next we sit down with candy moulton who explores the life and career of the army surgeon valentine t. mcgillycuddy. >> jesse james, billy the kid, those iconic stories and those are the ones that really sell because people recognize those names. 90% of the people, 98% of the people have never even heard his name and they are saying who is the doctor who was crazy horse's dad. but few people know who that was. and it's so sad because that is why i was also attracted to the tory because he really was involved in some interesting events. he was a gentleman who grew up in detroit and became a doctor at a young age. twenty were sold and he became a doctor and he came out into the west because he was a very healthy he started working with the northern boundary area and so as a cartographer and a historian and a surgeon and he was back in washington dc drawing the map that they had created when he got tapped on the shoulder and said, would you be interested in going out in another expedition and he came in through the black hills of south dakota and in 1874 custer had a military expedition t