a deep again but image mr mudd if i may interject here i think this is a very interesting observation i think it's also very true but i would point to what lies at the root of. jihadist sentiment toward the west is not on cultural separation but primarily in this the sounds of and just as the sense of an indignity the bloodshed the suffering that western countries brought into many arab society i'm sure they were driven by good intentions the west always things that it's doing the right thing but i think what matters to the afflicted country is not the intentions but the actual result don't you think that russia has the reason to be concerned at the same kind of do gooding would be visited upon it by the western countries i'm in i see an enormous difference here between the two situations. you wouldn't deepen this bullying too much more the needed because the. if we saw a problem that exists between us. and it is the ukrainian problem probably all of these differences can be watered down little birdie little reste or ring come on now bertie that existed years ago so i don't think that

welcome back to worlds apart with julie on them other former prime minister of italy mr mudd just before the break we were talking about the law being influenced by a political considerations internationally but obviously it also happens in the domestic landscape we have a major issue with independent judiciary here in russia but it also seems to be increasingly an issue in other european countries like for example poland or ukraine and those countries rhetorical it least have long embraced the western way is that really an issue of valleys why do you think it's so difficult to insulate politics and the judiciary. in the domestic context as it is a constitutional law scholar i find it very much understandable that if two units of communities in the notion of the concentration of power prevail upon the notion of division of words because the communist regime was babies did for money i mean they had him over the and take it out of economy. you see the size of ours when i was discussing with. the oprah ration that was necessary for these news to and into the european union building market o

a deep a gap but it made mr mudd if i may interject here i think this is a very interesting observation i think it's also very true but i would point to what lies at the root of. jihadist sentiment toward the west is not some cultural separation but primarily in this the sounds of and just as the sense of an indignity the bloodshed the suffering that western countries brought in too many arab society i'm sure they were driven by good intentions there was always things that it's doing the right thing but i think what matters to the afflicted country is not the intentions but the actual result don't you think that russia has the reason to be concerned at the same kind of do gooding would be visited upon it by the western countries i'm in i see an enormous difference here between the two situations. you wouldn't deepen these pull into much more the needed because if we saw a problem that exists between us. and it is the ukrainian problem probably all of these differences can be watered down little birdie little reste or ring the common now bertie that existed years ago so i don't think tha