mr. kushner's own contacts. here with more on that story is jenna mclaughlin, intelligence reporter with foreign policy magazine. what's the significance of the fact that the contacts with wikileaks were forwarded to campaign folks including jared kushner? >> well, i mean, the significance of that is jared kushner saw them. he was aware of them and passed them onto hope hicks. we see with kushner he's selective with his words. he may be saying, oh, i didn't communicate, i was just aware of it and possibly forwarded it on. >> now, there's a really key part of this, which is that your reporting suggests that during his capitol hill testimony, he was actually asked about contacts with wikileaks, is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. and in several different sessions, he denied that he or anyone else in the campaign had had any contact with wikileaks or julian assange. >> okay, so i just want to be clear on that, so he repeatedly before congress, and i don't know if ever under oath or not, but before congress repeatedly said, no one in the campaign, nor he, had any contact with julian assange, is that right? >> y