that is a i reference to the falling out between priti patel and the permanent secretary mr rutten, andons of bullying, and that was something that was going on very much this time. . that was going on very much this time-- you _ that was going on very much this time. yes. you mentioned there also, ou sa time. yes. you mentioned there also, you say there — time. yes. you mentioned there also, you say there was _ time. 1:3 you mentioned there also, you say there was no clear pattern of working with mrjohnson, this is something we will come back to. but was that an extraordinary matter? that is a very good question. i'm not sure whether there would ever have been a normal pattern of working for mrjohnson. but i do know that the kind of monomaniacal focus of him for reasons which i'm sure that they would happily give on just focusing on eu exit from july 2019, and then getting to the election meant that the way it was communicated to us was that everything else could wait until after this question was subtle, and then there was going to come a very large amount of change, and we were just