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. >> ismael watched the situation in his rearview moyer. >> he opened the door and hoot it. >> it happened that fast? >> i don't hear anything. too far away. >> one of the deputies described it as the subject was turning toward him, the barrel was turning in his direction. deputy fired several rounds at the subject striking him at least one time. >> the boy's father says he'll never believe the shooting was justified. he says it was 3:00 in the afternoon, the boy wasn't hiding the replica and had it in his hands in the open. >> there has to be a restatement put out to let them know this ain't right. there has to be another way than excessive force. >> he was that one kid, oh, look, andy's here. he always brought a smile to everybody's face. now that he's gone, it is devastating. >> reporter: the investigation a long way from being over. we are told only one of the two deputies who was in that squad car yesterday afternoon actually did any of the firing and fired seven shots. there's still a lot more to go there and organizers of tonight's rally say they'll be back out here tomorrow night a

. >> coming up on moyers and company, why are dr. seuss and mack the turtle on this list of 100 great americans? peter dreier has the answer. >> yertle the turtle is a message to all americans that we can change america in a more democratic direction if we're willing to fight back and we're willing to challenge the powers that be. >> at our website billmoyers.com, we've taken a cue from media scholar sherry turkle, and have some tips from our viewers on how to motivate friends and family to unplug from their devices and make eye contact again. we'd like to hear your ideas, too. that's all at billmoyers.com. i'll see you there and i'll see you here, next time. >>> don't wait a week to get more moyers. this episode of moyers & company is available on dvd for $19.95. to order, call 1-800-336-1917 or write to the address on your screen. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. indep

zation gone wild i think so yeah i've written about that this week to bill moyers dot com and you know you have to look at the roots of this you know we really did loose in the oversight requirements in and this is the inevitable result they've thrown an awful lot of money at this site and to be fair it really is a complex endeavor it has to connect state and federal government with insurers with private insurers their systems aren't all compatible it needs to have an extremely high degree of security it was never an easy task it was always inherently complex so the republicans just shut down the government for sixteen days it cost us twenty over twenty billion dollars twenty two to twenty four billion dollars by some it's a costly tantrum yeah and it may end up costing actually two or three times that when you look at the impact over the next year in terms of diminished g.d.p. and all those kind of things in fact it might even be as much as ten times that well let's just go with twenty billion dollars so far they've spent about two hundred thirty news report i read i think was the new

moyer will speak more about the office on violence against women. we did understand it was going to cease operations today under the shut down. from what we hear from our members across the country, it's just almost chaotic trying to get information from hud or from the irs for a low income taxpayer clinic that many of them run. that the impact so far of the shut down really has been a lack of continuity in these programs, a lack of the ability to get information. and the longer it goes on, the more chaotic that situation will become. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. they rayburn cafeteria isn't doing too well either, sir, i want you to know. dawn, we remember you when you attended another forum only two years ago and your testimony was very important than. we turn now to the president of two organizations, the alliance, nan aaron, president of the alliance justice, and the judicial selection process. she's worked with the aclu's national prison project, trial attorney for the equal employment opportunity commission, litigating race and

moyer than five million californians trying to sign up for insurance under the affordable care act. 23,000e tried to get through by phone sm. had to wait by phone, others ran into signals. today things to be smoother. we called a phone line this morning that waited on hold this afternoon we got through in just 14 minutes and the web site is now back online with some upgrades. so let's see whachs online. click a yellow button there saying start here there. is a bar now, let's see up there at the top. where you can click apply button that link not working today and right now, look at that still not working. however, you can navigate throughout the site. finding the plan you want and then, you will see another apply button. let me show that to you down tlont right. it's yellow. that button now... look at that. now, it does work. we told covered california about the nonworking button. we're told it's being looked into. if you'd like more information i've posted a link on our web site. just go to abc 7 news.com and click on 7 on your side. for the second nim a month and for the same reason, a c

. >> this week on "moyers & company" -- >> the government of the united states is distracted. obviously, if it's going to now have a rolling every couple of months crisis and a rolling discussion of these issues, it can't do any of the other things that the world would like the us to do. >> and -- >> we want to be in touch with more and more people, carefully kept at bay. not too close, not too far, just right, edited, made with our communications edited, made perfect. goldilocks. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. the clements foundation. park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the herb alpert foundation, supporting organizations whose mission is to promote compassion and creativity in our society. the bernard and audre rapoport foundation. the john d. and catherine

there is an assessment on large moyers over 50 if they don't provide coverage and their workers go to covered california and get subsidies that they have to help cover that. most employers who do provide coverage will continue to do it because that's how they attract and retain the workers. we want to make sure we have a safety net so that all of those workers who don't get coverage now have a place to go to get affordable quality coverage. >> what's the biggest misinformation that you think is out there about covered california? >> i think that people think it's a more radical change than it is. this is the private coverage that people expect and are used to now. you can't be denied for a preexisting condition. you can get financial help to afford it and it's a much easier way to do it. health insurance is not cheap and easy but this will make it cheaper and easier. >> thank you very much. thanks for explaining and it lining it all up. okay. coming up, sure you have to pay for your insurance but you do get many free benefits. coming up on our special, we outline what preventive care

, bill moyers' son. and he starts off by saying, "nothing ennobles a nation more than citizens who shoulder the burdens of war time. nothing degrades a nation more than those who lobby for war while enriching themselves on its spoils. think richard perle. you can't miss him these days." and they go on -- it goes on to describe how you got your book going. and then they go on and criticize people like me who never -- i'll read what he says. "he still has the president's ear, and not one interviewer, not charlie rose, not nbc' matt lauer, not cnn's wolf blitzer has forced him to fully answer the conflict of interest charges." what do you say to the charge that you have a conflict of interest in all this? >> guest: well, the first thing i would say is that if they had troubled themselves to do even minimal research, they would have discovered that after various charges were made about conflicts of interest, the inspector general at the defense department conducted a thorough review that went on for many mon

virginia moyer is the chair of the task force. >> the affordable care act includes a provision that says that any recommendation that receives an a or b grade is paid for first dollar, so no co pay for those recommendations. >> since the passage of the agordable care act, the task force has recommended more than a dozen preventative services. screenings for hiv, cervical cancer and osteoporosis as well as counciling for obesity and tobacco use. people who need preventative services can now get them within their insurance networks fully covered. >> the preventative service is something that is intended to keep something bad from happening. what we do as a task force is, we carefully evaluate the science. the science that tells us whether a preventative service is going to benefit people. >> the idea is that providing preventative services from the outset will save lives and health care dollars on the back end. >> on the surface, patients are going to get all of the services that the task force recommends, either a or b covered in full, with no co pays. that sounds good, i think the proble

. >> this week on "moyers & company" -- that deal between the justice department and jpmorgan chase requiresond look. >> if the justice department were being tough on wall street, they would be talking about bringing criminal cases against individuals who helped to perpetrate this immense crisis. >> and historian peter dreier reveals the radical message of dr. seuss. >> stand up to arbitrary authority and take back your own life and be a fighter for justice and for your own integrity. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. the clements foundation. park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the herb alpert foundation, supporting organizations whose mission is to promote compassion and creativity in our society. the bernard and audre rapoport foundation. the john d. and catherine t. macarthu

. ♪ ♪ >> this week on moyers and company -- is there no limit to the cash the rich can throw at electionssupreme court will decide. >> politicians are always hungry for more money. right now we limit the ways they can get that money. but what mccutcheon wants to do is make it easier for politicians to get that money. >> and -- >> curiosity depends upon your imagining something different from what exists. this radical notion that we aren't bound by everything that we see and that we're told. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. t

. >>> this week on "moyers & company" -- wendell berry, poet and prophet. >> i've been talking for a long time about leadership from the bottom and i'm convinced perfectly that it's happening and that leadership consists of people who simply see something that needs to be done and they start doing it. >> and -- showdown over the shutdown. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. the clements foundation. park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the herb alpert foundation,

. >> pitcher jamie moyer played for eight teams during his 25-year major league career.l of 2012 he became the older pitcher to win a major league game. ross shimabuku asked about him his longevity. >> good genes. i stayed healthy. and i had a passion for the game. >> in your new book you talk about how 40s is the new 20s, so to speak. >> early in my career i was quite green, and upon meeting harvey, and learning about the mental side of the game. we all know in athletic there's a lot of physical to the activity, but it's actually the mental side and how you think, what you do, and the direction you want to go. >> is that more the maturity of a player? >> for me it was a maturity thing, and being accountable to yourself, and harvey was a good teacher of that, and he challenged you in many ways tried to get you moving forward. >> moving forward what kind of advice would you give the players these days. >> be passionate, be accountable, but you have got to work. nobody is going to give you anything. i tell that to my boys. you have to work. to done -- debt indicate yoursel

site where people can go on and buy something like health insurance does not bode well for the much moyerplicated elements of this law that are yet to be rolled out. >> actually, i talked with a computer expert who says the enrollment online experience isn't related to the rest of obamacare, but he says the enrollment form is so simple he can't figure out how to the government spent $200 million on it already, 5,000 man hours at $200 an hour, and computer programmers don't usually make that kind of money. meanwhile, republicans are going after kathleen send peelus, one calling for thor resign. house republicans wanted her to testify before a committee hearing this week. she says she is available next week. we see if the hearing is delayed to allow her to testify then. >> wendell, thank you very much. >> let's get more now. the president of familiar.com, company that analyzes servers. these aren't -- >> they're not. i think clearly something went terribly wrong, and the launch was botched. this happens a lot. on webses that we use. we see that happen when there's a big event, like super bo

>> this week on "moyers & company" -- that deal between the justice department and jpmorgan chase requires a second look. >> if the justice department were being tough on wall street, they would be talking about bringing criminal cases against individuals who helped to perpetrate this immense crisis. >> and historian peter dreier reveals the radical message of dr. seuss. >> stand up to arbitrary authority and take back your own life and be a fighter for justice and for your own integrity. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. independent production fund, with support from the partridge foundation, a john and polly guth charitable fund. the clements foundation. park foundation, dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. the herb alpert foundation, supporting organizations whose mission is to promote compassion and creativity in our society. the bernard and audre rapoport foundation. the john d. and catherine t. ma

. ♪ >> this week on moyers and company -- is there no limit to the cash the rich can throw at electionsthe supreme court will decide. >> politicians are always hungry for more money. right now we limit the ways they can get that money. but what mccutcheon wants to do is make it easier for politicians to get that money. >> and -- >> curiosity depends upon your imagining something different from what exists. this radical notion that we aren't bound by everything that we see and that we're told. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world.

. >> attorney dan moyer. >> chairman conyers and members of the committee, thank you for staying with us on behalf of the sexual violence and the crisis centers throughout the nation. and for the coalition against greek i would like to thank you for this opportunity and i have been walking around the organization saying i feel like chicken little because i keep saying the sky is falling and nobody else seems to get it. but i think the sky is falling and we really need to act now. and my esteemed colleagues on this panel -- the fact that mauney america doesn't care what justice anymore breaks my heart. it really does. and the people here that are doing the work that comes from our founding fathers work on the constitution that we all swear to defend and we all pledge allegiance to but lets me get real and get the budget done so that we can all go back to work. >> on behalf of all of my colleagues on the judiciary committee, we thank you for the incredible response. we think we have a record now that can make clearer the crisis that is going to affect the justice system and the judicial

among the stories from the washington times this morning, david moyer saying the president did not facilitatea shutdown. that was based on the comments of white house secretary jay carney in a briefing. here is more from the president as he spoke to reporters from the rose garden earlier in the afternoon. >> the shutdown is not about deficits and budgets. rolling back our efforts to provide health insurance to folks who do not have it. it is all about rolling back the affordable care act. this, more than anything else, seems to be what the republican party stands for these days. that one is strange party would make keeping people uninsured the centerpiece of their agenda. but that apparently is what it is. thats stranger still is shutting down our government does not accomplish their stated goal. the affordable care act is a law that passed the house. it passed the senate. the supreme court ruled a constitutional. it was a central issue in last year's election. it is settled, and it is here to stay. and because of its funding sources, it is not impacted by a government shutdown. with meerican