multiple operations they are on many governments organise many governments so let them investigate mr miller are you expect zimbabweans never mind the international community simply to gloss over all this instead of seeking a detailed accounting of what took place or don't you care or do you simply don't care or don't just sit there on the rose petals which of which mr mandela were in the to in the generals are being throw away i mean i've been threatened with their been fitted with rose petals right now the u.s. including the generals are talking about all way involved in all of this and that actually about so it means muslims are happy with that situation the people that aren't happy you know really you know we're happy on the wonders of it will you know is going to come on to that a little bit but let's talk about the public theater of the last ten days to make up for that or mr mugabe wasn't pushed out in order to bring in democracy now the p.f. had been perfectly happy trashing democracy for thirty five years the thing that brought change was the terrible realisation that mr mugabe was goin

multiple operations the old many governments organise many governments so let them investigate mr miller are you expect zimbabweans never mind the international community simply to gloss over all this instead of seeking a detailed accounting of what took place or don't you care or do you simply don't care or don't you see there on the rose petals which are which mr man under way in the in the generals are being thrown i mean are being fitted with they've been fitted with rose petals right now the u.s. including the general said talking about all way involved in all of this that you're talking about so it means muslims are happy with the situation the people that aren't happy if you are really you know we're happy on the one you're happy with the heroes going to come on to that little bit but let's talk about the public theater of the last ten days to talk about here mr mugabe wasn't pushed out in order to bring in democracy doesn't p.s. have been perfectly happy trashing democracy for thirty five years the thing that brought change was the terrible realisation that was true. he was going to

multiple operations we are all mainly governments organise many governments so let them investigate mr miller are you expect zimbabweans never mind the international community simply to gloss over all this instead of seeking a detailed accounting of what took place or don't you care or do you simply don't care or don't just in the rush of the rose petals which are which mr man under way in the in the generals are being thrown i mean are being threatened with their been fitted with rose petals right now they are heroes including the generals are talking about in all way involved in all of this that they're talking about so it means muslims are happily with the situation the people that aren't happy if you are really you know we're happy or no one is happy with the heroes when we come on to that little bit but let's talk about the public theater of the last ten days to talk about last year mr mugabe was pushed out in order to bring in democracy now the p.f. had been perfectly happy trashing democracy for thirty five years the thing that brought change was the terrible realisation that was true. he

mr. miller, i have known him for a long time. i know he's passionate. i will tell you his view of immigration has never been in the mainstream senate. we are never going to get there a must we brace, -- unless we embrace concepts that cannot possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts i reject as we have too much legal immigration. mr. miller wants to restrict legal immigration at a time when we have a worker shortage. we need more legal immigration. evolved on as pathway to citizenship. want green cards just for computer engineers. if you are out there working in the fields, if you are a construction worker, i want some of those people to have a way to stay here. , iyou are running a business want them to have a chance to get a green card. >> can tell us about the role general kelly has played. >> he's really created a process at the white house that is orderly on immigration. he has a tough position, but he has always said he wants to be fair with the daca population. said tuesday on comprehensive -- tuesday, "i want comprehensive immigration, let's get on with it, don't stop until we get a solution. if he comes back, then we will get a d

multiple operations we are all mainly governments organise many governments so let them investigate mr miller are you expect zimbabweans never mind the international community simply to gloss over all this instead of seeking a detailed accounting of what took place or don't you care or do you simply don't care or don't just say the russians the rose petals which are which mr man under way in the in the generals are being thrown i mean are being threatened with their been fitted with rose petals right now the us including the generals are talking about in all way involved in all of this that you're talking about so it means muslims are happily with the situation the people that aren't happy if you are really you know we're happy on the one you're happy with the heroes when we come on to that little bit but let's talk about the public theater of the last ten days to talk about last year mr mugabe was pushed out in order to bring in democracy now the p.f. had been perfectly happy trashing democracy for thirty five years the thing that brought change was the terrible realisation that was through. he

mr. miller, i have known him for a long time. i know he is passionate. is supporting the president. i will tell you the deal of immigration has never been in the mainstream. we are never going to get this as long as we embrace cannot possibly get 60 votes. concepts i completely reject, we have too much legal immigration. wants to mr. miller restrict legal immigration at shortageave a worker and declining population. we need more legal im cooperation. so mr. miller has evolved on pathway to citizenship, but to for every green card you give opinion. wants to take one ou out of the system i don't want green cards eni near fuss are working out there working and worker.a construction i want some of those foam have a way to stay here. but if you are running a business, you have a worker who is really good, and i want them to have a chance to get a green card. i don't want to be a country in computere of just engineers or high-tech people. >> what role has he played in? i think general kelly ordered the can ios in the white house. i don't know what medal you could give him. at thecreated a process white house on immigration and he has tough decision. said wanted to be

mr. miller. mr. miller is well-known in the senate for having views that are outside the mainstream. 80% of the americanple want the daca population to have a pathway to citizenship and most people want more border security. at the end of the day, if you break it up in two tranches, you're not going to get comprehensive for republicans just for daca. defense spending which drives my train, the military is in a world of hurt, a 30-day cr only exas per rates their problem. i'm not going to vote for a 30-day cr to continue the chaos where we all go home and get beat up by the right and left. we need to find a compromise. >> are you still talking to the president about this? who is? the president's not on board. >> the president's got to decide what he wants for face one. if you don't like graham-durbin, fine. it's a fine proposal. it can be made better. we didn't write the bible. we wrote a proposal based on an outline given to us by kevin mccarthy. the president in our proposal gets his wall funding for fy201. he doesn't get $18 billion but he gets what he asked for in 2018. we limit green cards for to nu

mr. miller, let me start with you. what are we to make of the proverbial monkey wrench that the president threw into the fisa discussion today? >> we've seen that this is a president who is completely disengaged from the running of government. people i know like to say the president tweeted this morning in conflict with his own policy agenda. but i think what we're seeing is the president doesn't really have a policy agenda. the president's purpose of being president is to, you know, kind of live tweet fox and friends, other fox news shows, to attack people, to start fights and to be talked about on television. to the extent he has any real policy agenda, he wants bills to pass. he doesn't really care about the substance of them. you see these examples where this entire controversy over the fisa amendments act, i won't say -- there are people who have serious objections to it but that's not where the president's coming from. it all goes to the president's odd saturday morning tweet when he accused the president of tapping the p

senator graham said steven miller convinced the president to adopt views that are too extreme to negotiate. >> the reason we yanked these things back is mrler -- i have known him for a long time. i know he's passionate and an early supporter of the president. i'll tell you, his view of immigration has never been in the main stream of the senate. we are never going to get there as long as we embrac concepts that cannot possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts i just completely reject is that we have too much legal immigration. mr. miller wants to restrict legal immigration at a time when we have a worker shortage where a declining population, we need more legal immigration. >> a little bit of background here on miller. he was the architect of the white house's first travel ban. he is one of the president's primary speech writers. with me to talk more about this central figure, this survivor from the west wing is cnn special correspondent jamie gangell and with me alex conant, former white house spokesman under george w. bush. great to have you on. jamie, this 32-year-old former senate aide turned influencer -- right? within trump's inne

ar barby tore to everyone. his program he's losing to the animal planet and rerun of "friends." and yet i think it was pretty good for mr. millerly state the situation without any, you know -- lou: do you think it was a. >> i think both of those guys are good. i know stephen miller and i've watched jack tapper for a while. lou: i love that. >> i think cnn is number one in line to get donald trump's award next week for fix news network. they've screwed up so many times and shown such bias. maybe the only show i can watch on the network is jake tapper and he does occasionally hit both ways. but stephen miller is certainly a formidable foe. this was a 15-minute interview. i had it difficult to watch those two going at it as hard as it went. lou: i happen to think miller by the way, i thought he cleaned his clock, just to put it straightforwardly. the other disadvantage is that network takes a book. what is the name of the taf book. >> "fire and fury." lou: doesn't it sound cool? they and msnbc, the various left wing outlets, taking it seriously, like it's a journalistic enterprise, like the author was some sort of bob woodward. an

mr. miller can move their 1940's. you are right in pointing that out.been the main problem, trump has one thing and it is then pulled back by kelly and , who have a more hard lined stance. we continue to see this flip-flop and division. it would be very hard to make a compromise. i wanted to make clear that we show robert mueller, the special councilmen. there are a handful of republican senators voted against the bill on friday. there are a handful of moderate schumer saysaders it is a trump shutdown. think it is time for them to meet in the middle and strike a compromise. thank you, stephanie baker. joining us is the managing director and portfolio manager at pimco europe. always great to speak with you. what do you make of the shutdown? markets have taken this in stride. are they worried, or are they complacent because they think it mel not have fundamentals not. but history would tell us that even if this does take a little bit longer than the video of hope. from a macro-economic perspective, they should not be a major hit to the u.s. economy. forhe

grilled for several hours last week in robert mueller's office point miller and his team are trying to determine if anyone involved with mr. trump coordinated with the russians before the election and whether the presidents decision to part of be a director james comey in may was a destruction of justice. democrats say miller prims -- miller prims independence must be protected.  >> there trying to stop him from doing his job. that is not what america is about. no person is about the law. >> reporter: sessions recused himself from the investigation after it was revealed he met with russian officials and number of times in 2016 while he was u.s. senator and advising the trump team. his recusal and rage the president. some republican members of congress have called for him to resign say he has not done enough to pull back and out of control fbi investigation. white house officials say sessions has the presidents backing. >> the president has confidence in attorney general sessions. as we have said we have cooperated fully in the investigation. >> reporter: sessions announced the justice department will investigate missing

are back with fox news alert. senator lindsey graham taking aim at miller. >> the reason we yank these things back is because mr. he's an early supporter of the president, but i will tell you his view of immigration has never been in the mainstream vicinity and i think we are never going to get there as long as we emigres concepts that cannot get possibly get 60 votes. rob: white house deputy secretary hogan doubling down on those claims telling fox news, quote, as long as senator graham choses legislation that sides with people illegally and unlawfully instead of american citizens, we are going nowhere. he's been outlier for years. the statute of liberty in ellis island back open. carley: democratic new york governor cuomo using state money to reopen popular tourist site, the state will pay $65,000 a day to pay federal employees to operate the site. rob: 65 grand a day. all right, day three of the government shutdown officially entering its first full workday now so it's going to feel a lot more real today. here is a live look at capitol hill where in just a few hours congress will return to try and get everyth

are you saying steve miller? >> the reason we yanked these things back is mr. miller, i've known him for a long time and i know his early support of the president. his mainstream has never been in agreement with the senate, and we're never going to get there as long as we embrace concepts that can't possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts i completely reject is that we have too much legal immigration. mr. miller was to restrict legal immigration at a time when we need more legal immigration. so mr. miller has evolved on a path way to citizenship, but for every green card you give a daca recipient, he wants to take it out of the system. i don't want green cards just for workers. if you're a construction worker, i want. i want someone that's going to help our country a chance to get a green card. i just don't want a future of high-tech people. [ inaudible question ] >> i think general kelly has brought chaos to the white house. i don't know what label you give him, but he's brought disorder to immigration. he's in a tough position, but he always said epd to be

miller. both are hawks on immigration and shot down the deal graham and senator dick durbin brought the president. graham was sharp on miller. >> the reason we yanked these things back is because mr. miller, i've known him for a long time. i know he is an early supporter of the president. his view on immigration has never been in the mainstream in the senate. >> graham said miller is an outlier on immigration, prompting the spokesman to say "graham has been an outlier for years." >> it's almost appalling to me that you have a senator who isn't stepping up, doing the right thing. the fact that he's not part of the conversation to help move the ball forward and is instead attacking individual numbers of the president's staff shows the lengths they are going to blame people for their own failures. sick of the white house defended a tough new immigration add put out by the trump campaign. charges democrats who don't support border security measures will be complicit in crimes, and by illegal aliens. >> democrats who stand in our way we complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. >> press secretary saying that the president's number one priority is the safety of the ame

knows that the accusations are on one guy with the other one on him out in multiple operations the our new many governments organise many governments so let them investigate mr miller iraq do you expect zimbabweans never mind the international community simply to gloss over all this instead of seeking a detailed accounting of what took place or don't you care or don't you simply don't care or don't use the director of the rose petals which are which mr man under way in the in the generals are being thrown i mean i've been fitted with the been fitted with rose petals right now the u.s. including the generals are talking about you always want in all of this that you're talking about so it means mobile is a happy thing with that situation the people that haven't had to you are really good we're happy although what i will tell you what's going to come on to that a little bit but let's talk about the public theater of the last ten days to talk about that here mr mugabe wasn't pushed out in order to bring in democracy now the p.f. had been perfectly happy trashing democracy for thirty five years the thing that brought change was the turbot realisation that this group. he

are you saying steve miller? >> i think the reason we yanked these things back is because mr. miller -- i've known him for a long time, i know he's passionate. i'll tell you, his view of immigration has never been in the mainstream of the senate, and we're never going to get there as long as we embrace concepts that cannot possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts that i just completely reject is that we have too much legal immigration. now, mr. miller wants to restrict legal immigration at a time we have a worker shortage, we're a declining population, we need more legal immigration. so mr. miller has evolved on a pathway to citizenship, but for every green card you give a daca recipient, you take away one. if you're out there working in the fields, if you're a construction worker, i want some of those people to have a way to stay here, because if you're running a business and you have a guest worker who's really good that would add value to our country, i want them to have a chance to get a green card. i just don't want to be a country in the future of just computer enginee

are, in steven miller center. what is the white house's position when you've got other republicans saying mr. president, this is in your hands? >> lindsey graham thinks the president's heart's in the right place. the president of course things the president's heart is in the right place. the president continues to do what miller and kelly tell him to do. i think the situation here is that the president has empowered steven miller. i think what lindsey graham is trying to do is two things, number one, i think he's trying to knock down steven miller. number two, i think he's trying to persuade the president to get off his mark and follow his heart. just one thing i would add to what brett stevens said. he's right about some of those senate democrats worrying about being able to win their races and take control of the senate. for rest of the democrats, the ones who want to take control of the house which looks more likely and those who are hoping to face president trump in 2020, the shutdown politics may actually be good for them. >> my goodness, the situation is surely complicated. thank you al

miller says labour needs to make its position clear. she is accused mr. corbyn of failing to all the government to account. gina miller is still with us, as is anand. corbyn, look at jeremy what are chances he will be the next prime minister and what are the chances of a general election in the next 12 months? gina: i don't think either one of those are going to happen. the conservatives won't vote against their own party. that makes it very difficult. the only scenario in which i see the governmentif comes back with a really bad deal and there's a vote against the deal. that could lead to another election. but i don't think either party is ready for another election. francine: anand? anand: it is hard to predict anything in british politics. the prime minister is probably more secure than people give her credit for. her own mp's don't want to get rid of her yet. they don't want mrs. may to lead them into the next election, but they would like to stay until the brexit process is done. francine: is jeremy corbyn unclear about what he would do in europe because it serves his purpose? gina: the conservatives are in a hard position. labour are also in a difficult position. there are

miller here in berlin. guy johnson is in london. guy: let's talk about the markets. we are 31 minutes into the trading day. what are things looking like? it is all of the commodity. mrdy has already sat down. it is really impacting the equity market. basic resources, we saw iron ore backing up, moving up overnight. what we've got are the miners trading up stronger. that has been the outperforming sector today. personal households and goods looking good. on the other side, we got oil. we are backing away from the 70 line on brent as a result of which, the oil stocks are the worst performer in europe this morning. here's sebastian salek. >> japanese social democratic party is looking for a way -- that is 600 sdp delegates to stop forward coalition talks. sdp leaders predict [indiscernible] young party activists leading campaign to shun policy compromise is going to opposition. britain must pay into the european union if it wants banks to keep flat after brexit. that is the message from emmanuel macron. mccrone made the comment alongside after a daylong summit. firstly, i'm going to be very clear. i'm not here to reward or to punish. i'm here to do the maximum for a mu

mr. miller the trump whisperer as he's supposed to be? >> i think the attacks on steven areredibly inappropriate. steven is a dedicated servant of the american people. he's worked hard in this administration. there's nobody who knows more about this issue than steven miller, so it would be difficult for us to try to sideline steven miller to play indicate lindsey graham. he will continue to play a vital role in our discussions moving forward. stuart: okay. one last one for you. do you think that -- now, the president, he wants to go to davos this week. but my understanding is he won't go if the government is still shut down. is that accurate? >> it's not my decision to make. obviously, stuart, but logistically it becomes more and more difficult that the government is shut down. several cabinet members who are intending to be there and as this continues to drag on be find more difficult ways for the president also. stuart: when do we get to 60 votes and how do we get that? because we have to eventually. what's it going to take to get to 60? >> stuart, democrats have put thems

extent do you coordinate programs and are there similar programs operated by dol and va that absolutely need to be operated separately? would you address that, mr. miller? >> well, congressman, of course as i stated in my testimony, or oral statement, we do a collaborative effort very much so with the va, with hud, with fema, with other organizations, as well as the interagency on homelessness but when a grant ee for an hvrp program is as -- puts forth an application, one of the things that they have to have in an application is a strategy of how they're going to work with agencies such as the va and hud and overcome housing and health care needs of the individual. we use things such as va supportive services for veterans families. that's encouraged the grant per diem program, hud's veterans housing program, that was mentioned or continuing of care. in addition to the -- you mentioned about the federal level. but we also work with states and local levels to do that as well as our grantees. we provided about $45 million for grantees all over the country, nationwide in both rural and urban settings, for about 155 grantees all over the country and we also