nato as such has not expanded well i think that mr gorbachev there for the last president and the first president of the soviet union even in his memoirs stated quite clearly that this is not how it was perceived at least in russia many perceive that there was an explicit promise that nato would not keep moving towards russian borders and maybe that has been a misunderstanding but rather than arguing about that i want to ask you whether you believe germany has any special overall in solving the issue here in ukraine in helping russia ukraine others to come to certain accommodation or whether you believe this is just a european security issue that has to be handled by all well i don't think in this particular case since one of the basic. and dominating purposes of the european union is to keep the peace that's from that's from where the union idea started after the second world war and so if there is the route to read the relationship to you crean if there. these differences basic differences developed having developed in the eastern thought. it is a european issue and germany is acting

mr. gorbachev was here. was a journalist and he brought up a speech i made to british parliament in 1982 and asked me if what i really was saying was what i said in england, that if the west remained resolute, the soviets would have to at some point deal with its own internal problems and crises, that the tides of history are shifting in favor of the cause of freedom. i believed then and i believe thathat we must consider we are seeing steps in that direction. that hardly means accepting the soviets at face value. what thatcan forget has led to in the past. fdr was quoted as saying during in dealings with stalin 1944, "stalin does not want anything security for his country and i think if i give him everything i possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, he will not try to annex anything and will work with me for a world democracy and peace. " forthere is no room allusion, our guard is up, our watches careful, we shall not be .isled i atmospherics we came to washington with a commonsense message that th

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mr. gorbachev tear down this wall. america at its best stands for literally and figuratively tear it down not build it. [applause] but just to go a little further look at ronald reagan's policy to the soviet union was trust but verify talking to gorbachev during those summits and would say repeatedly mikael gorbachev trust but verify. so much he got sick of it in fact he stood on the stage and told how sick he was of ronald reagan saying trust but verify left but donald trump and his policy towards russia is trust. trust what amir putin not trust the intelligence apparatus. that is remarkable. absolutely astounding that a republican would say this whole business of russians meddling with elections is over because my counterpart denied that. . . . . [inaudible conversations] [applause]

mr. gorbachev. this is about an hour and 15 minutes. >>> we have a great panel and

mr. gorbachev. this is about 1:15. >> we have a great panel. so phillip zelikow is going to chair the panel. i think everybody knows phillip and he's written a terrific book on the end of

mr. gorbachev. this is about 1:15. >> we have a great panel. so phillip zelikow is going to chair the panel. i think

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall.rica at its best stands for literally and figuratively tearing walls down, not building them. and then you have donald trump -- [applause] >> if i can think it just a little further. just look at ronald reagan's policy towards the soviet union, which was trust but verify. what he was talking to gorbachev during the same at summits during the course of reagan's administration come he would say repeatedly geniculate gorbachev, trust but verify. >> so much so that gorbachev got sick of it. gorbachev stood on the stage and talked about how sick he was a ronald reagan say trust but verify. donald trump, his policy towards russia is trust. trust vladimir putin. not trust his own intelligence apparatus. that is remarkable. that is absolutely astounding that the republican would say oh, this whole business about russians meddling with our election is over because my counterpart denied it. think about how -- so that sound you hear is one o'regan rolling in his grave in simi valley, california,.

mr. gorbachev, tear off that wall. and the wall will harm severely the nation. this is a global make.this is the leader of the world, and president trump has to understand that when you elected him, he was not to be just president of the united states. he would become the leader of the world, and that's a huge responsibility upon the shoulders of anybody, and he is not up to that. he has been finding germany, spain, everybody. and but the case is that this decision to building a wall and closing within a wall 3 million -- 350 million u.s. americans, 350 leaders, 350 brains and talents, 350 human beings behind a wall is incredible. absolutely incredible. and when he isolating from the rest of the world, from those who are well mentioned by javier, a world out there that is 90% more consumption terms than the united states. why would he enclose and hold global corporations, u.s. global corporations, u.s. for 500 in four walls and let them out of the markets they have conquered. it's incredible, this nags right after world war ii, decided to go for marks, decided to go global, and so the

mr. gorbachev. this is about an hour and 15 minutes. >>> we have a great panel. and so philip zelikow is going to chair the panel. i think everybody knows philip. he has written a terrific book on the end of the cold war, principal author of 9/11 commission report and many other books. and he is now in the midst of writing a terrific book on sort of decisions for war. and in ways that illuminate old crises and old decisions like going to war in 1898 or wilson's decision for war in world war i. he's sort of brilliantly reassessing these decisions. we're all looking forward to philip's next book. at the same time, he's doing about a dozen other things that none of us can keep track of. sometimes we don't know about. philip, thank you. >> thank you. i actually am sorry to say, we need to wait for james wilson to show up. so he is probably out there somewhere having a good conversation. >> maybe we should send someone out. >> if we can send the search party out. >> so far it's been a great panel. >> it is rather intimidating when you sit next to somebody who can refe

mr. gorbachev. this is about 1:15. >> we have a great panel. so phillip zelikow is going to chair the panel. i think everybody knows phillip and he's written a terrific book on the end of the cold war the bri principal author of the 9/11 commission report and he's writing a book on decisions for war in ways that illuminate old crises and old decisions like going to war in 1898 or wilson going to war, reassessing these decisions so we're looking forward to phillip's next book. at the same time he's doing about a dozen other things none of us can keep track of and sometimes we don't know about. so phillip. thank you. >> thank you. i'm sorry to say we need to wait for james wilson to show up and so he's probably out there somewhere having a good conversation. if we can send the search party out. >> the state department is always late to the table. [ laughter ] >> one of the messages of this. >> so far it's been a great panel. [ laughter ] >> it's rather intimidating when you're sitting next to somebody who can refer to his book. >> we had grandchi

mr. gorbachev and i both agree on the desirability of freer and more extensive personal contact between theates. >> we began to realize that the best way to get a message to a foreign leader was to have the president go in the rose garden and make a statement because everybody was watching cnn. >> cnn was a breakthrough. it changed the whole world. >> it changed quickly. the network news business. that business that we weren't the only ones. and it was hard. you know, it's hard to be on the top little perch and have to come down off it. >> on special segment tonight, the network news. the first in a two-part series on the profound changes taking place in television news. changes being brought about by business, competition and technology. >> there were a variety of reasons why people who worked at the broadcast networks were freaked out in the 1980s. one of them was cnn and the rise of cable. another was being taken over by foreign entities in corporate america. >> new owners spend billions buying the networks recently, and all of them want their money's worth. >> people began to find out t

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. feeling that the party has lost its way. in those that are defending russia intrusion with a legitimate election for the president of the united states of america. the party has lost its way. and that congress legitimately desires to have imposed? especially with section 241? secretary of treasury, secretary of state, director of national intelligence, these oligarchs, the persons who have by way of correction received great fortune. and this was to be used to identify them and have certain restrictions imposed upon them. it has been reported the list was compiled by the appropriate members of the government like the experts and after the compilation took place somebody higher up decided there was a better list that ought to be utilized. there is a suspicion the person higher up resides in your office. can you give clarification mr. secretary? >> i do not know what you are implying in any way. so i will be perfectly clear talking about this at the opening that that we fully complied with the law, there is an extraordinary am