talking about, you know, how are the packers going to play in wisconsin in january, it's so cold, therefore there's no climate change or global warming. again, as mr. mann just said, we still have winter. it still gets cold in wisconsin. but, yeah, this is part of a larger movement, sort of anti-science. a recent poll came out, fewer and fewer conservatives believe in evolution. these are the people who said the polling from 2012 wasn't going to be accurate, mitt romney was going to win in a landslide. so we're seeing the big money effort, the political effort, and the media effort, rush limbaugh repeating this over and over, no matter how dopey it is. yes, we still have winter >> but it has been successful, sam, in creating this world. drudge has been incredibly powerful, i think, in this. drudge has a thing about climate hoaxism. and he has been leading the charge. >> part of -- all they have to do, right, is add a question. and that is the strategy, the same strategy the tobacco industry had when it came to the dangers of tobacco. >> and it worked for 30 years. they delayed about -- >> because that's all you really need. is there a question? is