mr. epstein: comment, gary? mr. kleck: the one specific and control measure that paul mentions that the brady campaign and other gun control organizations mentioned is a ban on large capacity magazines, the idea being that if the mass shooters had magazines that held no more than 10 rounds, which is the usual cut off, they would hurt fewer people. so, the argument, it is a subtle one, but it is, well, there is no real difference between a guy who has 30 rounds in three separate magazines, each holding 10 rounds, versus a guy who has a single 30 round magazine. it is not the difference in rounds that matters. it is the fact that the guy who has only 10 round magazines, he has to reload more often. so that is why paul keeps citing that one example of gabrielle giffords, someone tackled the shooter while he was reloading. the problem is, a, we do not really know that is what happened. he may well have been struggling with a defective magazine and that is why they were able to tackle him. in other words, it had nothing

mr. epstein: they never called or investigated her. mr. rather: the warren commission and it's staff interviewed 552 witnesses. their testimony takes up these 26 thick volumes. yet the question of whether it interviewed the right witnesses and how it evaluated the testimony it did hear are basic to any decision on well it did its job. for instance, what about the woman who saw two men and a gun in a different window of the school book depository and who never got to tell her story to the commission? mr. cronkite: an attorney for the commission staff has said the commission simply could not hear every single person who had been on the plaza that day. he pointed out that a different woman told investigators her friend had never mentioned seeing any men. nevertheless, among those 552 witnesses who were called by the commission, there were many whose testimony wa considerably less relevant. perhaps the commission should have had the chance to decide whether or not she saw what she says she did. mr. rather: now, long after the report has been o

mr. epstein interviewed is arlen specter, now the district attorney of philadelphia. he was one of the principal investigators of the warren commission in 1964, charged with ascertaining the basic facts of the commission. >> i would say after prosecuting a great many cases, seldom would you find one is persuasive that laws walled was the assassin -- and in fact the lone assassin. we convict people every day here in city hall. at times, the death penalty is imposed. the case does fit together. in separate interviews, we asked epstein and specter to ascertain how badly or well the warren commission performed its report. be ant of the job was to accomplice of the government. men who let their name to report. it would also have two purposes. rumors,ld lay conspiracy theories. is that there is absolutely no foundation for that type of charge. when the president selected the commissioners, he chose men of unblemished reputation and very high standing. the chief justice of the supreme court of the united states would have no reason whatsoever to be expedient for political tr

. >> you read the papers that mr epstein submitted on behalf of the homeowners and the oak h.o.a. and that we submitted on behalf of mr shield. you will see the answers to these questions. he let me to believe he is an expert consultant. he does not build and design. he testifies. and yet being involved in this property for as many years as he says, back to 2005, and in 2017, when disruptive testing was done as part of an overall settlement and discovery in the process, and the case was settled on the basis that money was paid to the pages. if they had any problem with anything, they could repair it. this is where we are today. i don't believe infections. i have you believe in what is in the ground and with what he has seen and what mr santos has testified to and what the d.b.a. found and what the owners of that building have lived with happily and safely for the past 12 years. to reopen this and make a spend more time and money may make him feel good but unfair to the participants in this case and unfair to the homeowners and unfair to the other professionals involved. all of who

mr. epstein interviewed is arlen specter, now district attorney of philadelphia, but in 1964 one of the principal investigators for the warren commission charged with establishing the basic facts of the assassination. mr. specter thinks the commission did its job well and came up with the right answers. >> i would say after having prosecuted a great many cases, that seldom would you ever find the case which was as persuasive that oswald was the assassin and the lone assassin and we convict people in the criminal courts every day here in city hall philadelphia and at times the death penalties are imposed or life imprisonment, so that the case does fit together. >> in separate interviews we asked critic ep sign and investigator specter to discuss issues that must determine how well or badly the warren commission did its work. >> part of the job of the warren commission was restoring confidence in the american government and for this he had to pick seven very respectable men, men who would lend their name and lend to the report. and so the problem was in any seven men he picked of this sort they wou

mr. epstein for the rest of his life. >> reporter: they had a 53-page indictment ready to go. nager who famously palled around with donald trump, president trump, and prince andrew never faced charges. instead, a plea deal was struck. he pled guilty to solicitation of prostitution a. >> he arranged it so he got wk release which meant he had a l valet and a driver to pick him up at the jail and drive him to an office. >> reporter: the former u.s. attorney who approved the deala alexder acosta is president trump's secretary of labor. a labor department spokesperson tells nbc news that the u.s. efattorney's office dded the deal across three d administrations and point that secretary acosta was asked about the plea deal during his confirmation hearing last year. >> prossionals within a prosecutor's office decide that a plea that guarantees that someone goes to jail, that guarantees that someone registered generally and that guarantees other outcomes is a good thing. >> reporter: the former palm beach police chief disagrees. >> i think almost the entire system failed epthem. >> rort

mr. epstein for the remainer of his life. >> reporter: prosecutors had a 53-page filing. donald trump, bill clinton, prince andrew, never faced those serious charges. instead a plea deal was struck. he pleaded guilty to solicitation of prostitution and served 13 months in a county jail. >> he arranged it so he got work release. which meant he had a valet and driver, to pick him up at the jail every day and essentially drive him to an office. >> reporter: the former u.s. attorney who approved the deal, alexander acosta is now president trump's secretary of labor and a possible pick for attorney general. a labor department spokesperson tells nbc news the u.s. attorney's office defended the deal across three administrations and pointed out that secretary acosta was asked about the plea deal during his confirmation hearing last year. >> professionals within a prosecutor's office decide that a plea that guarantees that someone goes to jail, that giern tees that someone register generally and guarantees other outcomes is a good thing. >> reporter: the former palm beach police c