now yesterday mr rasmussen decided to play hardball he said that if karzai doesn't sign the deal with the americans all nato forces could be withdrawn from of ganesan after thirteen years of war and that eight billion dollars in annual aid that afghans have so badly needs will that could be in jeopardy too but if this is a game of carrots and sticks approach we saw both the nato and the united states somewhat soften their stance today the u.s. secretary of state john kerry came out with a new proposal this morning saying all right if karzai doesn't want to sign the deal let's come up with a plan to help him save face we can get the defense minister to sign it anyone as soon as it gets signed quickly and soon now we also saw both nato and the white house refuse now to hold karzai to a deadline this is a major about face for the white house which had a earlier insisted that karzai is signed the deal before the end of the year now they're saying they simply wanted done just as quickly as possible for cars i mean while he knows that he needs this money he knows that afghanistan does need