't tell it, and that's sad. and that people are inherently interesting if they can get out of their own way. so what i was taught, listen and to look. i think that is

because he is called a brother with a different mother. he hangs out.] he hangs out in maine more than i do. [laughter] david: when you campaigned, you were campaigning against some of the things the clinton administration had done when you were running in 2000. mr. bush: yeah, probably. [laughter] mr. bush: we are both baby boomers. we are both southern governors. we had a lot in common. he got along with people in his legislature, i got along with mine. we had friends in common. and so there was a natural ability to respect and like each other. therefore, if you disagree with someone, it does not mean you don't like him. mr. clinton: also i recognized that he was 44 days older than me. [laughter] so i called him on his birthday and said, i'm calling you on bended knee because this begins my 44 days of respect for my elders. [laughter] mr. bush: when i was president, i would call bill, and he was very helpful. he knew a lot about a variety of issues, particularly international affairs that i was interested in. i knew i could count on him for good advic

bush: you know what my mother said?our feet offer the jeffersonian table. ♪ both of you ran for congress and the both lost. you have that in common. after you lost the first time you were trying to beat an incumbent congressman and you lost. did you say, i am out of politics? mr. bush: i got a break in a way. 1974emocrats did well in because president nixon resigned. whon against a congressman was one of his father's best friends. he had an 85% approval rating, and 99% name recognition. mr. bush: that is called suicide. and henton: i was zero beat me. it was one of the best things that ever happened to me. we wound up being friends too. this district had the highest amount of gasoline use in america, because it was all on hilly roads. you are television ads did not amount to anything if you did not do retail campaigning. i've learned 75% of what i know about politics in that first race. david: at the time hillary came down to help you with the campaign. did you think she was going to stay down in arkansas and mary you?

send these boys home with these mothers i haven't taught the mothers anything.my camp takes the 200 mothers with the 200 boys. i put the mothers in the company and sleep. i make the boys stay at ranch and porta potties things of that nature. i take them for a week and i teach them the principles of man hood and the power of dream building. because nothing is more powerful than your dream. there is nothing. you know, the bottle doesn't limit your education. but it does mention your dream. but your dream propels you to get the education. but if you never give a child a dream, we lose so many young people because of that. i took them into this camp, i taught the mothers some skills you know how to handle boys. some legal advice. you know, health issues how to eat, how to better treat -- and i took the boys and taught them about man hood. it affected these boys lives drastically one week with the united states army's help with a lot of fraternities that have members from schools across the country. all of the fraternities out there, the alphas, the sigmas, the kappa

sensing the attention, her mother -- the tension, her mother suck refuge in a nearby church.nable to reach her mother, she learned her family's house had been torched, livestock slaughtered, and her mother burned alive. >> she should not have died like that. not like a thief. it is so painful because she did nothing. she did not even vote. she did not even vote. they should have burned me instead. reporter: the church once stood in this weight -- wasteland. grazing animals are the only visitors that come here now. >> the church faced this way. reporter: m but -- an elder tells me -- >> when the fire started their mothers through their children out the windows here and here. men with machetes were waiting outside to kill anyone whoho mae it out. reporter: 38 people had that day. most of them -- died that way. most of them women and children. only 14 were identified. for the families of the dead, this graveyard is simply too painful to return to. one of the things that struck me as about just how far the houses are from each other. but it was not always like this. after the vio

mother, mother with the children, you mother, down there with the children.w they were now addressing me. immediately we got up on to our knees and trying to get up and go, the shooting started again. >> reporter: she thought by moving she had drawn attention to herself. >> we were scared. first because we thought our cover has been blown. now they know that we are really not dead. >> reporter: faith didn't trust anyone now so when a man approached, she was sure it wasn't good. >> that's when i felt somebody touching me, you know, they had come for us because now they know we are alive. so we just laid down there and i remember telling the children, shush, quiet. >>> coming up, faith has to make a split-second decision, their lives depend on it. should she trust the man talking to her child? >> baby, baby," touching my daughter, baby, baby. >> and then, a fresh shock for katherine's husband. >> that was very traumatic to me. when kids are coming into my classroom they know that... ...mr. jackson is the rapping teacher we call it the remainder that's number th

her mother always has to accompany her.a is a world strictly controlled by hamas, and she often has to deal with angry criticism, and even threats. in this clip, she plays a traffic officer. in reality, a woman doing this is inconceivable. the drivers -- all of the men -- sit and stare like she is from another planet. as a woman, of course, she has no authority. >>[speaking arabic] reporter: it seems like a harmless video, but while her male colleagues were applauded for their performance, she was criticized and insulted on social media for hers. the main thread -- a respectable woman does not do these kinds of things. even some of her relatives have distanced themselves. >> people said a lot of horrible things about me -- that i was a disgrace, for example. it hit me hard. i said to my mother, i give up. i don't want to leave the house anymore. but my mother has always picked me up and encouraged me. reporter: instead of giving up acting and waiting for a prospective husband to get her a ring, she and her mother and friend

a mother and daughter amazingly suffered no serious injuries.as noticed by a swimmer who, along with another pedestrian, pulled them out of the car. just briefly, the main news again that the governor of texas as the state has not yet seen the worst of the flooding triggered by tropical storm harvey. it is still affecting the energy supply. more companies are shutting pipelines and refineries. the storm has now made la ndfall refineries. the storm has now made landfall in louisiana. much more all of the news on the bbc news website anytime. thanks for watching. hello there. we're moving into the last day of august, but in some places, yesterday, it felt like september had already arrived. because there was a lot of cloud, there was some rain around, and temperatures across some south—eastern areas only got up to 13 degrees. but further north and west, the day brought brighter skies and some spells of sunshine. just a few showers. and that's the sort of weather that we will take with us into thursday. the cloud has now been chased away to the eas

her own experience of not having a mother to grow up with, she never learned how to be a mother, good or bad and as a consequence, i think she paid special attention to her grandchildren to make up for not reading a good mother. i can remember going for quite lengthy walks in the woods with my grandmother and she would always want to know what my interests were and as a child at seven, eight, nine years old gosh here's my grandmother paying attention to me wanting to know how my life is going and she very seldom talked about, until we were much older, she very seldom talked about her work and the things that she did as i said, until we were considerably older. she was a typical grandmother but my grandmother was a horrible cook. she did not cook but you know she always made time for the grandchildren that were there and they had a very special place, and we had the run of the place. we were very, very busy but i just remember the times that i had with her and just being with her and really basking in her love really. >> host: how was she has a grandmother? was she any type of discipli

david: your mother is still alive.hicago and tell you how great you're doing, or does she call your other siblings are doing just as well? [laughter] ginni: she calls and talks about all things normal mothers talk about, right? her biggest thing -- this is a funny story about my mom. this past easter, she was at my house and i was having to leave in the middle of the day to get to the airport. my mom says, hey, before you leave, i have your annual report and i have written you a little set of notes on it. i am like, great, i'm going to get a report card for my mother on this annual report. doesirst thing like a mom is she looks at the pictures. but my mom says, i loved this annual report. she goes, this annual report, i understand what ibm does. and it was 50 short vignettes on little vignettes on how the world and industries have changed because of watson, ai, cloud computing, and how it will make life better. right? my mom goes, this is -- now i understand. and she had comments about the look and paper type and other

that's ryan, the groom, and his mother debbie. they start dancing. >> mm-hmm. i'm sure.o slow dance the entire time. >> they actually slow dance the entire time -- yshes, the entir time. a beautiful mome >> ironically unexpected. >> there she is, mother/son exchanging pleasantries. >> your mother is the only one that loves you. >> then the deejay picks it back up again. >> mom said she wanted to do a special dance with you, you said that was way too -- >> ryan is like, no, mom, we're not doing that, that's way too pinteresty. ryan didn't expect this. >> she's doing it any way. >> mama said i'm going to do a fun dance, you stand over there in the corner, you be the sucker, let me be great. and she's got company. ♪ ♪ just take those old records off the shelf ♪ >> debbie is joined by ryan's grandmother, and aunt lisa. here is where they steal the show. ♪ grandma is having a good old-time. you want this? take it! she happens to be in a wheelchair this was a surprise for everybody. >> this is a great moment they'll always have and always remember. it's a great moment to run b

-- mother's womb a human being?f we know life begins at conception or before birth, we have to revisit this. host: i'm going to let you go at that point because we have little time and lots of questions on the line. melissa: to make clear the bridge between griswold and roe, in between in 1972, third is another case before the court dealing with contraception. there the court is considering whether massachusetts law that prohibits the use of contraception's to married people is constitutional and the court in an opinion by brennan writes that the right of individuals to have a child is the right of the individual. , what is leftayt up to individuals? in roe, it seems like a leap from contraception in griswold. it is that language that speaks of a fundamental right to determine whether or not to beget a child that furnishes the underpinnings for roe. clarke: and yet it was an equal protections case. as the history shows and papers of the justice show, justice brennan was writing at the time of the roe and doe decisio

his mother invited us in. >> we learned today he was arrested by police.>> his mother said she had not spoken with him since the weekend. he was arrested on monday for attempted to manufacture child pornography after he was seen transporting three children to the business. investigators say they were tipped off. >> they just provided information. a particular st card was found and turned over to police.>> he had a hidden recording device inside the only bathroom in the school and captured images of at least one child under the age of 10.>> disgusting. i want to start crying. if i would've known back, i would have broke down the door.>> they say the studio was also used as an afterschool program. i dug up his license which listed the business as an art school but the license expired in march 2016. reviews on yelp were all positive with customers raving about the lessons and art classes for kids. her mother said he was always giving back to the community.>> is a very good boy and he volunteers for the community. he is not going to do anything bad. he is a good boy. >> he is behind bars a

so if you work with a mother, you empower a mother, you empower a child.nd you know the first thing that mothers do is spend money on their children's education. and then they improve their home and their living conditions. >> once a week, all of the women involved in the project help sort out the clothes. they remove labels and fix anything that needs mending. the scheme also gives the women two years of training, which they partly finance themselves with the money they earn with their small businesses. tracey gilmore is a strong believer in creating a nurturing environment for the women who work here. almost all come from disadvantaged backgrounds. gilmore herself grew up in a very different world. tracey: we lived in a bubble, i have to admit. you know, we went to a white school, we lived in a white community, we really lived a very protected life. so only when we got into high school did we start to realize that something was wrong. mymy parentsts weren't activi, but they did teach us the right way. >> tracey gilmore and tracey chambers wanted to do so

so i remember with my mother hursley