and nobody would ever say that daniel patrick moynihan was a raving right-winger. but he was a thoughtful man and his looking at this objectively. and at the time as a young staffer in the department of labor, what he saw startled him and gave him pause and he wrote about it and warned the consequences of a growing level of out of wedlock births saying that 25% was shocking to him. how chocolatey be fine 75% of african-american births are out of wedlock? and across the board among all demographic groups, 41% of all american live births are now out of wedlock births. again, forget one's position on the political spectrum. this is a concern because there are economic consequences for those children. i'd like to think people on the right are just as interested in limiting poverty as people on the left. but the reality of eliminating poverty comes down to simply putting more money in a government program, does not address the root issue, which is that mothers and fathers are the most important form of a government. i also want to mention that i think we sometimes forge

>> back in the 19 0's, daniel patrick moynihan used to say that the tax fetishism was about money they could spend, starve the beast. that's a good part of the rationale. the problem with it is that 80% of the american public loves medicare, 80% of the american public loves social security. chris: everyone who is on it loves it. >> they also had a president bush, who spent like crazy. all it does is it gives the government the ability to borrow the money. chris: if you starve the government by not taxing people, they'll spends less. you made a good point and i do agree with it. the best government is not just we want to screw the rich, but in you don't tax the rich -- if you don't tax the rich, you've got to cut medicare. no one wants to give up medicare, which they fought so hard to get it for old people. >> cameron has exempted all health care spending. in other words, he'd rather raise taxes and preserve health care than do the opposite. chris: do you think it's the best democrat argument for raising taxes for the rich and otherwise you have to cut health care? >> how much of the pr

we all deserve a toast to happy hour raise your glass and watch as artie's jenny churchill mike moynihan and myself discuss the stories creating a buzz this week we're saving that for the end of our show up first our top story. prices are rising and economic growth is slowing down here in the u.s. the five big oil companies are raking in the dough this week they released their first quarter. nicks and exxon mobil the largest oil company in the country reported a ten point seven billion dollars profit just in the first three months of this year that's a jump of sixty nine percent from the same time in two thousand and ten chevron the second largest oil company didn't do so bad themselves reporting profits of six point two billion up thirty six percent from last year so you would think that. since the gold profits are reaching near record highs maybe they don't need all those billions of dollars in subsidies from the federal government maybe what the democrats have been trying to push for years cutting from forty eight billion in those subsidies might actually come true if republicans woul

are raising questions about the centrality of the nuclear family that have been going on since the moynihan report in 1965. i agree that we should be welcoming of all different kinds of family structures. i certainly would support gay marriage laws in every country. i think every city -- 80 state -- every state. the hard fact is that single parent households or five-six times poorer than dual parent households. this is just the state of affairs. if we want to try and help these poor children and poor families, we cannot just say they are all equally good. there are real cost to being in a single-parent household. >> i am very sorry for whatever was said here that had that impact. >> i am not sorry for anything we have said. we have had a fascinating conversation. >> that is why you are on the news and i am not. the human element is very important to me, not that you are not human. [laughter] >> i am not even a different race, i am a different species. >> there are so many issues we have all been bringing up. you said something i finally agree with, which is is a very different life. what yo

pat moynihan was mayor and alan greenspan was there, a host of -- dr. stein and dr. whitman. wonderful reputations and gerald ford could not bring himself to fire anybody. he didn't want to do it because he felt it would be a tarnished. >> host: and like him. you wrote a story about how the older president bush went to pci a in 1975. tell us briefly the story? >> guest: what i feel the real story was? >> host: there is the full story of god's truth. >> guest: george herbert walker bush came in 1966. he came in with a wonderful group of people. i knew him and served in congress with him and at some point, ready for the senate and losing and he went to china as a representative and wanted to come back and he told president ford he wanted to come back and serve in an executive position. i was chief of staff of the white house and periodically asked to send in a group of -- director of cia with bill colby wanting to leave with the department of housing and urban development. the staff in the white house would produce these documents of six or eight names and here are the pros and

pat moynihan was there and alan greenspan was there, and george shultz was there. they host of -- dr. stein and dr. whitman, and so many people, wonderful reputations. and gerald ford just could not bring himself to firing anybody. he just didn't want to do it. because he felt it would be a tarnish on their -- >> unlike him. you later in this book, relayed a story about how the elder president bush, george h. w. bush, went to the cia in 1975. do you want to tell us briefly the story and what you feel the real story was? >> what do you mean what i feel the real story was? >> well speed is what the real story was. >> tell the false story and then got screwed. >> gods truth, now you're talking. george herbert walker bush came because i think in 1966. i had been elected in 62. i knew him and served in the congress within. anti-at some point ended up, i think running for the senate. and then he went over to china as our representative. and he wanted to come back. he told rising ford that he wanted to come back and serve in an executive position. and i was chief of staff

. >> host: at the public interest you had some of the people and you also had daniel patrick moynihan i don't know if he was a co-founder of the beginning. >> guest: i think they were all in the first or second issue. jay wilson wrote and my father has a couple of nice memoirs in the book and the essay that he wrote in 2005 and then a little talk about the book, too. and no, it's available free online at the web site of national affairs which is a magazine as you know which was started in 2009 and my father of course called the public interested in 2005 and thought they had done their job and lead others to take over and adam wilson was editing at the last eight or ten years with my father and got a job elsewhere and decided he had a good run. always wanting more so why not in the case of magazines which is likely the case of rock stars or something. but actually i feel that the absence was missed more and various people got together fleck robert george from princeton to say to get a successor started we thought of bringing the public interest back to life, but i thought that was too

. >> host: at the public interest you had college people like daniel bell and moynihan also. >> guest: jim wilson wrote the entire 40 years. my father has a couple memoirs in the book and the last essay he wrote in 2005 and then a little talk he wrote and didn't deliver, but a conference about the conference, and maybe you were there in houston in 2006, and that's in the book, and no, there's -- it's all available free online an the website of national affairs which is a magazine, as you know, that editor which was started in 2009 as a kind of successor of the public interest. he thought they had kind of done their job and was time to let others take over and adam wilson has done a fantastic job editing the last 10 years, and then got a job elsewhere, decided they had a good one. always move them one more, so why not in the case of magazines like in the case of rock stars or something, but actually i think it's absence was missed more than he expected and various people got together to have the foundation, robbie george from princeton and i thought maybe there should be a successor st

. >> michael moynihan director of the 2.0 initiative. with the goal of increasing the resilience of communications, the defense department undertook investments in the internet which ended up achieving those goals and also yielding a very substantial benefits economically, domestically as well as what was intended originally on the communication side. and u.s. companies have gone on to be leaders and the internet has probably played a major role in u.s. leadership in the information technologies. in the case of electricity, we have a situation today where the structure of the industry probably resembles to some extent the old communication system. its centralized attempts to be top-down and it doesn't have that distributional resilience built in. i wonder if anyone could comment on perhaps the parallels of whether it might make sense through these microgrids that the secretary has alluded to and other innovative technologies -- how resilience on the electricity side could end up having economic benefits for u.s. clean energy companies an

the theme is senator daniel moynihan made this phrase.re in title to your own opinion, but not your own facts. many times i hear these folks talking about the fact that we need to drill, drill. actually, oil companies, and i am very familiar with that, use every opportunity to spike the price of gas. for example, libya, is the perfect example. they produced just over 1 million barrels per day, and they certainly do not sell it all to us, and most folks do not realize all you have to do is get on the computer and find the american companies sell over 1 billion barrels per day. tell me why is that the case? i would like to address that. guest: thank you very much. cut it from the state of florida where our economy is so tied to tourism we are very sensitive to the impact of price gouging. it seems like every summer with the summer driving season the prices go up for a gallon of gasoline. why is that happening every summer driving season? our long-term commitment in need for energy in this country is going to have to become more diverse. whi

. >> michael moynihan, in the 20th-century, number of decades ago, with the goal of increasing the resilience of communications, the defense department undertook investments in the internet, which ended of achieving those goals and yielding a very substantial benefit, it economically, domestically, as well as what was intended originally on the communications side. u.s. companies have gone on to be leaders and the internet has played a major role in u.s. leadership in information technologies. in the case of electricity, we have a situation where the structure of the industry probably resembles, to some extent, the old communications system. it is centralized and tested the top down. it does not have the distributional resilience built in. i thought perhaps you could comment on the parallels, whether it would make sense through these micro-grids that the secretary has alluded to, and other innovative technologies, how resilience on the electricity side could end up having economic benefits for u.s. clean energy companies and others. thank you. >> that is, of course, the promise. the other thi

pat moynihan was there and alan greenspan and george shultz and a host of dr. stein and dr. wittman and so many people of wonderful reputations and gerald ford couldn't bring himself to fire anybody. he didn't want to do it because he felt it would be a tarnished. >> you later kristen the book of the story of how fielder president george h. w. bush went to the cia in 1975. you want to tell us the story and when you feel the real story was? >> what do you mean what i feel real story was? [laughter] >> tell the full story and then god's troup? [laughter] >> george herbert walker bush came to congress i think in 1966. i had been elected in 62 and he came with a wonderful group of people and i knew him and served in the congress with him and he at some point in the debris think running for the senate and losing and then he went over to china as a representative and he wanted to come back and he told president ford he wanted to come back and serve the executive position and i was chief of staff in the white house and periodically i would be asked by the president to send a group

pat moynihan was there and alan greenspan and george shultz and a host of dr. stein and dr. wittman and so many people of wonderful reputations and gerald ford couldn't bring himself to fire anybody. he didn't want to do it because he felt it would be a tarnished. >> you later kristen the book of the story of how fielder president george h. w. bush went to the cia in 1975. you want to tell us the story and when you feel the real story was? >> what do you mean what i feel real story was? [laughter] >> tell the full story and then god's troup? [laughter] >> george herbert walker bush came to congress i think in 1966. i had been elected in 62 and he came with a wonderful group of people and i knew him and served in the congress with him and he at some point in the debris think running for the senate and losing and then he went over to china as a representative and he wanted to come back and he told president ford he wanted to come back and serve the executive position and i was chief of staff in the white house and periodically i would be asked by the president to send a group

. >> michael moynihan, director of the initiative. in the 20th century a number of decades ago with the goal of increasing the resilience of communitiesications the defense department undertook investments in the internet which ended up achieving those goals and also yielding very substantial benefits economically domestically as well as what was intended originally on the communications side. and u.s. companies have gone on that he wants be leaders and the internet is probably played a major role in u.s. leadership in information technologies. in the case of electric, we have a situation today where the structure of the industry probably resembles that he wants some extent the old communication system. it's centralized tends that he wants be top down and doesn't have that distributional resilience built in. i wonder if anyone could comment on perhaps the parallels of whether it might make sense through these microgrids that secretary's alluded that he wants and other innovative technologies how resilience on the electricity side coul

are raising questions about the centrality of the nuclear family that have been going on since the moynihan report in 1965. i agree that we should be welcoming of all different kinds of family structures. i certainly would support gay marriage laws in every country. i think every city -- 80 state -- every state. the hard fact is that single parent households or five-six times poorer than dual parent households. this is just the state of affairs. if we want to try and help these poor children and poor families, we cannot just say they are all equally good. there are real cost to being in a single-parent household. >> i am very sorry for whatever was said here that had that impact. >> i am not sorry for anything we have said. we have had a fascinating conversation. >> that is why you are on the news and i am not. the human element is very important to me, not that you are not human. [laughter] >> i am not even a different race, i am a different species. >> there are so many issues we have all been bringing up. you said something i finally agree with, which is is a very different life. what yo

on that score, i have always agreed with our former colleague, the late senator pat moynihan, who saidthat -- quote -- "people are entitled to their own opinions, but they're not entitled to their own facts." well, last week, our distinguished colleague, the junior senator from arizona, stood here on the floor of the senate and stated that abortion -- quote -- "is well over 90% of what planned parenthood does." end quote. he stated it right here on the senate floor, by the junior senator from arizona. of course that is grossly inaccurate. planned parenthood spends the overwhelming majority of its resources keeping women healthy and preventing the need for abortion in the first place. the fact, the fact, the fact is that just 3% of planned parenthood services are related to abortion. when news organizations ask the office of the senator from arizona for evidence of his claim, a spokesperson bizarrely stated, and i quote -- "his remark was not intended to be a factual statement." end quote. well, what was it intended to be? madam president, the floor of the senate is not a place for dest

are raising questions about the centrality of the nuclear family that have been going on since the moynihan report in 1965. i agree that we should be welcoming of all different kinds of family structures. i certainly would support gay marriage laws in every country. i think every city -- 80 state -- every state. the hard fact ishat single parent households or five-six times poorer than dual parent households. this is just the state of affairs. if we want to try and help these poor children and poor families, we cannot just say they are all equally good. there are real cost to being in a single-parent household. >> i am very sorry for whatever was said here that had that impact. >> i am not sorry for anything we have said. we have had a fascinating conversation. >> that is why youre on the news and i am not. the human element is very important to me, not thayou are not human. [laughter] >> i am not even a different race, i am a different species. >> there are so many issues we have all been bringing up. you said something i finally agree with, which is is a very different life. what you were

several democratic senators including, i remember, senator bradley, i believe senator nunn, senator moynihanined in the request that there be an independent counsel. also, of course, as mr. harris just said, president clinton in the end himself asked for the appointment of an independent counsel. so i think the original appointment was very much justified. >> and, again, the what if, people who think that ken starr was an irresponsible prosecutor who led a politicized investigation or, at a minimum, just lost his sense of proportion, say, well, if a professional prosecutor like bob fisk was in there, this never would have been pursued, specifically the morphing of this case from a controversy about real estate and political influencing to investigation of what president clinton did or did not do and whether he testified truthfully or untruthfully about monica lewinsky. is that true? would you have stopped this case from morphing from, just to oversimplify it perhaps, stop this case from morphing to a real estate case to a sex case? >> that's the easy question. [laughter] >> well, let me put