mr. bollard saying this could be a great deal for us. >> allan, data, it's almost as if it's providing the solid foundation upon which the scaffolding of the stock market is growing. >> definitely. liz: talking about the adp number. it is the private jobs creation number that comes out as a precursor to tomorrow's jobs report. allan, 250,000 jobs added in the month of september versus the estimate of 190,000. that's a nice beat. >> yeah, very much a positive, but we have seen this month and month and month again for the period of the last seven or eight years. i'm going disagree a little bit with phil that the economy hasn't been held back if you focus on the stock market, we keep score. the stock market performed pretty well over the last eight years, we're on another push higher and i think it's going to continue. what i like what we've seen here today, i thought today was a big day not because of the 25 k but the vix was going to make new lows. the fear factor making new lows gives it a boost to the stock market, so we have more downside in the vix, meaning we have more upside in stocks