thanks for being with us could these documents actually at the end of the day be able to prove mr miliband sanctioned torture. well good evening and thanks for having me on the first thing to say is that we don't actually know the exact content of these documents but nor of the documents the most important story here what what the important thing is to recognize that whilst the u.k. has a very strong commitment to human rights and a very strong track record of mental torture what we're talking about here is the very difficult circumstance when an individual is detained by a country that is known to use techniques that are palatable to the united kingdom the united kingdom his lawyers and the secret service want to gain information from that person or to interrogate them so mr miliband would have been presented with. a request from the secret services who would have said that this is a difficult case there's a risk that this individual might be exposed to school inhuman or degrading treatment but we would like to interrogate him and they would have said to him relationship we cannot reduce