fairwinds associates corporation specializing in environmental nuclear safety and energy issues mr gundersen thanks so much for joining us live here on our team now we're reporting at the moment that there are suggestions that a partial nuclear meltdown is now underway can you explain to us what does that mean exactly. you know what it means is that the nuclear fuel has become brittle and that's evident because of the hydrogen explosions that have occurred that process makes nuclear fuel brittle and the pieces of nuclear fuel inside are about as big as my kinky joint in my pinky bay have all four went into the bottom of the nuclear reactor there are thousands and thousands of those pieces in the center of those pieces is maltin your enim. it's this is not a nuclear chain reaction is not a nuclear bomb this is the radiation left over after the chain reaction has started. this this will go on for several months and the heat got to be removed if you can't ok so it starts with throw up but you say this is not a nuclear bomb but would not the effects be the same as an eclipse bomb if obviously it