no relation well mr van dorn i think we probably disagree on the definition of extremism here because having every plot it's from the syrian frontlines i see anyone who went to syria to join isis as an extremist but you back in two thousand and fourteen sad that we should not label guys who have been to syria as dangerous you said that you know a number of people who have returned they may be disillusioned but they are not dangerous and obviously they didn't go there to plant trees they went there to fight and kill how would you know if they're dangerous or extremes of extremism that we should not promote of course in my opinion again another scholar but i guess it's nothing to do with islam. and this has already created by other organizations will be you know we don't have to talk about that. of course some of them can be dangerous and if they come back to the no less so to other western european countries they should be monitored and if they have. committed crimes against humanity or worse or crimes they have to go to a church and the you know we have a legal system but we have to m