mr. blumenthal was advising you? >> he wasn't advising me. mr. chairman -- >> did he know he was your most prolific e-mailer that we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi? >> that's because i didn't do most of my work about libya on e-mail. >> that's fair. i'm not challenging that, madam secretary. i am not challenging that. all i'm telling you is that documents show he was your most prolific e-mailer on libya and benghazi. and did the president, the same white house that said "you can't hire him" did he know he was advising you? >> he was not advising me and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> all right. i want to draw your attention to an e-mail about libya from mr. blumenthal to you dated april 20 2011 and it will be exhibit 67. "this is informative. shall we pass this on -- then in pa parentheticals, unidentified -- to the white house?" why would wow take that off? >> a lot of information i reviewed over the yours you often don't have the source of if intelligence. you look at the i

mr. blumenthal was advising you? >> he wasn't advising me. mr. chairman -- >> did he know he was your most prolific e-mailer that we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi? >> that's because i didn't do most of my work about libya on e-mail. >> that's fair. i'm not challenging that, madam secretary. i am not challenging that. all i'm telling you is that documents show he was your most prolific e-mailer on libya and benghazi. and did the president, the same white house that said "you can't hire him" did he know he was advising you? >> he was not advising me and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> all right. i want to draw your attention to an e-mail about libya from mr. blumenthal to you dated april 20 2011 and it will be exhibit 67. "this is informative. shall we pass this on -- then in pa parentheticals, unidentified -- to the white house?" why would wow take that off? >> a lot of information i reviewed over the yours you often don't have the source of if intelligence. you look at the i

mr. blumenthal sent me every week. that was a special friend. >> it was information that had been shared with him that he forwarded on. and as someone who got the vast majority of the information that i acted on from official channels, i read a lot of articles, that brought new ideas to my attention. and occasionally people including him and others would give me ideas. they all went into the same process to be evaluated. >> yes, ma'am. i will tell you that the record we received today does not reflect that it simply doesn't. we have read emails. we read everything we could get our hands on, taken us a long time to get it. you just described all this other information that you relied upon and it doesn't comport with the record that this committee has been able to establish today. i want you to take a look to the chart in the left. see increasing number of requests, over 600. i think data matters. pictures are a lot. increase in the requests, bottom line is increase in the security. you notice slope of those two lines ar

mr. blumenthal and american people and complete record. se his transcript where he gives the context. >> you refer to blumenthal e-mails and i haften to tell you the only reason we have çó blumenthal. they are secretary of state e-mails. they are not blumenthal and she wanted all of her e-mails and saying since march. i want the entire world to see blumenthal's e-mails are part of that. the parlimitarian to theed me the motion is not in order for a hearing but at the latest we'll take a vote and the first week we are back be. take up the transcripts you want and while we are there take up the 20 outstanding discovery request that we have to different executive branch. >> mr. chairman, allegations made against him are refoughted. >> that is your opinionxd adam. >> if you disagree. release the transcript. >> what allegation. >> why conceal the transcript. you have the power to release. >> i tell you why, i am not releasing one transcript of someone who does not know anything about libya while people who risk their lives. you don't want the 18

mr. blumenthal was, quoting again, one of the folks providing her the largest volume of information about libya. secretary clinton, was sidney blumenthal your primary adviser or your primary intelligence officer? >> no, of course not. >> was he the primary source of information you were receiving on libya? >> no, absolutely not. >> can you tell us then who were you receiving information from and in what form? because there's been a particular emphasis on e-mail communication and e-mail communication only. >> well, as i testified earlier, i did not primarily conduct business on e-mail with officials in our government. and i think the e-mails that have been produced thus far demonstrate that as well. as i said, i got intelligence briefings from the intelligence community. i had a very experienced group of senior diplomats who knew quite a bit about libya. deputy secretary bill burns had been our nation's top diplomat, who actually had knee gosh aipted with gadhafi prior to the entering in by the united states to support our european allies and arab partners. i sent a team to meet with repre

mr. blumenthal asking him questions about these e-mails. just release the whole transcript. >> what about the point if you want to release the transcript from blumenthal's interview, what about releasing all of the transcripts? >> i've said it over and over again. once -- >> you made it sound like democrats don't want to do it. >> that's not true. i've said it many times. i said it this weekend on one of the national sunday shows. release all of them. i have seen -- and take out the appropriate redactions, you know, for security reasons and, you know, whatever the cia, others, may have concerns about. but release them all. there's nothing to hide. i want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i do believe republicans don't want people to see the blumenthal transcript -- >> why is that? tell us what's in there -- >> we've already issued press releases about the types of questions that are asked. about the foundation. about -- that is the clinton foundation. a lot of questions that have absolutely nothing to do with benghazi. al

mr. blumenthal was advising you? >> he wasn't advising me. mr. chairman -- >> did he know he was your most prolific e-mailer that we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi? >> that's because i didn't do most of my work on libya on e-mailing. >> i'm not challenging that, madam secretary. i'm not challenging that. all i'm telling you is the documents show he was your most prolific e-mailer on libya and benghazi. my question to you is did the president, the same white house that said you can't handle -- can't hire him, did he know that he was advising you? >> he was not advising me. and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> i want to draw your attention to an e-mail about libya from mr. blumenthal to you dated april 2011. it would be exhibit 67. this is informative. should we pass on, in parentheticals, unidentified to the white house. if you were going to pass something on to the white house, why take off the identifiers? >> because it was important to evaluate the information and from a lot

mr. blumenthal sent every week. that's a special friend. >> well, it was information that had been shared with him that he forwarded on. as someone who got the vast majority of the information that i acted on from official channels, i read a lot of articles that brought new ideas to my attention and occasionally, people including him and others would give me ideas. they all went into the same process to be evaluated. >> i will tell you the record we have received to date does not reflect that. it simply doesn't. we read the e-mails, we read everything we could get our hands on. it has taken us a long time to get it. you just described all this other information you relied upon and it doesn't comport with the record this committee has been able to establish. take a look at this chart to the left. you will see the increasing number of requests, over 600. i think data matters. the pictures are worth a lot. you see the increase in the requests and the bottom line is the increase in security. you will note the slope of t

mr. blumenthal. >> mr. blumenthal had some e-mails you that didn't. >> before you give mr. from blumenthal -- >> here's another blumenthal e-mail. >> blumenthal's e-mails. >> mr. blumenthal's e-mails. >> mr. blumenthal's what now? sidney blumenthal has hillary clinton's e-mail address and he sometimes sends her e-mails. everyone freak out. for the 99.9999% of people who live in the normal world, blumenthal is about as real and threatening of a figure as charlie brown's pumpkin. he covered bill clinton's run for arkansas and he covered the administration in the second term and he worked for hillary clinton when she ran for president in 2008 and clearly he remains a friend of the clintons today. when you have been a friend of the clintons for a long time, and you have been through wars together, you have been partisan wars and the wars of impeachment and personal scandal and dynasty, when you have been with them that long, you become part of the clinton story, through thick and thin, for past and for probably future. for republicans that week at the mammoth benghazi hearing, w

mr. blumenthal's released. nt the survivor's released, the only one you asked for is sidney blumenthal, that one and miss mills. >> that's not true. >> that's two out of 54. you want to ask for some facts-- >> a recorded vote on the blumenthal. you said from the beginning, we want the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth. why don't we put the entire transcript out there and let the world see it. what do you have to hide? >> these only e-mails you have released in. the fairness to mr. blumenthal and the american people in the interest of a complete record if you're going to release his e-mails and release the transcript where he has the chance to give the context of the e-mails. >> you keep referring to the blumenthal e-mails i'd hasten to remind you, the only reason we have the blumenthal e-mails is because they were sent to the secretary of state. that's why they were released. they're not blumenthal e-mails. she's said since march, i want my e-mails released and sidney blumenthal's e-mails were pa

mr. blumenthal. >> mr. blumenthal had some e-mails you that didn't. >> before you give mr. it -- >> this is an e-mail from bluman that'll -- >> here's another blumenthal e-mail. >> blumenthal's e-mails. >> mr. blumenthal's e-mails. >> mr. blumenthal's sidney bloomenthal has secretary clinton's e-mail address and sent her e-mails. everybody freak out! for the 99.9999% of the people who live in the normal world, sidney bloomenthal is about the threatening a figure as charlie brown's great pumpkin. he's a real person and first met bill and hillary clinton in the '80s. he joined the bill clinton presidential administration in the second term. he worked for hillary clinton when she ran for president in 2008. and clearly mr. bloomenthal remains a friend of the clintons today. when you have been a friend of the clintons for a long time and you have been through wars together, through partisan wars and the war of imimpeachment and the wars of personal scandal and the wars of ideology and dynasty, when you've been with them that long, you become part of the clinton story. through thi

mr. blumenthal was advising you? >> he wasn't advising me. mr. chairman -- >> did he know he was your most prolific e-mailer that we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi? >> that's because i didn't do most of my work about libya on e-mail. >> that's fair. i'm not challenging that, madam secretary. i am not challenging that. all i'm telling you is that documents show he was your most prolific e-mailer on libya and benghazi. and did the president, the same white house that said "you can't hire him" did he know he was advising you? >> he was not advising me and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> all right. i want to draw your attention to an e-mail about libya from mr. blumenthal to you dated april 20 2011 and it will be exhibit 67. "this is informative. shall we pass this on -- then in pa parentheticals, unidentified -- to the white house?" why would wow take that off? >> a lot of information i reviewed over the yours you often don't have the source of if intelligence. you look at the i

mr. blumenthal: mr. president, i ask that the quorum call be lifted. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. blumenthal: thank you, mr. president. by voice vote, this body has extended the highway funding program, which is a good thing, and it has also included in that extension a delay in the deadline for positive train control, which was inevitable. none of us opposed a delay in positive train control. what we opposed was an extension of that delay with inadequate accountability and excessive time. this delay in positive train control, let's be absolutely clear, is really a delay until 2020 -- not 2018, because when railroads hit 2018, they can apply for two more years, and that second extension is dependent only on having completed work on half the system, and much of that determination is within the control of the railroad itself. that will be the 50th anniversary of the ntsb calling for positive train control. we're not talking here about a novel, untested technology. in fact, five

mr. blumenthal: mr.sident, reserving the right to object, i respect deeply and in fact support the arguments made by my colleague from florida. there are goals here to be served and i strongly support them as well. accountability has been lacking for too long at the department of veterans affairs. that's a simple fact. we can all agree on it. and in fact, we took a major step in the right direction with the passage of the access and accountability act during the last session with bipartisan support. and i would support this measure if a number of simple changes were made in it to comply with the constitution. this measure lacks some of the basic constitutional guarantees that again and again and again the supreme court of the united states has said are absolutely mandatory. this bill unfortunately fails to provide sufficient notice in advance of any firing or disciplinary action, a statement of causes, a right to be heard and an opportunity for basic administrative constitutional guarantees. and i commit

blumenthal. and you say that mr. bloom ee e blumenthal was a friend of yours and he had your personal e-mail address. you say chris stevens was a personal friend of yours. he asked numerous times for personal protection. i think anybody out there watching this would agree. if i had been mr. stevens and i had had a relationship with you, and i had requested 20 or more times for additional security to protect not only my life but the people that were there with me, i would have gotten in touch with you some way. i would have let you know that i was in danger, and that the situation had deteriorated to a point, i needed you to do something. he didn't have your personal e-mail? >> congressman, i do tnot beliee that he had my personal e-mail. he had the e-mail and he had the direct line to everybody that he had worked with for years. he had been posted with officials in the state department. they had gone through difficult, challenging, dangerous assignments together. he was in constant contact with people. yes, he and the

mr. blumenthal was a friend of yours and had your personal e-mail address. you say chris stevens was a friend of yours. times forumerous extra protection. did he have your personal e-mail? sec. clinton: congressman, i do not believe that he had my personal e-mail. he had the e-mail and the direct line to everybody that he worked with for years. john: that was congressman-- tip, republicans have hours and poke and prod at hillary clinton. did they report or charged anything that was genuinely or relevantly new about benghazi today? mark: a little bit, something that no american i know cares about, which is her relationship with cindy blumenthal. beforeevents in benghazi security in olivia, during the evening of september 11 that year and afterward, they plowed a lot of familiar ground. on the e-mails, they also largely plowed familiar ground. there is some a nuanced new stuff, but nothing that will breakthrough for the american people as a smoking gun, brand-new information that we're hungry to know more about. john: i have to say, the obsession with cindy bl

mr. blumenthal. it goes directly to the security issue. we see now the former secretary relied on mr. enthal for most of her intelligence. she was relying -- >> that is factually not correct. >> that is correct. >> relied on mr. blumenthal for most of her intelligence? >> ms. mitchell, look at the e-mails trails. you will see. >> i cover the state department. that is factually not correct. i'm as tough on this issue as anyone. >> alex, quickly. >> since this is about benghazi and four lives that were lost under hillary clinton's watch, what should she have done to prevent the loss of those four lives? what should she have done before and when they actually were threatened? should she have done more? >> let me talk to before. the arb from tanzania made it very clear that the secretary of state was supposed to personally review security at high-threat areas. that is not hand it down to a deputy or an undersecretary or anyone else. that arb in the late 1990s said the secretary of state, himself or herself, was supposed to take responsibility and personally review those security plans. it

mr. blumenthal's transcript and other transcripts and while we're there we can take up the 20 some odd outstanding requests. why don't we take it up then? >> mr. chairman, the allegations that have been made against him are refuted by his own testimony, in the interest of not having -- >> that's your opinion, adam. >> if you disagree, release the transcripts. >> what allegation? >> why conceal the transcripts? even if the motion were not in order, you have to power to release them. >> i'll tell you why, because i'm not going to release one transcript of someone who knows nothing of libya by his own admission while people who risk their lives -- you have no interest in their story getting out. you don't want the 18 ds agents, you don't want the cia agents. the only transcripts you want released from ms. mills and sidney blumenthal's. so we'll take all of this in november. >> the only person you are interested in asking about during her entire questioning were sidney blumenthal. if you're so interested in him, release the transcript. you released his e-mails, they're the only witness. so you're aski

mr. blumenthal's e-mail released. you want them all released? e only one you asked for is sidney blumenthal. that and ms. mills. >> that is not true. liz: and secretary clinton sat there, she did not have to say a word during all of that. there are some republicans upset about that, they feel that was a tangent, a sideshow when the issue should be the woman on the screen and her involvement when it came to what was going on with the security that did not hold up in benghazi on the night of september 11th of 2012. we're going to keep our eye on the hearing. closing bell is 19 minute away. heck of a rally. up 319 points on the dow jones industrials on much heavier than expected volume. there is a lot of trading going on, if you are invested in the market, you're making money. speaking of money, time to pay up on the bets that vice president joe biden would run for president. on this show, days ago, those two guys on the screen made a bet as to whether biden would or wouldn't run. biden is out? we'll tell you who won the bet, goodstein and barnes up

mr. blumenthal had had those. this man who provided you so much information on libya had access in ways that senior diplomat had to you and your person. i had a picture up here. you didn't recognize who he was. were you briefed that he was present at the compound the night that ambassador stevens was killed? >> we're trying to track down the basis of your question, congressman. we have no information at this time. >> my question is a yes or no question. it's pretty simple. >> i don't have any information that i can provide to you yes or no. i know nothing about this it. >> the question is were you briefed? and the answer is? >> we don't know anything about it so how could i have been briefed about something i know nothing about. >> are all arbs created equal? >> well, there have been 19, including the one that we empanelled after benghazi. they have all been led by distinguished americans. they have all been set up in accordance with the laws and ru rules that the congress established when they created the legisla

mr. blumenthal's transcript released? the survivors, their names, you want that released? you something -- >> the only one you've asked for is sidney blumenthal, that and mills. >> cheryl mills. >> that's not true. >> you want to ask -- >> ask for a recorded vote on blumenthal. you said from the beginning you want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. why don't we just put the entire transcript out there and let the world see it. what do you have to hide? >> these are the only e-mails you have released. and in fairness to mr. blumenthal and american people in the interest of a complete record if you're going to release his e-mails, release his transcript where he has the chance to give the context of those e-mails. >> well, you keep referring to blumenthal e-mails. i would hasten to remind both of you the only reason we have blumenthal e-mails is because he e-mailed the secretary of state. those are her e-mails. that's why they were released. they're not blumenthal's e-mails. and she wanted all of her e-mails released -- >> the blumenthal e-mails, lesser kn

mr. blumenthal. if you missed 15 you should have given us, you gave us 1250 that the national archive say you never should have turned over. you erred on both sides. you might have made more mistakes, we don't know. >> well, first of all, you had nine hours with one of my attorneys, and since i think the democrats just finally released the transcript -- >> i specifically asked miss mills, i did, i asked her about this. she gave me basically the same answer you're giving me. >> she'll be happy to supplement it. >> she's not on the witness stand today. you are. >> i asked my attorneys to do it. i thought that was the appropriate way to proceed. >> let me do one other statement. i hope we'll know the terms. the american people would like to know what terms you used so we can find out what happened these four americans gave their lives. >> your server was located on the property protected by the secret service. there was one server on your property in new york and a second server hosted by a colorado com

mr. blumenthal was, and i'm quoting again, one of the folks provided for her the largest volume of information about libya. was sidney blumenthal your primary policy advisor or your primary intelligence officer? ms. clinton: of course not. was he the primary source of information you were receiving on libya? ms. clinton: no. ms. sanchez: who were you receiving information from and what form? there has been a specific emphasis on e-mail communication only. ms. clinton: as i testified earlier, i did not primarily conduct business on e-mails with officials in our government and i think the e-mails that have been produced this far have demonstrated that as well. as i said, i got intelligence briefings from the intelligence community. i had a very experienced group of senior diplomats who knew quite a bit about libya. the deputy secretary bill burns had been our nation's capital diplomat who it actually negotiated with gadhafi. prior to entering in by the united states to support our european allies and arab partners, i sent a team to meet with representatives of gadhafi to see if there were some w

mr. blumenthal's transcript released?> i would like to have all of them released. >> there has been focus on the obama administration narrative that an internet video is to blame. used clinton's e-mails to go after that issue. >> one hour after he told the american people you say two officers were killed by an al qaeda like group. shelley american people one thing and your family an entirely different story. >> clinton later said the video still was a factor in the attack, but bottom line, thisline, this was eight weeks to the day before the 2012 presidential election, and he noted that libya was supposed to be a foreign-policy highlight. charles: thank you very much. what is next? what is going to be the ultimate outcome? speaking of politics, what will it mean for hillary's campaign? the video thing, hillary saidthing, hillary said she was informed a day later, so she was mixed up, but we know politics played a big role. although sunday talk shows, she fell on ahis sword for the team and told the same story over and ove

blumenthal. and you say that mr. bloom ee e blumenthal was a friend of yours and he had your personal e-mail address. you say chris stevens was a personal friend of yours. he asked numerous times for personal protection. i think anybody out there watching this would agree. if i had been mr. stevens and i had had a relationship with you, and i had requested 20 or more times for additional security to protect not only my life but the people that were there with me, i would have gotten in touch with you some way. i would have let you know that i was in danger, and that the situation had deteriorated to a point, i needed you to do something. he didn't have your personal e-mail? >> congressman, i do tnot beliee that he had my personal e-mail. he had the e-mail and he had the direct line to everybody that he had worked with for years. he had been posted with officials in the state department. they had gone through difficult, challenging, dangerous assignments together. he was in constant contact with people. yes, he and the

mr. blumenthal's transcript released? >> i would like to have all of them released. >> if you think you've heard about sidney blumenthal so far, wait till the next round. >> more on blumenthal later in the show. as for one point the republicans trying to make that blumenthal had better access to clinton than the deceased ambassador stephens. this tweet from the former american ambassador -- as ambassador of russia, i enjoyed multiple ways of communicating with secretary clinton. e-mail was not one of them. >> the ambassador said he always had constant communication with you but never had your e-mail address. i would hope that ambassadors would have more direct and immediate lines of communication, and ambassador stephens certainly did, correct? >> yes. >> the information that we found out, as you pointed out, was not always flattering. there was no question that mistakes were made and we hopefully learned from them. but that was investigated. so what is the purpose of this committee? >> we'll speak with that former u.s. am

there was an email from mr blumenthal discussing the same situation. do you know who mark tury is. >> no, i don't recall that i know who that is. >> he was a private trafficker in weapons. he was working with mr stephens and attempting to develop an authorisation with the state department so he could, in fact, deliver the weapons into libya. does any of that ring a bell to you? >> no, it does not. >> so you never saw the email from mr stephens to - i think it went to mr sullivan, where he says to mr tury, this is mr stephens says to mr tury "thank you for this information" information about attempts to get authority to ship arms into libya. he says "thank you for this information, i'll keep it in mind and share it with my colleagues in washington" regards chris, actually, regards chris stephens. >> i don't know anything about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document. and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at. >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there as a tab. i'm happy to provide it to you. >> well, it's a little dif

mr. blumenthal was one of her closest advisers on libya. in the end, mrs. clinton's response is probably doing .ittle to win over critics the pointed questions from republicans that she endorsed four hours probably did not convince her supporters that she mishandled the attacks. now to independent caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i voted for obama in 2012. now i am sad that what he did. all of the chaos in the middle east. is and al qaeda in libya. they killed 21 christians on the the kiosk? then after that, he cooperative with saudi arabia. this administration should take them to justice to find out what is going on. now,f them -- what we have how do you fix it? mary is on the line, a democrat. rank you for getting up so early. what is your reaction? caller: good morning. the military, maybe my take away is a little different. she is hillary showed not fit to be commander in chief. she certainly had plenty of information about the dangers, but every time the republican questions would try to figure out why there was no protection, she was sayi

mr. blumenthal's transcript released? >> i would like to have all of the release! >> reporter: elijah cummings calling the continued questioning the political winds tend and said the investigation >> the select committee spent 17 months and $4.7 million of taxpayer money. >> reporter: as for how this could affect clinton's presidential campaign the latest abc news washington post poll found a clear majority of voters disapproving of clinton's handling of benghazi but the same poll also found a majority of voters believe republicans are mainly out to harm clinton politically. live in the newsroom i am kerry drew, back to you. juliet: thanks very much. robert: joining as now is curtis, what did you think of the hearings yesterday and what did they do for presidential aspirations? >> i am not your buddy. juliet: confidant, a friend? >> i tolerate you please let me discuss the great liar, hillary rodham clinton, give her months, weeks to practice allies and she is a professional going back to whitewater, i found the papers, they were under the bed at that i never used

mr. blumenthal: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from connecticut. mr. blumenthal: thank you, madam president. i thank my colleague from alaska for yielding and giving me this opportunity to discuss two measures that ought to be beyond debate or discussion on this floor or anywhere else in america, two issues where americans ought to unite and be together, without controversy or contention. the first relates to the emergency responders who rushed to the rubble of the world trade center in new york in the wake of that who ar horrific attack n america on september 11. i want to join and thank my colleagues from new york, senator schumer who just spoke on the floor, and associate myself completely with his very eloquent and powerful explanation for why this nation must meet its obligation to provide critical health care for those emergency responders -- firemen, police, medical personnel -- who went to that site, even as it continued to smolder with poisonous chemicals and fumes, risking their lives in the face of perils that they little understood and could

mr. blumenthal's transport released. >> i'd like to have them all released. >> the centuriors, even their>> let me tell you something. the only -- >> i've asked for sidney blumenthal. that's the only one you asked for. that and miss mills. >> cheryl mills. >> that's not true. >> i don't know. if you're a voter, ifmój you're- >> i'm a voter. i'm watching espn. how about them mets and i don't care about the mets. >> the average american citizen, i think that what you hear at that point is the sound of shaking heads and washington having an involved battle over the introduction of a transcript into the minutes and channels changing. don't think this is as big a political event as many people thought it might be. >> or hoped it might be. is it your sense this is a big political event and could be mind changing and politically motivating? >> no. i go back to what we talk about earlier. in the middle of oing their i got e-mails from two people who watch politics closely, and one said, wow, this committee ills not the church committee, they're really blowing it. and another guy who said, simply,

mr. blumenthal was advising you? >> he wasn't advising me. >> did he know that he was your most prolific emailers that we have found on the subjects of libya and benghazi. >> that's because i didn't do most of my work about libya on email. >> i'm not challenging that. my question to you is did the president, did he know that he was advising you? >> he was not advising me and i have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that. >> she went on to say that she used some of the emails and memos, took his name off of it and circulated it in intel circles and at the white house. >> most americans don't know who sid blumenthal is we've discussed these very emails. here in the last couple of weeks. we talked about how clear it is that he's a friend, the emails are solicited. there's a back and forth. there's 500 or more of them. she's very encouraging and enthusiastic. he gives her all kinds of advice, disparages other people. it's a free-flowing of information and they're in constant contact. w

mr. blumenthal. an e-mail before that also discussing the same situation. do you know who mark toury is? >> no, i don't recall that i know who that is. >> he was a private trafficker in weapons. he was working with mr. stevens and attempting to develop an authorization with the state department so that he could in fact delivers those weapons into libya. does any of that ring a bell to you? >> no, it does not. >> so you never saw the e-mail that was from mr. stevens to -- i think it went to mr. sullivan. where he says to mr. toury, this is mr. steevz, says to mr. toury, "thank you for this information." it's information about his attempt to get authority to ship arms into libya. he says thank you for this information, i'll keep it in sxhiend share it with my colleagues in washington. regards, chris." actually, regards, chris stevens. >> i don't know big about that specifically. i do know that you're referring to a document, and if you are, could you tell us what tab it's at? >> yes, ma'am. i'm not certain it's in there as a tab but i'm happy to provide it to

mr. blumenthal had e-mails you didn't. the revised statement was after we interviewed him about benghazi and found out we didn't receive from you and the state department the same information we received from him. in march you said it was your practice to e-mail government officials on their dot-gov accounts. you said there was a fraction sent to officials on their personal accounts. >> what does this have to do with what happened in benghazi? when are we going to get there? >> the gentleman is not recognized. the gentleman from ohio controls the time. >> it has everything to do because we want the record to get to the truth. maybe if the gentleman from washington would have shown up for more than one hour of one interview he might know about the record. the revised statement was after this committee had contacted jake sullivan, asking for the personal accounts which you knew would mean we would get their e-mails and that first statement in march was not accurate. in march you said no classified information was sent or rec