somebody who has known the ring sing for seven against against after the regime so mr pompei o c s i on these policy objectives major policy right at the largest state sponsor of terrorism does acknowledge my view when where and i think that for that reason alone. he had to be removed at some point in the place where by the secretary of state with an ideology more in line with what a but what about north korea it was only last week the south korean leader came that invitation from the north saying let's get together and talk is it bad news as far as my pompei as concerned as it is he'll for dialogue with the north. no i think that might prompt a oh i mean listen the president so you sit down with the north korean dictator and he said that he would. work to use utmost to achieve peace with the north koreans i will model except that they have. no nuclear capabilities we're not making any concessions in my campaign or thinks likewise in you know you can argue and i think we could cause that president trump strong stance against the north korean dictatorship is what brought them to the t

dispute within the gulf cooperation council but i go back to my earlier point if as the president says mr pompei o and mr trump have the same thought process have the same wavelength in that case i do worry that we'll have a secretary of state who is not capable of telling hard truths to the president and is simply going to be a yes man and going along with the president's instincts whether they are rational instincts or not i hope i'm wrong about that there is certainly a chance that mr pompei o could surprise us as secretary of state but in the meantime i'm going to worry about whether he will actually do the job the secretary of state has to do and that is to give the best possible advice to the president on foreign policy ok thomas countryman thank you very much indeed if you are not as thank you thank you. or might compare his replacement gina has both is set to become the first ever female leader of the cia but she could face a tough confirmation hearing in the senate given proselytisation is she oversaw the torture of detainees that's eco hane reports from washington. gina has spent most

what it does seem as if mr pompei o could be a more effective mouthpiece for the president which is very important the difficulty is what is coming out of the mouth which takes us back to policy so for example very soon we're going to be dealing with a new peace plan for the middle east i think it's coming on in the next few days or being well quite how that is going to work and how it's going to be negotiated especially after the jerusalem announcement and all the other developments that have been happening in the last month or two is anybody's guess and it is something of course which is very close to the political and economic heart of europe as well how we're going to engage with that particular plan is. is moot very difficult to see how we can make progress going forward of course we have to wait for the details of the plan to come out but by all accounts it's going to be a very very difficult up you'll struggle going forward on that and well on korea of course there are the e.u. is not part of the initiative we i think the e.u. nobody wishes it well we hope it works well but just o

process of confirmation and there are clearly going to be questions raised in the confirmation hearing mr pompei about russian collusion in trying to underscore his difference of opinion with mr trump to try to drive a wedge between them so the focus is going to be off of north korea it's going to be on domestic politics and we know the north korea issue is very very dicey you have to do a lot of diplomacy it's not just the meeting if you're going to have an agreement what are the substance how do you verify it you know what are the exit strategies all of those things take people who have been in the system for a long time because this issue was nuclear armed north korea's been around for twenty some years and you need people with that kind of experience to do what is almost here inside of people and she has a usable within seven when it says let me ask you this why do you think president trump has taken what is a very risky course of action at this particular juncture when he's he's got my pump a is imposed and he is you pointed out is every much is prepared to be with him as mr to the someone

first ever summit meeting between the sitting american president and a member of the kim family mr pompei a husband much more hawkish towards north korea. well he's been in the national security field both cia obviously going back to his distinguished record in the army and at west point in the security business on capitol hill so he naturally focuses on hard national security i think he also though a doubt so i mean he is a successful politician i just visited wichita a few months ago his home base and he's well loved there because he can reach reach across the aisle he can reach out to people and he understands how to connect and i think kill it out well i think the state department career foreign service officers have been hoping for a reset and they're finally going to get on with my pump aoe. it's interesting that mr trump is making so much of the fact that he. might pump get each other so much on the same wavelength we have seen we have seen this movie before. steve bought and of course very much on mr trump's a wavelength. and now he is out so these things don't last that long. it'

place to look at i also would comment that i think there are a couple of places of vulnerability of mr pompei a when he comes for confirmation first there will be hammering on his view of russian involvement in the two thousand and sixteen elections where he's clearly parted company with trump and they'll be an effort to try democrats to make him stake out a position that's at all odds with the white house that could be embarrassing the second thing they'll ask him about is the signature predator drone killings that persist all throughout south asia the middle east are they doing any good is the cia at all involved with providing intelligence to the saudis to help them in their war crimes against yemeni civilians starving millions so those could be very difficult points for his confirmation and with regard to the new cia nominee you know she'll be asked about her participation in zero called black sites a torture this is things that came out in the recent senate torture report that was compiled in two thousand and sixteen only some of which been highly publicized in the second area of her vul

the first ever summit meeting between a sitting american president and a member of the kim family mr pompei or husband much more hawkish towards north korea rex tillerson well he's been in the national security field both cia obviously going back to his distinguished record in the army and at west point in the security business on capitol hill so he naturally focuses on hard national security i think he also though it down i mean he is a successful politician i just visited wichita a few months ago his home base and he's well loved there because this had been hoping for a reset and they're finally going to get on with my pump. as we talk about north korea and we've we've we've had this talk about a mean thing that may or may not happen in may with a new had at the state department with a more hawkish attitude towards north korea do you expect that meeting still to take place especially given the number of gaps that that in the state department at the moment. well i don't see the gaps is really a fundamental problem with stuff in a summit meeting but it's still a fair question and i think we

korea there is the no can confirmed assistant secretary of state for asia pacific and on and on mr pompei always been nominated to be the new secretary of state but he remains to be confirmed and that might turn into a battle and so we have many people who are leaving the administration we have holes that had not been filled and those holes are growing in number at the same time that the president is increasingly giving his attention to the moeller investigation and is growing obviously more aggressive and more angry about that so to me the sort of frame here is the. is this unsettled chaos and new people coming on the job and other people leaving a deadline soon to approach that's one thing in a second thing very briefly is there are some things the president can do on his own for example pull out of the iran agreement and it doesn't matter what anyone says as with the paris climate accord if he wants to pull out well he's going to pull out but when it comes to launching military strikes let's say against iran the agreement falls apart iran starts re enriching bolton advocates for bombin

that mr pump aoe who will be replacing rex tillerson once confirmed she were saying we hope that mr pompei will turn over a new leaf and we'll start toughening up our policies towards russia and indeed this is an interesting point because when donald trump was leaving to go on to marine one he did speak to his relationship with mr pump aoe saying that it was a positive one and someone he could work with. i've worked with my mom failed now for quite some time. prevent this energy from and this is the last you're always on the same wavelength. the relationship has been very good that's what i see that as secretary of state i'm really at a point where we're getting very close to having the capital and other things that i want but i think mike from peo will be a truly great secretary of state i have total confidence in mike mike from fail we have a very similar sort of process i think it's going to go very well and committed to know how to take over the cia as pompei it goes what we know about her but we know she has a similar thought process to mike pompei on one issue and that is it has to t

justified and north korea in the middle of young not sure how old will the end be and i'm i think that mr pompei all will be worse because mr tillotson was asking for a diplomatic way and. asked for meetings and mr pompeo is very clear. with his aggressive strategy i don't think the. young woman will be agree to such a strategy so i see more problems in the future then risk strategy of missed a telephone call to follow in washington as you would expect from from any secretary of state never my one who's only been in post for just over a year still lots of unfinished business syria iraq isis china what sort of secretary of state has rex tillerson they. that's a very difficult question or the answer to this is a bit complicated i think apart from old these areas of foreign policy that you mentioned. that of course is very important for a secretary of state but i think the most important project for rex tillerson was the reform of the state department itself i mean he comes from the private sector and he wanted to apply his experience there to this big bureaucracy and all that is still very much in

well that's right i mean right now we don't have a secretary of state of mr pompei or still running the cia john bolton is not they are a general mcmasters own lame duck i hope picks his communications director left so really there's no one there usually when a president goes and gives a speech just written out ahead of time and everybody clears it this speech just was supposed to be about infrastructure it went all over the map and literally all over the world given the this was i guess what was saying free range donald trump does that mean that there might actually be a space into which the french could inject themselves because obviously the u.s. is not neutral in syria the russians definitely are not neutral in syria the french off more neutral than anyone else perhaps well they have a long history in syria and i think they're respected by all of the players and really what we have to do particularly between united states and turkey is drawing the line in the euphrates river now and i heard the small wanting that two americans were killed in syria i thought if that was the turks tha

in fact there have been rumors for months that this was coming and even rumors to the effect that mr pompei a would succeed till there soon. and even even that might compel you had you had a view on his being if he really what was it what are the qualities then apart from getting on really well with president trump what are the qualities that might come play it has well i don't think it's a matter of qualities i think that trump simply did not get along with tillerson until loosened did not follow trump's policies tillerson was critical of trump's championing of saudi arabia over the blockade of cutter. tillerson has not been favorable to russia in the way that. trump would like him to be. and last summer told their son appears to have called trump. an idiot yeah he's explicitly understand that week. it sounds very much from that statement that we've just read that he is actually contradicting the president we've been hearing from our correspondent in washington that they're saying mr to the sim is informed of his imminent demise on friday this statement is saying that he didn't speak to th

let's talk about those confirmation hearings for a second kimberly what are the chances as far as mr pompei is concerned that people will ask him questions about what donald trump allegedly did not allegedly suits him about the cloning investigation into the allegations of russian collusion. i think that there's a one hundred percent chance that he's going to be asked those questions particularly from some top democrats because certainly this is an ongoing investigation still in the senate we have still two congressional investigations that are underway at the senate level many of those senators who are on those committees will be asking those questions having said that mike pompei who has already been confirmed once by the same body and it's expected that he will be confirmed again but the tough questions will be out there because what these senators are looking for is to get some members of the potentially now secretary of state but members of the administration are on record as they continue this investigation so certainly they are going to be asked those tough questions it will be very

administration could exacerbate the conflict we're looking at a new secretary of state for example mr pompei o who now leads the cia who is very critical of turkey and i think will take an antagonistic tone toward turkey we're looking potentially at a new national security adviser john bolton who has talked openly about arming yet more sunni groups in syria to be there to counter iran and iraq so we're looking potentially with the changes in the troubling ministration even more of violence at least in the short term memory model of right thank you for talking to us now he's nine people have been killed and twenty seven injured after a bomb blast ripped through a police checkpoint in eastern pakistan it happened in the city of the whole while police were changing dogs the checkpoint was outside the annual religious meeting with nearly eighty thousand people gathered pakistan's main taliban group has claimed responsibility for the attack slovakia's prime minister has offered to resign as his party faces growing protests of a corruption of the murder of a journalist robert fico has been under i

relationship between russia and the united states is likely to get worse given that mr tillerson replacement mike pompei o agrees with the cia's assessment the russia did interfere in u.s. elections in twenty sixteen. yeah i agree with you i think mr when you when you ask here people who work for the family and they just say he is a cold warrior he things that russia is not apartment to solve international problems of syria in the ukraine and in other parts of the world. mr peo thinks that russia is the enemy the enemy number one and for that reason i don't think that the rationing ship is going to improve and i think the russians on the stand very well that president trump may still want to improve the russian ship with russia this may still be his aim his goal but on the other hand the russians understand that the mood in congress right now is. not. operative to put it in a nutshell it's not likely that the relationship between russia and. the u.s. is going to improve just because of congress the congress is still. the vast majority of congressman still don't think that. russia is a part market can be

pompei o was it a surprise. to you or is it something that is rather expected. mr thomas there is a been down disagreement between trump and his secretary of state rex tillerson since he was appointed and many people looked upon rex tillerson the former chief executive of exxon as the same allied being voiced within the trumpet ministration he was in favor of maintaining the joint comprehensive plan of action with iran and he's been replaced by pompei of the cia director who is an opponent of strong so you could ask yourself this trump just want a gas man at this particular time or is there something afoot this trump has some plan in the near and one thing that not only does the every year and pompei go as the second city but he's also nominated this year a deputy director for the sake of the cia and feeds already compromised because she's been involved in a lot for dirt and cover up in thailand where you bring up an excellent point that pompei out is in fact a harsh critic of iran's nuclear deal now what consequences can we expect for u.s. policy towards iran are

mr. is deeply disturbing. i would be us now i don't know trump has fired his secretary of state rex tillerson appointing incumbent cia director mike pompei ago to the position instead he announced the surprise way shuffle on twitter a president later explained his decision to reporters saying he and tell us then did not see eye to eye on a number of issues. i've been talking about this for a long time. we got along really well but we disagreed on what you look out to run you know i think it's terrible i guess it was ok i wanted to record something. else a little bit different so we were not really think. we might like something or we have a very similar story from. very well read very good i like rex a lot really appreciate him it doesn't really. help me thinking director over. rumors but to listen was heading for the door has been circulating for months in the news with reports of disagreements with the president rex tillerson will remain in the job until the end of the month the millionaire businessman will then effectively step away from politics on t.v. coast on of his more now on my pump a.o. the new face of american diplomacy and a

let's do it your way mr president and so slowly that's what we're seeing happening the president said a number of times that he wants to just do away with the with it revenge and pompei that supports that the president also has very strong support among the gulf monarchies against iran and certainly among the israelis and so i think that he thinks that this is the right thing to do i think it is bad news because really to be successful you need to hear all alternative viewpoints and donald trump is not going to get alternative viewpoints he doesn't want them he doesn't listen to them and i think that's the mark of a failing presidency rex tillerson will remain in office until the end of this month and event will effectively step away from politics are to use it you got it done off has more on my pump aoe the new face of american diplomacy and a successor at the cia. hawks nesting in washington my ponytail the new diplomats in chief of the iron fist to lead america's state department has had the president under his spell for a while already the to see eye to eye on normal instead of rethink the issue that sunk to listen diplomatic career trump and pompei all share com

let's do it your way mr president and so slowly that's what we're seeing happening the president is set a number of times that he wants to just do away with the grievance venture and pompei is that he wants that as president the president also has very strong support among the gulf monarchies against iran and certainly among the israelis and so i think that he thinks that this is the right thing to do i think it is bad news because really to be successful you need to hear all alternative viewpoints and donald trump is not going to get alternative viewpoints he doesn't want them he doesn't listen to them and i think that's the mark of a failing presidency pompei i was possession of the cia will be filled by gina hospital both appointees pompei o. and hospital will now have to go through senate confirmation hearings before taking office however rights groups of called on congress to reject both nominations human rights watch says that given the track records of pompei one hospital are both likely to endorse abusive practices and we also spoke to cia veteran ray mcgovern he says the hospital is hardly the best choice to head up the agency cina has problem was in charge of t