and we know that you yourself you were involved in that mousavi campaign bear back in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine there was a clear up as it had there what can you tell us about the main actors in these most recent demonstrations and what their goals might be any do they want more economic reform or is this really big or to they want regime change. yeah exactly this demonstration organized by ordinary people you cannot see any footprint of. or a famous opposition groups and what they wanted people in two thousand and nine it was the both the results of election and they the people in the protests in two thousand and nine they believe that they can reform the system but change the president but these people they are most mostly young people that they are really angry about economic social and political transition in iran and also economy situation. they want really found them in my opinion they want really fundamental change in the system that we can say we can hear on the street is not the boat reform or freedom of political prison or nothing about mousavi and karroubi

hand and it spread like wildfire to dozens of cities across iran i've got here a tweet from sayed mousavi professor let me just share this with you says because of all the different camps the dynamics of very very these protests don't even have a nor official personality as a leader the protests directions a sense the telegram app a crowd shows up no manifesto no clear message right submersion everyone goes back home professor how did you see what happened to the last couple of weeks. well i would agree that it started with economic we even says now i think whether the hardliners were involved in organizing these protests i think the question is still all in who you really don't know but never the best people have no real economic grievances official unemployment rate in iran is twelve percent but when you study the detail of the unemployment rate for people aged fifteen to twenty nine is actually over twenty six percent and this is the official rate perhaps it's even higher than this and as you can imagine young people without jobs are unhappy required list of this whole issue or part li

mir—hossein mousavi... ..who is still under house arrest.me the regime realises it has to liberalise a bit, the problems with liberalising a bit, whether it's in iran or in any authoritarian state, is you get people's hopes up and then you can't deliver. i think some of what we're seeing now is what was going on in 1999 and in 2009, people thought, "well, we've signed the jcpoa, this is the iran nuclear deal, we will get some benefit now because all of our assets overseas are being unfrozen, there will be easier trade to carry on", and it's not coming through, and after two years they're fed up and they come into the street. i think that that's sort of what's driving it. and bronwen is absolutely right, america shouldn't be involved in this, because what all these american administrations have forgotten, if they ever knew, is that iranians are profoundly patriotic. not nationalistic, although they are that too, they are profoundly patriotic. they don't want a lot of intervention. they want to sort their own problems out and the less said fro

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and stupid means he can write about that because the part of mousavi and his can comprehend that i didn't write my bicycle lambo stupid me now i mean it is it is very difficult to take the time to explain to an audience that may not understand what you're a database technology which is roots of us and go and explain what a block changes and dusted they take the path of least resistance and often that is just one that is very intellectually empty you know looking at this open source projects going back to linux you know it's technology guys and they're solving the problem of the software presented to them by microsoft and i thought you know we could do a better job of going to open source this and nerds and techno guys and programmers behind the scenes nobody ever hears about them came up with this product that was world beating product when software becomes money if it could have been coined as software that is money it's open source money right how has this impacted the general mindset of the young entrepreneur and developer programmer because it seems like it's not necessarily a match m

the white house that iran is held up its side of the bargain all right we can now talk to hama and mousavi a professor of political science at the university of tehran thank you for talking to us how are the people of iran taking this moment all the apprehensive do they seriously think that the u.s. may pull out of the deal. yes i mean of course there is concern i think i'm donald trump in nate and you know the three decisions tomorrow scenario one is that he decides to really cause the nuclear sanctions on iran that were seized on the the application of which were seen as a result of the nuclear deal if he does bad he's essentially withdrawn from the united states from the nuclear deal and iran has made it very clear that if that happens it will also be crossed from the deal under the second scenario is that he decides to continue staying in the deal and that would be the ideal case of course and i think the third scenario which is probably the most likely scenario is that he wore continue to stay in the deal but he was tried to implement new non-nuclear related sanctions now if that happ

of the chants in two thousand one hundred there is no more calls for the release of we are saying mousavi. uncaught i mean of course for his reports it's a completely absent and this is quite intriguing to me because there's a disconnect there the can as you say either be more easier to contain for the authorities because it's not an organized challenge it's not like three million people out in the streets with alternative vision for the government a visible opposition that can replace you now it's mostly. dispersed chaos homes in some areas well thank you very much for that nuanced analysis. and i'm going to our top story this hour north korea's leader warning the united states that is nuclear forces are reality not just a threat in his new year's address kim jong un also said he had a nuclear button on his desk but he struck a much more conciliatory tone with south korea saying he was open to dialogue and wishing them success for the winter olympics aren't slowly reports from seoul. this is how north korea welcomed the new year with a fireworks display much like the rest of the world bu