to meddling in the russian elections all out military confrontation where to end the actions that mr putin took those active measures that i talk to you about these are asymmetric warfare it's part of their doctrine and it's this asymmetric warfare is the is the doctrine of the weak against the strong it's like terrorism you can't take on the united states head on if you don't have the means to do so this is a means of looking for weaknesses in the american system and taking advantage of those things therefore the way to deal with those is to is to put pressure on putin to make clear what's acceptable and what's not expression. i think continuing to support arms to ukraine making it clear there is a price to pay in his area or near abroad where he's taken advantage in crimea and ukraine i do believe that nuclear posture of increasing our weapons systems of our nuclear weapons systems i think this all makes sense i think continuing to develop relations and with our nato partners to push back i also think there's a whole education issue that has to be done here the critics of trouble yoursel

i have no idea both relationship between mr pretty goes on mr putin but based on my more this knowledge about how russian society ministration work in general i don't because the specificity of current russian system unlike the soviet system where everything was really centralized and very much well organized. now we have the opposite situation yes the state. obviously uses some how to call it nontraditional means sometimes to compensate for all those weaknesses of russian russian system because it's no secret that. in many components of influence power economy capacity russia is much weaker than the united states but it can be compensated by by some. what i'm asking you about is the propensity of the of russia to produce these ad hoc actions what you're saying is that yes the russian state sometimes outsourcing is that but i think also what many foreigners don't understand is this call which the russian system allows for personal and sometimes even eleven and malevolent initiative yeah absolutely that's what i wanted to say and sometimes it is the case that. the state is using it but i

mr. putin's activities. russia with sanctions with respect to the transfer of arms or related materiel to syria. each one of those sanctions imposed new authority to the president of the united states to impose sanctions against russia for their activities. i said earlier where shuns have shown leadership, it has been effective in countering mr. putin's activities. president trump, no sanctions, not one has been -- has been brought forward under the law passed by the congress of the united states. by 98.9% of the members of the house and senate, we approved the sanctions the -- the sanctions, the trump administration has opposed steer. the trump administration has failed to acknowledge that mr. putin has been engaged in their 2016 elections. he says i talked to mr. putin. it seems like he is telling me the truth when he says he wasn't involved. even though it is the unanimous view of our intelligence community and the facts have been very clearly laid out to the american people that mr. putin was actively en

typical spy contacts you ask you know who benefits who has the incentive to do this we know that mr putin the president of russia was quite hostile to hillary clinton he thought that she had made efforts that were disparaging about his reelection being fixed and had an incentive to get back in the theory that she was going to be much more tough with regard to russia if you were elected than donald trump you know her reset button really didn't reset anything except for the worse so why would there be an incentive for just some russian citizen with no connection to putin to come in and try to influence the outcome of american election mean there's nothing in it for private russian citizen would only be the government that would benefit and that's why i think it points the finger right directly at the kremlin just let myself in mosco fuel foreign minister missed a lot of roles. why does he constantly refer back to this kind of anti russia agenda he says he claims if one reads what he's written or listens to his interviews he claims there is an anti russian agenda say in the vote for the move

mr putin to tell him the truth he will be politically damaged by this but take it or indictment in its aftermath gentlemen we have to leave it there thanks to all our guests today bruce fein yes love myself and sean michael cox and thank you to you too for your company you can see the program again and it's i'm via the web site al jazeera dot com and for further discussion to check out our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle at a.j. inside story or tweet me also if you back on that it's a double whammy for me peter dhabi and everyone on the team here in doha thanks for watching the season by. the way we communicate is what defines us. you don't always has been. as innovation in technology continues to shape our lives. by any ring content creation and distribution utilizing cloud technology and dr fisher intelligent. the future that's never seemed closer than it does today. and what lies beyond the horizon. take us to a friend to see the future of media leaders some. limited abilities. a unique poor t

years going back to the clinton administration in nato enlargement president obama always engaged mr putin a spirit of logic and the logic that we saw in the relationship was not necessarily the same logic that mr putin saw when somebody is trying to assure you listen i come with my tanks i come with my you know military equipment to your big heart but because that is not against you would you believe and then there was also i think a geo political argument that the west should take advantage of this time to move east and to make sure that poland and hungary and a stone are for ever outside russia's sphere of influence free states should be able to say we're in nato our not in nato we're in the e.u. we're not in the e.u. who is russia to tell them how they should behave. the deployment of the missile defense system was no longer negotiable that's what obama told putin the press conference was frigid. it was good to be. noticed he also discussed international up at all interested parties in trying to find a resolution to this problem. from obama's point of view how important was putin the l

but the president was very direct very clear with mr putin that we knew what they were doing it had to stop if it if it did there would be consequences. nobody. neither mr nor any security disservice in the growth has ever provided us is any kind of evidence of russian interference. you know that if you have interfered. it's very difficult to deal with someone who again. lies on a regular basis. he's a former k.g.b. officer i think intelligence officers around the world have very similar way of looking at the world there's a barter training facility that has sort of a funny phrase up above the bar and it says admit nothing deny everything make counter-accusations so there are so many of very sensitive philip delicate issues which could have them itch the election compete of them clean them there's some genius in the in the in the here administration in atlanta viz that we are out blaming dresser for for meddling. everything we saw after that suggested that as far as we could tell russian efforts to exfiltrate information. and then turn around and use it in some fashion seemed to stop b

mr putin's mind. the policy asking. the stone the ball because on the one greed. there are signs of attempts to diversify the system i wouldn't i wouldn't say open because openness into this world has so many backsides so it's quite quite dangerous but to diversify to make it more. sustainable and not to rely on one single person one single institution which is called the russian presidency and i think all understand and all agree that this is needed at the same time. again very legitimate fear is that. ménage ability of state in today's world is very much under under pressure and this is the biggest. threat biggest risk for any country even for the united states to lose control over what is going on. that happened in the middle east by the way just confirmed that. are. sustainable but the opposite more though. you've noted in several of your articles that. the western model of democracy is also on there going some division there is a crisis of all political parties in the west i think there is also a crisis of. media especially in the united states when the media

so i think mr. putin and others in the kremlin right now are unfortunately very satisfied with some of the things that have happened over the last 14 months. >> to my knowledge, there has not been an nsc principals meeting or deputies meeting on this russian threat to our elections since president trump was elected. we're told that homeland security is working with different state and local officials. but that there has not been an interagency collective call to arms. one has to assume it is because the president himself has been so ambivalent about this. >> if that is the truth, that is outrageous. and that is an abdication of the responsibilities of the president, national security council. we had intense and regular meetings at the national security council level which is chaired by the president just to make sure we understood what was going on and the best way to confront it. if in fact this administration has in order held those meetings while we know that the threat is real, there is demonstrable e

the only idea of question and i'll say he gives but i don't like this idea i want to argue with mr putin i want not only to have his answer but i want to ask additional questions and additional question to every he is i don't have the support you need to know and no one has in our country and this is not fair but only the least see right. lack of debates we can say that those the elections are not fair i want to see the same debates i saw trump with hillary clinton but i don't think that wrong i don't know why i don't why i didn't if he's not afraid because this is a political tradition in our tradition this is a bad tradition if we're talking about democracy and mr putin many times said that russia is a democratic state in all democratic states and i will pull it all it is i'm quite sure in what i'm saying there exists a tradition of debates and putin was asked many times to take part in those debates and he never does so this is not fair if he really wants completion ok well i agree and you know all the facts yourselves little eleanor here for eighteen years i'm just a little blonde gi

four hundred who are very potent russian surface to air missiles now if they ignore mr putin's message and say we're just going to take it all out. there's going to be a problem the israelis claim to have taken out most of the surface air defenses of syria i don't believe i don't play cause either because as i said it's an integrated system with russia it has a russian flag on it they're not going to take out russia's surface defense system because it would be unacceptable they know that so they took out a control tower or something like that but you know what do they do next does a except there's do they say well look the air defenses of syria in lebanon are only going to burn the long term we must try and take an early preemptive action to destroy them before they become even better what are they going to do or are they going to say well we have to just come to terms with the reality much as we dislike it that we have lost our military earlier in the break accepting it it doesn't seem part of their d.n.a. i think culturally almost impossible to to to excess. i think they would try an

i have no idea both relationship between mr pretty goes on mr putin but based on my more this knowledge about how russian society and russia ministration work in general i don't because the specificity of current russian system unlike the soviet system where everything was really centralized and very much well organized. now we have the opposite situation yes the state. obviously uses some how to call it nontraditional means sometimes to compensate for all those weaknesses of russian russian system because it's no secret that. many components of influence power or economy capacity russia is much weaker than the united states but it can be compensated by by some. what i'm asking you about is the propensity of the russia to produce these ad hoc actions what you're saying is that the russian state sometimes outsourcing is that but i think also what many foreigners don't understand is this call which the russian system allows for personal and sometimes even eleven and malevolent initiative yeah absolutely that's what i wanted to say that sometimes it is the case that. the state is using it

the only idea of question and i'll say he gives but i don't like this idea i want to argue with mr putin i want not only to have his answer but i want to ask additional question and additional question to every key is i don't have the support you need to know and no one. as a country and this is not fair but i only see by lack of debates we can say that those the elections are not fair i want to see the same debates i saw trump with hillary clinton but i do think that wrong i don't know why i don't why i did it if he is not afraid because this is a political tradition in our tradition this is a bad tradition if we're talking about democracy and mr putin many times said that russia is a democratic state in all democratic states and i will pull it all it is i'm quite sure in what i am saying there exists a tradition of debates and putin was asked many times to take part in those debates and he never does so this is not fair if he really wants complete dushan ok well i agree you know all the facts yourselves little eleanor here for eighteen years i'm just a little blonde girl you know comin

as for hundreds who are very potent russian surface to air missiles now if they ignore mr putin smith said and say we're just going to take it all out. there's going to be a problem the israelis claim to have taken out most of the surface the air defenses of syria.

i mean i think precisely this was the aim of mr putin's talk with the israeli prime minister to say listen you know ok you may have your interests in your security we hear that but you don't mess up syria but our security interests that's russian security interests ok not just to start. we want a stable syria and we want to stable lebanon and you can't just send in planes every week to bomb the country and disrupt the political process in this way it's unacceptable and i think this was the message that was delivered both physically and by telephone. to the prime minister but it's a very strategically huge message because israel depends entirely on superiority overwhelming oh no total i mean the army they made a decision after the two thousand and six war that they couldn't put boots on the ground in lebanon let alone in syria for more than six days i mean they would not be possible to do this so superiority is crucial do they have it now i don't know do they have it in lebanon maybe not but it's been tested. it's been tested and now israel has a huge decision do you actually set that and d

the only idea or question and i'll say he gives but i don't like this idea i want to argue with mr putin i want not only to have his answer but i want to ask additional question and additional question to every key is i don't have the support you need to know and no one has a country and this is not fair but only the least see my lack of debates we can say that those the elections are not fair i want to see the same debates i saw trump with hillary clinton but i don't think that wrong under but i don't know why i don't why i didn't if he's not afraid because this is a political tradition in our tradition this is a bad tradition if we're talking about democracy and mr putin many times said that russia is a democratic state in all democratic states and that i'm a political it is i'm quite sure in what i'm saying there exists a tradition of debates and putin was asked many times to take part in those debates and he never does so this is not fair if he really wants computing ok now all the facts your social eleanor here for eighteen years i'm just a little blonde girl you know coming from th

mr. putin's job. he's just helping us along. >> for me i find conflicts of issue a huge issue and the complete erosion of the line between public and priefbtd and sort of that, i think, warps the incentive and kind of what drives politicians and i'm from ukraine. there's a perfect example of a complete blending between public and private, you know. the current president is a former oligarch. i don't know to what extent he's divested his interest. but that kind of really undermines the way the government functions, who it responds to, what incentive it follows. i think, again, foreign and domestic corruption, i think as we've discussed is part of the same and we need to be aware of it and not point a finger or two and kind of infiltrate and ee load our system from within but understand what's happened internally. again, there are multiple issues that we talk about on the domestic front that we need to address as part of the solution. >> i mean one thing that should be noted, i'm not an expert on this,

this is a bad tradition if we're talking about democracy and mr putin many times said that russia is a democratic state in all democratic states and i'm a poet all it is i'm quite sure in what i'm saying there exists a tradition of debates and putin was asked many times to take part in those debates and he never does so this is not fair if he really wants computing ok now all the facts your social eleanor here for eighteen years i'm just a little blonde girl you know coming from you can count on and have to balance with me i'm not you know i don't know someone who is so much less than you that you would have been led astray by yourself because you made your criticism of putin very clear by. let's leave some time but this is my comparing isabeau like campaign is not about me. going to give you an easy way out of that because you haven't you are my way is only to show that those people should not be there this is actually what i know they you know now i mean these are not the boxing assault my campaign is candid it against all i said you. do want to ask a few questions about yourself y

much about there but on iran you know i think versus i mean i think precisely this was the aim of mr putin's talk with the israeli prime minister to say listen you know ok you may have your interests in your security we hear that but you don't mess up syria but our security interests that's russian security interests ok not just to start we want a stable syria and we want to stable lebanon and you can't just send in planes every week to bomb the country and disrupt the political process in this way it's unacceptable and i think this was the message that was delivered both physically and by telephone. to the prime minister but it's a very strategically huge message because israel depends entirely on superiority overwhelming oh no total i mean the army they made a decision after the two thousand and six war that they couldn't put boots on the ground in lebanon let alone in syria for more than six days i mean they would not be possible to do this so superiority is crucial do they have it now i don't know do they have it in lebanon maybe not but it's been tested. it's been tested and now israel

mr putin called just before the break we were talking about let a ship and angela merkel has been in power for quite a long time almost as long as large an absolute sense that one of the benefits of staying in power for so long is obviously the experience but on the other hand there are multiple studies suggesting that one people stay in power for that long their perception of reality changes in many important ways you've been a political animal for most of the alive how long is too long for a head of state. if you has now had. has now three terms had three terms. if i would have asked her if she would have asked me i would say be very careful was trying to get a force one the same problem arose was. cool and the the force he had was only really accepted because he had. two different blocks of terms. chance to decide. it divided germany and chancellor in a united germany. but if i were to. able to reform our constitution on that issue i would look very much to countries that have limited the election of person of individual to the top government position like in the united states whe

know the economy went south and he was a reformer into was a reform and a fierce critic later on of mr putin he accused the president of launching an illegal war with ukraine today many russians came to pay tribute to the bravery of mr themself who was always fighting for the freedom of the press for a strong pall of and that is not always say yes to everything that comes from the kremlin today many russians came really to pay tribute to the bravery of this young politicians and he was someone who was really not afraid of anyone in the kremlin he always was a strong personality i've met him several times he had he was a cursed mattick figure and many people have not forgotten that. drugs are a shining us from moscow thank you. time now for some of the other stories making news around the world china's communist party has proposed removing a two term limit on how long the president can stay in power that would mean president xi jinping could remain in office after his second term ends in twenty twenty three his already the most powerful chinese leader in decades and his ideology was and try a

so i think at some level mr. putin is probably feeling kind of proud. >> what about that, malcolm, other leaders might be looking at vladimir putin now thinking, what happens when he comes after me? >> well, the same thing is going to happen. i mean, putin has gone after many other world leaders. he has an entire network of these sort of alt-right conservative sort of bordering on neo-nazi movement. the united states was the last place to get the treatment. we saw they meddled in the elections of france, germany, sweden. and they're close to the government of austria. these governments, right-wing extremist governments have relations with putin's personal party there. so the united states has donald trump, and that may be his western pillar of what he wanted to accomplish, the dismantlement of nato and the breakup of the european union but emmanuel macron sort of saved us. this is food made to sit down for. slow down for. put the phone away, and use a knife and fork for. and with panera catering, it's food worth sharin

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the message to mr. putin is, you can keep doing what you're doing. >> does that mean you view the president as in violation of this law or to put it back on congress that it wasn't written tightly and specific enough to force action? >> well, there are certain divisions of responsibility, congress has the responsibility to pay -- pass laws, the president has the responsibility to carry out those laws. we need to impose and enforce sanctions against russia. we have made that very clear to him. he's starting the process, he's holding open that he should use these sanctions, we think they should have been used by now. >> the other thing that i mentioned was discussed at the hearing, your view of that was the cia according to the "new york times," doing the right thing to try to run those leads down, or is the president right that this was a plot against him or is the story wrong in your view? >> well, every one of our intelligence agencies have concluded that not only was russia actively engaged in our elections

he said he believed mr putin over his own intelligence agencies when it came to interfering with the election and even if it didn't involve his own people now that is basically been shown to be untrue whether or not into a crime is a different matter but here we have trump in my judgment very much embarrassed showing that his credibility is at stake when he says he would basically do it by putin said i believed it when he said he had no no hands and if that is the case mr fine then how do you sort of place this parts of the investigation you might say the statement made by the deputy attorney general in the larger context of what we're already seeing for example the indictments against paul mother for michael flynn the former national security adviser because they are also implicated in having some sort of cold and hunt with russia which then sort of like mud sticks and has an association with the president. well that's true but i think that where this stands now with the next phase that we'll look at we'll be questioning mr trump and donald jr and others to see whether or not once t

mr. putin or mr. russia, if you things, what ry do you call that thing? they keep doing, saying that she does -- host: her e-mails? caller: her e-mails. if you can crack hillary's e-mails, you will be well rewarded and when you realize she will be well rewarded by the middle, the media, the false news people before you. host: ok. in some other headlines yesterday, president trump and first lady went to a hospital in florida where several people were treated from that parkland shooting according to fox news. president trump and first lady visited broward health hospital op florida to pay respects to survivors and medical professionals involved in this week's school shooting massacre. they flew from washington to florida friday afternoon. incredible recovery, trump said. first responders, everybody, the job they've done is incredible. the president and first lady going there to pay their respects to the injured and the first responders there. mercy is calling from shreveport, louisiana, on our democratic line. what are your thoughts on the indictment? calle

mr. putin would you know be. starting march thirteenth d.w. . greetings from the german capital once again and welcome to our latest edition and we've got lifestyle and culture up to the rafters so let's get started with these topics. manish steps celebrating from enco in the city of paris. sweet treats a german pastry chef and his mouth watering creation. and film icon while i'm years behind us is in the line up for an academy award. along with things like of the aha winds and mango is one of the things that pops up when we think of spain and currently in the andalusian city of head is the left in the south it's all about this passionate dance and the music that accompanies it for two weeks performances and workshops abound at the annual flamenco festival and because people there grow up with flamenco in their blood it has to be top notch and that's why it's a huge draw for international dance back. taking the audience into the subconscious. and experimental. takes. so yeah. that's me. and me is an imaginary individual living in a fantasy world

this uncertainty about what will happen pose 2024, post mr. putin 's next term opens up the conversation in a way that has not been open until now. thethe next six years, system seems quite able to handle the uncertainty of his any -- of any system. -- has been very prominent in promoting and describing the candidacy or the non-candidacy at this point of -- but it is clear to my mind that it struck a certain chord in russian domestic politics which at tosent is not really amount a major political challenge to the system, but i think there is a degree of uncertainty there and challenge the mastic to the system that we ought to be thinking about in serious ways, i don't think it is going to be a systemic change but a realignment perhaps. last but not least, my question would be to both my colleagues to spoke before me and perhaps to you too, what do you make of this very strange presidential campaign? with -- being marginalized but still playing a huge role as a voice for many in the young generation and then there is the -- idates that raises a very

to their loyalty to damascus but equally they're not wedded to this quite good relationship that mr putin seems to have with mr erdogan despite the fact that we're almost two and a bit years ago the turks shot a russian fighter aircraft at the skies the relationship took a nosedive but then it came back up again. yes it has and russia is very much at the center of these negotiations undoubtedly because turkey everyone will not speak to the syrian regime russia has been the interlocutor here and and has been trying to preserve good relations with the kurds with the turks and with the us uk which of course is very difficult to do but this is very favorable for russia because it it means that turkey doesn't step in to syria that assad its client in a sense in this whole thing yes to reassert its authority the united states is less likely to be totally happy with this deal we just saw the n.s.c. had mcmaster say now is the time to push back against you but the united states is waiting they want to help the kurds they want to destabilize syria on the one hand but on the other hand they want to

i mean i think precisely this was the aim of mr putin's talk with the israeli prime minister to say listen you know ok you may have your interests in your security we hear that but you don't mess up syria but our security interests that's russian security interests ok not just to start we want a stable syria and we want to stable lebanon and you can't just send in planes every week to bomb the country and disrupt the political process in this way it's unacceptable and i think this was the message that was delivered both physically and by telephone. to the prime minister but it's a very strategically huge message because israel depends entirely on superior.

guaranteed but i think what what is really important to mr putin at least is the principle because if you're used to first option it's not only unfair i think in the russian world view but it is also highly detrimental because it simply increases the discount for potential mistakes absolutely first off and is not an option for russia these only existing two to take it wasn't down to ninety nine to just to make russia part of somebody else's construction which didn't work and it could not work it was very i don't know naive to believe. but i think that the russian problem now is in years to come. as problems for many countries in the world is not of external nature and someone turned on the russia has exhausted a certain moral of the element which worked pretty well in. two thousand and. eight hydrocarbon rant and then obviously not only as assignment is just is just a part of this i mean broader i mean the russian. starting from ninety one even under president yeltsin and the president putin and the president of egypt during all this time was actually to get back to the table where th

what will mr. putin do this year , 2019, and the election-year?older measures against russian interference, mr. putin will be emboldened. if the president of the united states does not carry out his constitutional authority to protect the country, then mr. putin will do more and more. francine: ambassador, good morning. do we know if president trump would have won even without the russian meddling in the election? robert: we will never know, is my judgment. the report i mentioned before says that we will never know how much russian interference affected the election. what we do know is they did everything possible to try to get donald trump elected. francine: where do you think the mueller investigation will end up? how fast will it go? robert: i don't have anything authoritative to say to that. ,he investigation has been good in fact exemplary, and avoiding leaks, so we will see where it goes. we all, of course, are interested in and the connection between the russian government and american individuals. tom: you were the ambassador, digital map

mr putin called just before the break we were talking about lead a ship and angela merkel has been in power for quite a long time almost as long as of. now one of the benefits of staying in power for so long is obviously the experience but on the other hand there are multiple studies suggesting that when people stay in power for that long their perception of reality changes in many important ways you've been a political animal for most of the alive how long is too long for ahead of state. if you has now have. has now three terms three terms. if i would have asked her if she would have. asked me i would say be very careful with trying to get a fourth one the same problem arose was handled cool and the fourth term he had was only really accepted because he heads to white's two different blocks of terms of. chancellor and decided in a divided church germany and chancellor in a united germany. but if i were to. able to reform our constitution on that issue i would look very much to countries that have limited the election of person of individual to the top government position like in the