mr. palmer replied -- to which he replied in the frank terms that one would expect. this was then made public. the venezuelan government used that an as excuse that was intervention in venezuelan affairs, and he wasn't fit. >> phil gunson is a freelance reporter based in caracas, we thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> translator: first, in addition to the arms for personal use, that have been spread throughout. in addition to the values of associated with violence, these are the things that we need to disassociate ourselves with. we talked about drug trafficking, we talking about about alcoholism. it's not just a question of having alcohol, i also live that according to the poet. i lived through that phase. but it's one thing to enjoy yourself, spend some leisure time with your family, and having a drink, and it's a different matter when you see total excesses, massive consumption of alcohol on the streets, and i must congratulate one of the mayors from the opposition matter in miranda who issued a decree banning the sale of alc