mr. berman, however, because he also won the settlement against exxon in the valdez spill, so i think thatng probably just fine. >> right, yeah. an oil tanker chaser with the business card, right? >> little boats. >> all right. >> our guest host this hour is john cannis, bank united president and chairman. and i want to get into banking. i want to get into your outlook on what's going on in the the world of wall street and finance but given that we are on the cliff, on the precipice, if you will. maybe we're not, depending on how you think about it, maybe the way to start this is to say how do you think about it? >> i thought we'd talk about palladium. i thought it was a dance club. >> yeah, that's right. it was a dance club. >> you were never there. >> i've heard about it. >> your father told you. >> yeah, right. >> my daughter is a lawyer also. but she doesn't -- she doesn't quite make those kinds of money. well, it wouldn't be the first time that washington threw a hail mary pass if this were to get resolved in the next couple days. >> your expectation, though? >> well, a couple days ag