to slightly different picture is emerging we are hearing from the country's former prime minister mr abdul actually agree that the lines of communication has been opened and that they are hoping to intensify them they say that they are talking with the british the french and the americans to reach some kind of neutral settlement that would see the stopping of killings of civilians now we are hearing the same line coming out of london it has confirmed that in recent weeks it has been meeting in private with several high ranking libyan officials we know that just on the greens day mohammed ismail who is a trusted aide of the duffy sound was in london he was trying to organize what we understand some kind of an exit strategy for the gadhafi family that landed insisting that any kind of deal any kind of settlement plan would have to include himself stepping down we're hearing from doctors on the front line and some of the most recent later it strikes at least seven civilians were killed they were all children three of them were girls from the same family you know what we've been told in what w

with british officials despite the fact that they say they will not grant him immunity and then mr abdul salam tricky he's also a former foreign minister of libya he was also an ambassador to the united nations where he served a term as president of the general assembly has also announced his departure now there can be no doubt that this is a psychological blow to the gadhafi regime certainly what we're hearing from london is that the regime is on the verge of crumbling but here in tripoli the government has actually laughed off these kind of suggestions of defections when questioned about what is the depiction of the foreign minister the country's spokesperson mr mousavi put him said that this was an old man he was exhausted he was suffering from diabetes and he actually approached the government for a leave of absence in which he could seek treatment would not mr receiver him say that they have granted the foreign minister this and he went so fast to say that if the prime minister returns he will be welcomed back now when we questioned him about rumors we are hearing of at least anothe

mr. koussa now being debriefed by britain's spy agency mi-6. then ali abdul salemtreki who was recently named libya's new ambassador to the u.n., he announced from cairo today that he too has left the regime. and tonight there are signs that others are following suit. here's what john ray from our british affiliate itv news is hearing in tripoli. >> reporter: there are rumors swirling that four more named ministers including the europe minister and the head of intelligence are also on the point of departure. now, the government spokesman here says any of those figures who are overseas can't tell us which are away on official business. but the problem is that denial is it's exactly what they told us about mr. koussa last night long after he'd got on that plane to britain. >> the "independent" newspaper also reporting that up to ten member of the gadhafi regime are currently in talks with the british government about wanting to defect. it's the guardian newspaper that reported one of britain's most trusted aides was recently in britain for confidential talks. i