mr. bannon: i can run a little hot on occasion. [laughter] mr. nnon: it is low-key, but it is determination. the thing that i respect most is reince is always steady. you got -- he has got katie and some other people. his job is by far one of the toughest ones i have seen in my life. to make it run every day, you only see the surface. what is going on, to the degree we are planning with all this legislation, and what is the tax reform bill. reince says, we have got to drive this forward. by the way, this started back in august. when we started this campaign, we were outgunned, outmanned, and outstaffed. president trump had a message and his charisma and he had people here at cpac. reince has been unwavering since the very first moment. mark: it is a great honor to have you both here. i think the best thing we could do is to let these two guys get back to work. what do you think? thanks for being here. >> thank you. [applause] >> our coverage of the three of cpac begins tomorrow with donald trump, his third appearance at the conference and his firs

mr. bannon: i think the same thing.f you look at the minds of work, the three verticals or three buckets. the first is national security or sovereignty. the second line of work is what i refer to as economic nationalism and that is wilbur ross and commerce, steve mnuchin in treasury, p navarro, steven miller, these people rethinking how we are going to reconstruct our trade arrangements around the world. the third, broadly, minor work, deconstruction of the administrative states, and if you -- [applause] mr. bannon: i think the three most important things, one of the most pivotal moments in modern american history was his immediate withdrawal from tpp. that got us out of a trade deal and let our sovereignty come back to ourselves pure the mainstream media do not get this, but we work in consultation with the hill and with bilateral relationships, bilateral trading relationships with people that will reposition america in the world as a fair trading nation, and start to bring jobs, high value-added manufacturing jobs bac

mr. bannon: by the way, president mr. nnon: more openly, hold us accountable for what we promised, and delivering on what we promised. we close this as out, you have been no goodbye kumbaya, it is time for a group hug. you have worked really closely with steve. what do you like the most about him? [laughter] mr. priebus: i love how many callers -- collars he wears. interesting look. one thing, we are different. that heery similar in is very dogged in making sure that every day the promises that president trump has made are the promises we are working on every day, number one. number two, he is incredibly loyal. number three, which i think is a really important quality, as we are working together to see to it that president trump's vision is enacted is he is extremely consistent. as you can imagine, there are many things hitting the president's year and desk every day. things that want to move them off the agenda. steve is very consistent and loyal to the agenda. presence that is very important to have in the white house. [

mr. bannon: there is a lot that have happened in the first 30 days. mr. priebus: a lot. mr. bannon: you look at our world order and some of the things that are going on that i think will be dealt with soon, but the first thing i think is neil gorsuch. for a couple things. number one, we are not talking about a change over a four year period. we are talking abut a change of potentially 40 years of law. number but more important than one. that, more important, it establishes trust, it established that president trump is a man of his word. we always knew that, but when he said, here is 20 names on a piece of paper back in july, remember, he says, i'm going to

mr. bannon's wife, "got up to feed their twins and mr. bannon got upset with her for making some noise." this part is hard to read here in the police report. i think it says "at approximately 0845 hours" although depending on how you read that handwriting, see it could be 0815 hours. in any case, it's some time after 8:00 in the morning he, mr. bannon, started to leave the house and his wife asked him for the american express card so she could go grocery shopping. he said she did not need the american express card and that she should just write a check. she then -- excuse me "he then went out to the car, she followed. she asked him why he was playing these games with the money, he said it was his money and then outside in the driveway the two of them argued." apparently the way it went down is she was sit standing in the driveway, he was sitting in his car and they were arguing. continuing from the police report "he reached up to her from the driver's seat of his car and grabbed her left wrist. he pulled her down as if he was trying to pul

mr. bannon has led us to believe or for that matter, his boss, president trump has led us to believe. look at how much friction the republicans party trying to get rid of obama call. they cannot agree on a tax over haul of what it can look look like. the idea is just a little bit hard to swallow at this point. >> lets spend a moment here talking about the organization, c-pack, they are going to dominate a lot of the news coverage. tonight on and into tomorrow's news cycle and the weekend. a lot of time and attention devoted today having now swung over to trumpism, are they like that friend of yours spending time in london and coming back with an accent? >> the c-pac audience based on what the majority politics of the time are particularly in the conservative move. . several years ago, you would see more of a tea party flavor to cpac, now you have a lot of support for the president. people tend to see the president as a war shock test. it is kind of like are the things he's done, things you approve of in life. >> some will point to his nomination of gorsuch to be associate of justice s

mr. bannon and mr.riebus needs some amendment, so i don't really understand what it is he's talking about. >> let me ask you this, do you have it on some authority that the president signed an executive order, which has got to be one of the most important things that a president ever does giving bannon a seat on the national security counsel, which is one of the most important organizations in the entirety of the national security apparatus in the united states. sfle said he was not satisfied with the level he briefing he received prior to signing it. if you look at the way the administration particularly white house press secretary sean spicer has spoken about in this public he portrayed this as a minor change. as you recall, when we wrote one of the first stories about bannon being elevated to the principles committee on the nsc, we were told by spicer this was entirely in keeping with what else had been done in the past and that having for instance the head of the cia and the joint chiefs not on that

i think it is maybe not the trump administration, but mr stephen bannon, the special adviser of trumphat the influence is of mr bannon on mr trump, what i see is what mr trump is saying. that's more important. his quotes are very clear. so are yours. i hope to be clear. that is the reason i am in politics. normally you have the politics or politicians maybe here, who are trying to escape the question. i, in my statements, try never to escape the question. yes, let's think about your choice of words. it makes it boring, maybe. it makes it fascinating. your choice of words. my view, you say, is we have a third front that is now undermining the eu and that third front is now donald trump. exactly. it is a word i am coming back to, hostility. you are downright hostile to what you're seeing. i am not saying... i'm not hostile. i am only seeing and i am only hearing what mr trump is saying. you are using the language of warfare. 0k, let me explain maybe. i think we have first of all the threat to europe by radical, political islam, jihadists. secondly, i think we have a threat by putin, an

mr. bannon perhaps looking or the at the policies. so he tried to bring calm and take complete charge of it. >> that's a big question. up next, rick santorum, the correspondent for the daily beast who has interviewed general mcmaster and our senior political analyst. let me start with you. you know lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster. what do you think? >> i think he is a stabilizing pick. as he smart guy. strategic. he is forward thinking. i think the big issue for him will be whether he can wrap his arms around an extraordinarily dysfunctional process. as barbara alluded to, whether he can establish a degree of trust with the president himself and push back against some of the crazy and chaos coming out of this white house. of interest, h.r. mcmaster's book really talks a lot about how the white house at the time of the vietnam war was too insular. >> you've interviewed general mcmasters. general flynn was trump's close adviser. trump trusted him. he had a lot of influence. do you think mcmaster will have the power that flynn did or no

mr bannon has been appointed as a member of the national security council of the us.e... you said something that is happening at a news website. i think it is maybe not the trump administration, but mr stephen bannon, the special adviser of donald trump. we can discuss the influence of mr bannon on mr trump, what i see is what mr trump is saying. crosstalk his quotes have been very clear. so i yours. i hope to be clear. that is why i am in politics. normally you have the politics of politicians may be here who are trying to escape the question. imo statements try never to escape the question. yes, lets think about your choice of words. to escape the question. yes, lets think about your choice of wordsm makes it boring, maybe. it makes it fascinating. my view, you say, is we have a third front undermining the eu and that is donald trump. it is a word i am coming back to, hostility. you are downright hostile to what... iam not you are downright hostile to what... i am not saying i am you are downright hostile to what... iam not saying i am not you are downright hostile

mr. bannon is more than a strategic advisor.nk he's the person that's pulling the strings and to have him be in this kind of meeting, especially the principals meeting where there's supposed to be pre-discussion and also a real sense of respect for dissent and having people in there that are experts as for instance the chairman of the joint chiefs and the intelligence people. it depends on the fairness and stature of the national security advisor. i think the questions about how these people all relate to each other is something that's very important and very different from mr. axelrod sitting in occasionally. i think the influence generally of mr. bannon is passing strange, if i may say so, given his background and his approach to national security policy, his admiration for lenon. a number of things that trouble me about him him in these all important national security meetings. >> let me ask you about the policy that comes out of this process. when you look at something like this travel ban, the temporary ban, the seven count

mr. bannon used to run. this is a very serious problem. presidents takes mr. nnon to be his chief strategist and senior counselor. that only that, he just reorganized the national security council gave mr. bannon a permanent seat at the table while removing the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the director of national intelligence. this is at least causes us to wonder about this and question it. do you, you may have answered this earlier. somebody is under criminal investigation, i know that we now have a liaison. tell me how that works. a criminal liaison to try to work with, what happens when you find out some of his in criminal investigation? >> depending on what the criminal investigation is, and the immediate seriousness of the nature, we may immediately contact the requesting agency that is asking for the clearance to give them a heads up this is out there. they may or may not determine at that point they want to terminate the request otherwise we will continue the investigation. the fact that going further down the road, and adjudicator would fa

mr. bannon.ondering what prompted you to go public with your concerns. >> at the time, i don't have to remind you of this, anderson, when just about everything, every institution, every issue is so highly politicized, the purpose of my writing this was really to focus on one of the institutions, at least in my experience, that hasn't been politicized, and that's the national security council. i've watched this. i served on it with president bush and president obama. it wasn't politicized then. karl rove was never anywhere near, david axelrod never had a voice in it. so it's less about mr. bannon himself and more about not politicizing a critical institution in terms of the national security of the united states. >> the white house pushed back that the steve bannon merits being on it at least in part because he served as a naval officer. >> i don't think that background has anything to do with it. knowledge in terms of the national defense isn't a qualifier, necessarily at all. he was a naval offi

mr. bannon? if you were to raise -- if those questions were raised, would anyone go and then say mr. bannon or whoever may have said those kind of things denied them, would then you -- would somebody go back to look to see if those statements were made in the periodicals or whatever and how might that affect the security clearance of that person. do you understand my question? >> i believe i do. if we were faced with an individual who had made statements that appear to be counter to the united states, that would be an issue we would pursue with the subject themselves to start with. to use your exam, if the individual said, i never said that. i don't feel that way. we would use to the best of our ability whatever source we can find to get to a resolution to determine what the truth is, to the extent that we can, so we can give as full a picture as we can to the official that has to make that test. >> if you have discovered that unequivocally that the person had not been honest with you, what affect might that have? >> that would be passed on to the adjudication authority and they would

mr. bannon has actively worked to oppose these values in the past sickens me. the idea that mr. bannon now sits on the principal's committee of the national security council is also troubling. the prospect his alt right views is inexplicable and incuesable. make no mistake, this outrage es at the feet of donald trump who allowed this denial to go out in his name. mr. speaker, i stand here today to say i will not be silent. in the face of cruelty and suffering i will stand with those who refuse to be bystanders. i will join my views with those who courageously ask questions instead of taking orders. mr. speaker, the controversy over the holocaust statement was never just a quibble about words, it's about the memory of six million murdered jews. . denies that its primary purpose was at its core about jews. and if we are to make certain that this never happens again, we cannot erase them from history or allow history to repeat itself. never again. thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the chair recognizes the

mr. bannon, because this is a different structure than we have normally seen. most of the time the national security council keeps politics out of this and focuses strictly on national security. when you start to look at it through a political lens, that gets very troublesome. general mcmaster does not suffer fools lightly, and i am not calling mr. bannon a fool, and he has a certain idea of what he wants to do and he will have to press forward with that. as we know from his conduct and writings as a military officer, he does speak truth to power and that's a quality the president needs right now. >> "the new york times" has an interesting segment. his task now will be to take over a rattled and demoralized apparatus that remains uncertain about its place in the white house given the foreign policy interests of bannon, former breitbart news chairman, who is the president's chief strategist. morale, when it comes about what the president said to intelligence agencies and now flynn is out and the next pick said no to the president and now this third pick comes in

mr. bannon used this appearance to continue to attack the media, saying you should not expect the media is going to give back the country without a fight. as if the media were a political party. >> he has said that we are the opposition, the media, and not a political party. in terms of unity among conservatives, we know that the donald trump's approval rating is in the gutter, is that being reflected at all there? >> no, not really. all people i was able to talk to told me they are very happy with president trump and what he is doing so far and the white house because as they put it he is delivering what he promised to in his campaign. what was interesting was that they do not agree on every issue. some people told me that they think the immigration executive orders are too rude. some told me they think the border wall is going to cost too much. others told me they don't think protectionism is the best way to bring jobs back home but at the same time they are happy to see not a politician but president trump in the oval office. that is the mood here at the cpac meeting. >> our corresponde

mr. bannon on, you have to get consent of congress. now, this may not pass, but i think it sends a strong signal the president needs to be more thoughtful and really make sure that the adviser who is are advising on national security are the one who is have national security background. >> senator, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us. senator mark warren. i want to bring my panel back in. what was your take? >> a lost opportunity for president trump. he cou have used this for a time when everything is so hot as an inspirational or unifying moment. if not the national prayer breakfast, when would you do it? he lost an opportunity there. it's clear he constantly wants to be at battle with somebody. he could have taken himself a long way with getting poll numbers up if he took a little time to unite. >> that was more cerebral president trump than we have seen. >> he talked in a softer volume. >> that is a great point. that is a great point. >> stylistically, he asserted he had faith. there are a bunch of contradictions the

mr. bannon and the ideologues are not part of the process. >> donald trump sort of mocked some generals, saying he knew more than a lot of generals did or host of t or most of the generals did, he talked about how they were reduced to rubble. i'm not sure which generals he was talking to. but he is certainly has, as president, decided to surround himself with key generals. >> well, with key generals, and in this case, with someone who really is a great leader. again, both on the battlefield, but also in thinking about strategic affairs, in thinking about our nation's foreign policy and national security strategy. so in their casis case he's rede a very good choice. >> you underscored concerns over isis and north korea. is there one thing you can point to that is the highest priority for general mcmaster coming into the white house in terms of possible crises overseas? or are there just, you know, a whole plateful of stuff? >> you know, there's a plateful, and the inbox gets bigger and bigger and bigger and the world doesn't wait. it starts sending problems and crises your way and you hav

a lot of this we have heard from president trump and it is clear the influence steve bannon has on mr. trump. someone described this as a nationalist call to arms come and all about regaining sovereignty and nationalism. laura: absolutely fascinating. rajini vaidyanathan, thank you so much. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come, how those meant to keep the peace may have done anything but. stories of suc sexual abuse and the central african republic. 83 years old, ruth bader ginsburg is the oldest supreme court justice, but when it comes to retiring, she says she is taking things year by year. she spoke to the bbc at the final dress rehearsal of "dead man walking" at the kennedy center. justice ginsburg: i'm optimistic long run. as a great man once said, the true symbol of the united states is not the bald eagle. it is the pendulum. and when the pendulum swings too far in one direction, it will go back. some terrible things have happened in the united states. but one can only hope that we have learned from those bad things. i would say that we are not experiencing t

mr. bannon? seene best processes i've over the years are ones where ,eople understand their roles where for example president bush 41, who was experienced in foreign policy, new how a system should work. -- knew how i system should work -- a system should work. they debated and disagreed with one another. but it as as systematic a process as i had seen. every situation will be ideal, but that's how the system should work. >> talked about europe and the allies, and uncertainty. brexit and the election in our country, we're seeing a populism. brexit and the election in how does that influence our reactions and what the allies are struggling with? >> it's a very important question, and twofold. there's a russian element in here. quite a long for time been supportive of populist are out movements europe, in the east, in the influencesouth, and western eu. they finance some of those movements, loan money to re-defend national funds, and a variety of other ways which the russians are playing to weaken

mr. bannon. if you look at the people he is surrounding himself, especially on domestic policy, it seems to be anti everything that we have been fighting for and the civil rights groups. i'm hoping that he will be listening to what our voices are and maybe bannon should not be in that room because in his words that's in the past. so, but whether it's health, because, again, you talk about the affordable care act which is tremendously important to people in our districts and also important to people that supported trump, we have to have a real dialogue and how money, the budget, and budget issues and how the budget is -- >> right. >> -- comes about and spent and whether you take from peter to rob paul, what happens there, those are all -- >> you have to come back to where the money's going to come from if you can't pay for the programs and the policies and back up the legislation with resources it is not going to happen. thank you, congressman. >> always good being with you, reverend. >> all right

mr. bannon runs trying to have policy around and above the nfc without trying to get input. that is not a good recipe for good sound policy. undermining the e.u. really runs counter to 70 years of american foreign policy, and there's a good reason the e.u. was constructed in the first place, and that was because he extreme nationalism led to world war ii, and the europeans after the war wanted to insure that there would be peace. the countries would want be fighting each other. instead, they would be cooperating, trading with each other. that led to the birth of the european union. the direction mr. bannon wants is a recipe for going back to the conflicts of the 20th century, not the peace. >> it's really interesting. you have a vice president of the united states talking to nato, reassuring them, talking about the e.u. you have the secretary of defense telling iraqis, you know, we're not there to take your oil. essentially, you know, saying different things than the president of the united states is saying. it's a strange position for the vice president and even the secreta

mr. bannon, his chief strategist, to attend all national security council meetings. and then to be a formal member committee,cipal cabinet secretaries who meet on security issues. soledad: why the concern? john: the concern is they only address national security issues, military, defense, intelligence, foreign-policy issues. presidents have historically tried to divorce political concerns from that at all. they want to signal that they are only making decisions in national security based on the for policy of the national security of the country, so it is a break from tradition. soledad: you said what is needed at the nsc is going to be a patient, honest broker. do you see that emerging? on top general matches has -- john: general mattis has a lot of experience. ricks tillerson is completely new to government, so he will have to get used to this. general flynn has a lot of military experience but has not participated in these national security council decision-making meetings before. so i think we might see a pretty rocky period. soledad: john bellinger, nice to have

mr. bannon, i tell you what, if president obama had taken some of the people that they opposed so much when he was -- when he came into office and appointed them into a position, the country would have been still in an uproar. freddie in maryland, republican. we have a few minutes left before the house dabbles in. -- gavels in. you are on the air. will fixonald trump it. he always says it and he will do it. democrats can stop doing what they are doing because they are crybabies. one thing i want to talk about that nobody wants to talk about. air force one. when you see the deal that was done about air force one, $4 billion. it took 15 minutes for donald trump to talk to the ceo of boeing for him to come out and say he will bring the cost down. it is what i call corruption at the highest level of the country. host: all right. a couple of yours on twitter, a democrat saying once the government is set up the damage will be done and mark stone saying "if it was a muslim ban, why did not include the other 46 muslim majority countries." a democrat in pennsylvania, hi. caller: i want to mention th

mr. bannon? >> the best processes i've seen over the years are ones where people understand their roles, where, for example, president bush 41, who was experienced in foreign policy, new how a system aould work, put in place system for a national security adviser and a range of principles who understood their roles. they debated, disagreed with one another, but it was a systematic a process as i had seen. they were dealing with some of the most consequential events that we have seen in the past few years. not every system is going to be ideal but that's how the system , should work. >> we talked about europe and the allies, and uncertainty. after brexit and the election in our country, we're seeing a populist rebellion, nationalist influences in a number of countries. how does that influence reactions and what the allies are struggling with? >> it's a very important question, and twofold. there's a russian element in here. russians have for quite a long time been supportive of populist nationalis

mr. bannon, his chief strategist, to attend all national security council meetings. and then to be a formal member committee,cipal cabinet secretaries who meet on security issues. soledad: why the concern? john: the concern is they only address national security issues, military, defense, intelligence, foreign-policy issues. presidents have historically tried to divorce political concerns from that at all. they want to signal that they are only making decisions in national security based on the for policy of the national security of the country, so it is a break from tradition. soledad: you said what is needed at the nsc is going to be a patient, honest broker. do you see that emerging? on top general matches has -- john: general mattis has a lot of experience. ricks tillerson is completely new to government, so he will have to get used to this. general flynn has a lot of military experience but has not participated in these national security council decision-making meetings before. so i think we might see a pretty rocky period. soledad: john bellinger, nice to have

mr. bannon had to say today? what caught your eye? >> reporter: well, it was really him laying out his world view. jake, as you noted we all had a good sense of what it was coming into the white house, but nobody has really spoken to him at least publicly on a stage like this since he's been there. and kind of spoiler alert, nothing's really changed in his world view. i think this is why it's an extremely interesting moment, extremely interesting development because you recognize steve bannon one of president trump's closest advisors and today he laid out the three pillars of this white house as he sees them. economic nationalism, sovereignty and the, quote, dee construction of the administrative state. sounds familiar to what he said before he was in the white house. his top line point, jake, there's been a lot of debate whether to take trump seriously. it's the latter. take a listen. >> with the promises he made, our job every day is to execute on that, it's to simply get a path to how those are executed. his focused on that. all of

mr. bannon, mr. kushner and mr. priebus, so i can't read minds who is primarily responsible for this but that doesn't matter. .. that's the washington game of who are we going to blame? i think anyone who looks at this knows it could have been and should have been done better. we just see people with green cards being denied entry that this department happen the right way. so if you do have that name and you have read my mind, john, you say it. >> i don't have it but i do have a commercial i have to go to. governor, thank you so much for being with us. >> john, happy to be on. you have a good super bowl sunday. >> dickerson: you too. >> i don't know. $6.95 per trade? uhhh- and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $6.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, a

mr. bannon. he calls himself an economic nationalist. when you hear about -- how about this. when europeans hear that, what do they hear? >> they feel uncertain about our trade relationships. they saw that we abandoned the problem right now. all this business with vladimir putin is very disturbing to all of us. to equate vladimir putin and the united states of america, as he was asked, you know, i guess -- he said putin is a killer, and he basically said well, so are we. that moral equivalency is a contradiction of everything the united states has stood for in the 20th and 21st century. >> many members of congress seem to want to get involved in an investigation into what role did russia play in the 2016 election. >> there are so many questions out there that we first of all need to understand the parameters of what's happened here. and so i would -- i would hold off and wait and see what happens. one thing that you and i know from being around this -- being around washington, there's probably going to be some more shoes to drop. >> that's -- that's true. but let me a republi

mr. bannon remains the president's dominant adviser despite mr. trump's anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed, giving his chief strategist a seat on the national security council. a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban. there's a lot to unpack in that sentence there. but if that reporting is correct, does it give you pause, first of all, that maybe the president wasn't briefed on what he was signing? secondly, this idea that steve bannon should be in those meetings? what do you make of that? >> well, the first point is a procedural one but a very worrying one. and we ought to hope that the documents going in front of the president, and they seem to be moving at lightning speed these days, are, in fact, being well staffed and well absorbed by the president. let's hope this is an anomaly or a misreporting. we'll know moshgs i suspect, in the future. on the substance, i'd really direct your readers to an extraordinary op-ed in "the new york times" today by admira

mr. bannon's lack of government experience and his extreme cecilia vega, abc news, the white house. >> and new overnight, whom land security secretary john kelley has revealed the timetable for the controversial border wall with mexico. general kelly joined texas governor greg abbott for a tour of the texas, mexico border and counselly tells fox news he wants that wall finished within two years. the secretary and governor abbott discussed border security and trade with mexico. kelly met with state and federal law enforcement agents. >>> the widow of the pulse nightclub killer will remain in federal custody. a judge ordered a psychiatric evaluation of norah salmon before deciding what she can be set free. prosecutors say salmon knew her husband was watching an isis videos leading up to the attacking that left 49 people dead and 53 others injured. her lawyers insist she had no advance knowledge of that shooting. >>> and engine trouble forcing this jumbo jet to make an emergency landing in one of the most remote parts of canada. to los angeles landing at this airport near greenland. a malfunc