we need to see the context in which this whole thing is taking place mr hodder the night he was a commander of the costs of the liberation army and independence on the using terrorist methods and he was also supported by the united states and nato doing effectively dirty work for them to enable them to bomb themselves into cost of all and take control of that region let's be quite clear the largest military base of the united states and europe has been built in castilla since then so mr howe to deny clearly enjoyed protection at the hague and i don't regard the hague simply as a un. you know i mean it is many people regard it as a washington tribunal there are now questions as to why this is this retiled is taking place well some of it is but the guy really. was if you like absolved of any guilt because as you say and no evidence but the reason is essentially intimidation numerous people have been killed in cost of sales of this i think they now want to show that some kind of justice exists and that is why we are having that trial i've seen nineteen nato countries developing the equivalent