mr. rubinstein, the stage is yours. >> so mack, let's start with you. you've been chief of staff at the white house, so when you see all these movies or tv shows that portray the chief of staff of the white house, do they make him handsome enough do you think? [ laughter ] >> some are too tall and too handsome. >> but when you look at them on tv, when you watch various shows, do you think they are reasonably accurate in the way they portray what goes on in the white house or too dramatic? >> david, i think largely it does capture the white house, the ups and downs, the challenges, the fast pace. it is obviously traumatized. i always wished we had a script like "west wing," that would have helped. >> you served as social secretary and as head of protocol. as you heard earlier, "house of cards" adviser. so when they're doing "house of cards," did they call you up and say is this possible, is this accurate? how much input do you have and why are they concerned with accuracy, who cares if it's accurate? >> actually, david, you and mack and i, we were all an