there's no question that a lot of the ideas came from eckert and moxley. but the paper was released under john von neumann's name. all i can do is find out what the truth is, and the truth is that yeah, it was released and it was considered a publication so it avoided the chance of patents on eniac. all i can tell you, you come in terms of smoking gun is a 1945 when von neumann signed a consulting agreement with ibm, said he was already, this result was highly terrible for ibm, that there were no that restrictions on it, on these ideas. but i think from von neumann's point of you i don't think he was out, doing anything as group is that he thought this would be for the good of everybody. i think you remember that they're all coming out of world war ii were all these groups are later -- during the war they were all collaborative. rca and accurate and mauchly, they were all cooperating together. people from manchester coming from princeton. people from princeton were going to manchester, arguing about who should get credit came along later spent faq all come