mr galbraith i now come back to you about guns down because you were the former u.n. envoy to it you know what role did nato play there and what good would you say it did. let me before i answer that question i'd just like to add a point here about these this asymmetric. warfare that or approach that russia has now taking i think it's important to emphasize that they've succeeded at it they interfere in the american elections it's very likely that the interference made the difference between donald trump who lost the popular vote by three million or more votes and hillary clinton whom they despised becoming president and what has trumped done he has so confusion he's undermined western leadership he's even threatens the existence of nato it's a huge success for russia and frankly the europeans have no response to this now that's what they need one obviously you can't expect it from an american administration that in fact is likely in office because of russia ok now turning to afghanistan it's important this was the one time the first time that article five was. in an

skype as the breeze former director of policy planning at nato a very warm welcome to all of you mr galbraith let me start with you is that nato is existence in its current form at threat because of the ongoing attacks by the us president. it's hard to say. because you know maybe their whole thing lastly the trump presidency but i think there's i think that there's a question as to whether trump's agenda isn't in fact to destroy nato he talked about how useless nato was in the campaign they wanted to get rid rid of it . well let's look beyond that. he's certainly has an office very likely in office that's result of russian interference in the election and diminishing or getting rid of nato is right at the top of mr. mr mickelson what do you make of that as a member of nato is donald trump out to destroy. i don't believe. think that nato is. the same way in the interest of the united states as it's for european allies and seventy years are the best example of all these alliance to get the stability and security not only in europe but also for the united states i haven't met any of the us both

mr galbraith i now come back to you about guns down because you were the former u.n. envoy to it you know what role did nato play there and what good would you say it did. let me before i answer that question i'd just like to add a point here about these this asymmetric. warfare that or approach that russia has now taking i think it's important to emphasize that they've succeeded at it they interfere in the american elections it's very likely that the interference made the difference between donald trump who lost the popular vote by three million or more votes and hillary clinton whom they despised becoming president and what has trumped done he has so confusion he's undermined western leadership he's even threatens the existence of nato it's a huge success for russia and frankly the europeans have no response to this now that's what they need one obviously you can expect it from an american administration but in fact is likely in office because of russia ok now turning to afghanistan it's important this was the one time the first time that article five was. in an act

mr galbraith i now come back to you about guns down because you were the former u.n. envoy to it you know what role did nato play there and what good would you say it did. i let me before i answer that question i'd just like to add a point here about these this asymmetric. warfare that or approach that russia has now taking i think it's important to emphasize that they've succeeded at it they interfere in the american elections it's very likely that the interference made the difference between donald trump who lost the popular vote by three million or more votes and hillary clinton whom they despised becoming president and what has trumped done he has so confusion he's undermined western leadership he's even threatens the existence of nato it's a huge success for russia and frankly the europeans have no response to this now that's what they need one obviously you can't expect it from an american administration but in fact is likely in office because of russia ok now turning to afghanistan it's important this was the one time the first time that article five was. in an

german voters if this is out of the question mr galbraith does donald trump do you think fundamentally misunderstand not just defense spending but how nature works are these other countries going to give in to pressure from him to increase defense spending and what will he do if they don't. well again i mean i appreciate the optimism of my european friends. and you know that may be the right approach to take it's very very diplomatic but i think it misses the point you have to look at how trump history hit. america's allies look at the g. seven summit in in quebec and the treatment he delivered to the canadian prime minister this is not somebody who values the western alliance this is somebody who who is the great admirer of mr putin again it's quite possible that it was because of mr putin that he sent office in the first place and so. i don't think the issue here is increasing defense spending per se it is a a a a club to be used against an organization that he doesn't believe that now i think made it may well and probably will survive the trump president's presidency but. but but bu