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mr. zimmerman's statements, correct? i do. >> again, you say that he lived in the community, driving the vehicle. zimmerman felt that he did not belong in the gated community and called police. did you get that from mr. zimmerman? >> i did not speak with him. >> did you gateser that? >>over the 911 -- excuse me -- emergency dispatch. >> you say he perceived trayvon martin as suspicious. >> correct. >> did you get any in sight? >> when talking to the dispatcher, i believe he said he was suspicious. >> did he use that word? >> without reviewing it right now and reviewing all the stuff we have, i can't honestly say if he used that word during the dispatch tape. >> he informed zimmerman that an officer is on the way and to wait for the officer, correct? >> i believe so. >> we got that from the 911 tape that was heard. >> the non-emergency tape, yes. >> non-emergency, sorry. now, i'm curious. you then say zimmerman made reference to people that he felç had -- what was that that gave you that consideration, do you recall? >> i
mr. zimmerman's statements, correct? i do. >> again, you say that he lived in the community, driving the vehicle. zimmerman felt that he did not belong in the gated community and called police. did you get that from mr. zimmerman? >> i did not speak with him. >> did you gateser that? >>over the 911 -- excuse me -- emergency dispatch. >> you say he perceived trayvon martin as suspicious. >> correct. >> did you get any in sight? >> when talking to...
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mr. zimmerman is in fact in custody. he is in florida. mr. zimmerman was outside of florida when he heard that charges were likely imminent. >> i'm sorry to interrupt. angela corey, the special prosecutor. >>> good evening, everyone. i am angela corey, the special prosecutor for the trayvon martin case. just moments ago, we spoke by phone with sabrina fulton and tracy martin. it was less than three weeks ago that we told those sweet parents we would get answers to all of their questions no matter where our quest for the truth led us. it is the search for justice for trayvon that has brought us to this moment. the team here with me has worked tirelessly. i want to introduce bernie delirionda and john guy, my top homicide prosecutors that will lead this investigation. with us also is jim madon from the florida department of law enforcement, dominic pate, one of our special agents in charge, our share riff, john rutherford and our undersheriff, duane centerfit. we appreciate so much all of their cooperation in this. i especially want to thank my
mr. zimmerman is in fact in custody. he is in florida. mr. zimmerman was outside of florida when he heard that charges were likely imminent. >> i'm sorry to interrupt. angela corey, the special prosecutor. >>> good evening, everyone. i am angela corey, the special prosecutor for the trayvon martin case. just moments ago, we spoke by phone with sabrina fulton and tracy martin. it was less than three weeks ago that we told those sweet parents we would get answers to all of their...
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mr. zimmerman -- she alleged in this affidavit that mr. zimmerman pushed her and then he with his open hand smacked her in the mouth and asked her how it felt? >> no, i'm not aware of that. >> okay. he then -- i'm sorry. i'm referencing -- i'll refer to parts of it since the court has it. >> that's fine. >> he picked me up and threw me on the bed. got up to leave and he grabbed me again and put her on the bed. you weren't aware of that incident? >> i am aware he had to protect himself from being attacked from her and there was blood drawn on him from her and he filed an injunction against her. >> he did file an injunction against her, correct? >> that is correct. >> now, so despite those two incidents, the prior arrest involving a law enforcement officer and the incident involving the injunction, you still assess or determine or tell the court that he is not a violent person or a threat to the community? >> absolutely he is not a violent person nor a threat to the community. >> all right. let me just start at the very beginning of your test
mr. zimmerman -- she alleged in this affidavit that mr. zimmerman pushed her and then he with his open hand smacked her in the mouth and asked her how it felt? >> no, i'm not aware of that. >> okay. he then -- i'm sorry. i'm referencing -- i'll refer to parts of it since the court has it. >> that's fine. >> he picked me up and threw me on the bed. got up to leave and he grabbed me again and put her on the bed. you weren't aware of that incident? >> i am aware he...
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mr. zimmerman in -- >> i will not comment on where mr. zimmerman. is he is within the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a judge. >> is that what you're saying, you would have arrived at the same conclusion? >> this is the conclusion that we came to based on our review of the facts in evidence. i'm not sure they were through with the entire investigation at the point mr. wolfinger recused himself from this case. >> are you confidence that you have the evidence for a conviction? >> we have to have a reasonable certainty of conviction before we file charges. any time there's an affirmative defense and there are numerous affirmative defenses that can be asserted before the arrest, immediately after the arrest, during the trial. we've had them come up in the middle of trial, haven't we? my fellow prosecutors that sit here, we've all faced this. for example, alibi is an affirmative defense. sometimes that gets put on us in the middle of a trial.
mr. zimmerman in -- >> i will not comment on where mr. zimmerman. is he is within the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a judge. >> is that what you're saying, you would have arrived at the same conclusion? >> this is the conclusion that we came to based on our review of the facts in evidence. i'm not sure they were through with the entire investigation at the point...
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mr. zimmerman -- . >> i can will not tell you where he s. he is in the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida, and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a j. [ question indicernible ] >> yes, sir. >> would they have arrived at the same conclusion, is that what you saying in. >> i speak for angela corey and my prosecution team. this is the conclusion that we came to based on our review of the facts and evidence. >> let me rephrase that. >> i am not sure they were through with the entire investigation at the point mr. willfinger recused himself from the case. >> do you have the evidence for a conviction? >> we have too have a reasonable certainty of convict before filing charges. any time there is a affirmative defense and there are numerous affirmative defenses that can be asserted before the arrest, immediately after the arrest, during the trial. we have had them come up in the the middle of trial, haven't we? my fellow prosecutors that sit here. we have all faced this before.
mr. zimmerman -- . >> i can will not tell you where he s. he is in the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida, and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a j. [ question indicernible ] >> yes, sir. >> would they have arrived at the same conclusion, is that what you saying in. >> i speak for angela corey and my prosecution team. this is the conclusion that we came to based on our review of the facts and...
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mr. zimmerman as to his reasonableness. to whether or not he is acting rational and whether or not he is in fact a flight risk. >> let me go back to you about mrs. corey, attorney smith. we spoke with the defense attorney who knows her record well. he says this to us, quote, angela cory always prosecuted tenaciously cases involving shootings. we have the highest percentage of cases on death row of any circuit in florida. so i would be very surprised if she does not charge george zimmerman. do you think that's a fair statement? >> it's absolutely true, we have more people on death row on the fourth judicial circuit than any other in florida and angela a tenacious prosecutor. they seek the death penalty frequently in other cases where prosecutors may have a different view of the evidence, may choose to abandon the death penalty in favor after life sentence. but she is a straight forward person. and she comes by that dedication to prosecuting violent crime honestly. she's a very, very involved in the victim's rights movement.
mr. zimmerman as to his reasonableness. to whether or not he is acting rational and whether or not he is in fact a flight risk. >> let me go back to you about mrs. corey, attorney smith. we spoke with the defense attorney who knows her record well. he says this to us, quote, angela cory always prosecuted tenaciously cases involving shootings. we have the highest percentage of cases on death row of any circuit in florida. so i would be very surprised if she does not charge george...
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mrs. zimmerman, appeared that the trial was called. do you understand that concern? >> i'm sorry, could you rephrase that? >> one concern reason for setting bond is simply to make sure that george zimmerman comes back when he's supposed to for trial for court proceedings? >> yes, i do. >> would you take on obligation to this court today that you will do anything in your power and control to guarantee the court that george will come back to court for necessary proceedings and trial? >> absolutely i will. >> further, would you take on the delegation or responsibility to advise the court should you lose contact or touch with your husband, george? >> absolutely, i will. >> even though that would be in fact telling the court that he might be in violation of a bond condition? >> yes. >> another condition or another concern the court would have is a bond amount. i would ask you then realizing that one option is the court to grant a monetary bond. if you can advise the court of your financial circumstances so i can ask a couple of questions. are you working presently? >> no,
mrs. zimmerman, appeared that the trial was called. do you understand that concern? >> i'm sorry, could you rephrase that? >> one concern reason for setting bond is simply to make sure that george zimmerman comes back when he's supposed to for trial for court proceedings? >> yes, i do. >> would you take on obligation to this court today that you will do anything in your power and control to guarantee the court that george will come back to court for necessary proceedings...
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mr. zimmerman was taken into custody today.mself in, but she also said that there has been detailed coordination with law enforcement and they have had access to mr. zimmerman. they know where he has been for three weeks. she also said that he is in the stateo! florida, though she would not give any further details about that. joining us now is kendall coffey, a former federal prosecutor and attorney in florida. your immediate reaction there to special prosecutor angela corey's public statement. >> the charge is very aggressive. the presentation masterful. a very good civics lesson about the process. and in part a very compelling statement about her commitment to victims. an etch sis overand over again that this was business as usual despite the huge amount of public interest. and she did a heck of a job explaining that while she redid the investigation, not a word of criticism for everyone involved. simply prays for the team working together. i give it an a plus. >> we have eugene jay donald. what did you think when she explai
mr. zimmerman was taken into custody today.mself in, but she also said that there has been detailed coordination with law enforcement and they have had access to mr. zimmerman. they know where he has been for three weeks. she also said that he is in the stateo! florida, though she would not give any further details about that. joining us now is kendall coffey, a former federal prosecutor and attorney in florida. your immediate reaction there to special prosecutor angela corey's public...
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mr. zimmerman -- i'm sorry he confronted mr. martin. why else would mr. martin want to confront mr. mmerman? he was on his way home minding his own business. i'm not here to argue all the facts. our contention is, your honor, this is a serious crime and he should be held under no bond or if it is set, it slould be a million dollars. thank you for the court's indulgence. >> further, mr. o'mear omar rah. >> i have case law. >> i'm familiar. >> i know, your honor. >> there's not too many jurisdictions in the case get the wealth of cases, alt only cases, not just this but cases in general in the criminal justice system. so we're all very familiar with. this is a very familiar with this type of hearing but for the media involved in this particular case and theç circumstances associated with mr. zimmerman's record is something the court and anybody who practices here in the central florida areaing is familiar with. i think that's the best way. so we're familiar with the situations. i won't say standard but it's a run of a mill type of run-in i believe it was at the library. fairly common.
mr. zimmerman -- i'm sorry he confronted mr. martin. why else would mr. martin want to confront mr. mmerman? he was on his way home minding his own business. i'm not here to argue all the facts. our contention is, your honor, this is a serious crime and he should be held under no bond or if it is set, it slould be a million dollars. thank you for the court's indulgence. >> further, mr. o'mear omar rah. >> i have case law. >> i'm familiar. >> i know, your honor. >>...
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mr. zimmerman. >> so two experts say two different experts say sorry, they do not believe it's mr. zimmerman's voice calling for help. >> and that's what we have been saying, reverend sharpton. listen for yourself, don't take the parent's word for it, listen with your own ears. look at that video with your own eyes, it's real telling when you start using your own senses, you come to your own conclusions, it's so important to note that his father was getting his head banked against the con kroet, but that video is enhanced and mag if ied and ewe still trying to see the cuts they say are on his head, and you ask if it was that bad, why didn't there a band aid on it. why didn't he go to the hospital. >> very interesting. we're going to keep following, keep on it, and i will keep saying there needs to be an arrest and a trial. ben crump, thanks for being here tonight. let me turn to a retired police investigator and the elite group, and a former homicide prosecutor, thank you both for being here tonight. ken, the zimmerman lawyer and father are out forcefully making their case, and ther
mr. zimmerman. >> so two experts say two different experts say sorry, they do not believe it's mr. zimmerman's voice calling for help. >> and that's what we have been saying, reverend sharpton. listen for yourself, don't take the parent's word for it, listen with your own ears. look at that video with your own eyes, it's real telling when you start using your own senses, you come to your own conclusions, it's so important to note that his father was getting his head banked against...
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mr. zimmerman. and abc gets the video of mr. zimmerman going to the police station and they have to retract when they say no evidence of anywhere injuries. a closer minneapolis showed that. and another network had a retraction. off all of them retracting and irresponsible comments by members of congress we have a bounty on the head of george zimmerman, a lot of things surrounding this. what are you hearing on the ground? >> well, even marco told me he hopes she made the charges because of what she found in the investigation. but it's hard to ignore everything that's been said and heard surrounding this case. she says she did this by the book and the attorney right now thinks that that was probably the way it went. i don't know. i think we will have to see when all this evidence comes out because there's a lot of stuff we still don't know yet. >> but you did have the one definitive interview. there was an eyewitness from day one, and you interviewed him, i believe it was immediately thereafter or pretty close there after, and your
mr. zimmerman. and abc gets the video of mr. zimmerman going to the police station and they have to retract when they say no evidence of anywhere injuries. a closer minneapolis showed that. and another network had a retraction. off all of them retracting and irresponsible comments by members of congress we have a bounty on the head of george zimmerman, a lot of things surrounding this. what are you hearing on the ground? >> well, even marco told me he hopes she made the charges because of...
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mr. zimmerman.was the aggressor, he left a position of safety, not only in his car, but he was traveling. once you leave the position of safety, i think you do not get that level of immunity after that. you can have another self defense argument at trial, but what's important to keep in mind is when you have this mini trial, this is a presumption, a lower standard, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. they get preponderance of evidence which is more likely true than not. i think the initial portion is that this particular person was the aggressor, and it has to be reasonable. it's not complete immunity. it has to be not only a fear, but it has to be reasonable. i think the judge will make that decision on the ground that's it was not reasonable for the person to leave or place himself in a position of confrontation, and he was the aggressor, so he doesn't get particular defense before the trial starts. >> bn, you studied these cases, and you came up with the numbers. have you and your studies come a
mr. zimmerman.was the aggressor, he left a position of safety, not only in his car, but he was traveling. once you leave the position of safety, i think you do not get that level of immunity after that. you can have another self defense argument at trial, but what's important to keep in mind is when you have this mini trial, this is a presumption, a lower standard, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. they get preponderance of evidence which is more likely true than not. i think the initial...
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mr. zimmerman? >> to me, the frame rush to judgment crystallizes very meaningfully, not with respect to some of the discussion since that time, but why the police department would so quickly conclude this is open and shut, self-defense, we can't prove it, we won't start doing the relentless investigation to see if we'll accept a self-serving account for george zimmerman. he was armed, the other guy didn't. he was told to stand back, he didn't, and he clearly was the per suer here. so the facts as we know them, and there are many that we d not, certainly suggest that when that lead investigator thought there was enough there for a probably cause arrest, maybe he just knew what he was talking about. again, reverend, we all though there are things we don't know and probably only angela corey knows. all we know that night there seems to be enough for a probable cause arrest or to keep going more intensely in an investigation that seemed like it got called off by the sanford pd department before it reall
mr. zimmerman? >> to me, the frame rush to judgment crystallizes very meaningfully, not with respect to some of the discussion since that time, but why the police department would so quickly conclude this is open and shut, self-defense, we can't prove it, we won't start doing the relentless investigation to see if we'll accept a self-serving account for george zimmerman. he was armed, the other guy didn't. he was told to stand back, he didn't, and he clearly was the per suer here. so the...
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mr. zimmerman with murder two. i said in the press conference and i'll say it publicly, that i did not have a lot of faithç in what would happen, but i believed it was the right thing to say that we needed an arrest to see where it would go. and it has crossed partisan lines and ened up with a very serious charge. let me start with attorney crump so people understand, he could face life in female if he is convicted, is that correct? >> yes, he can, and it is one of those situations where i think the minimum is 15 years if he is convicted. the judge will have conviction there. and i wanted to say reverend sharpton, it was governor scott and pam bondi, the attorney general, who weighed in first and then got the special prosecutor involved. i shared your sentiments that we were really concerned that nothing would happen. they didn't intend on arresting anybody when tracy martin called us. >> let me go to the parents for a minute. i think that what people need to have a sense of, sybrina, is that you lost a son. it wa
mr. zimmerman with murder two. i said in the press conference and i'll say it publicly, that i did not have a lot of faithç in what would happen, but i believed it was the right thing to say that we needed an arrest to see where it would go. and it has crossed partisan lines and ened up with a very serious charge. let me start with attorney crump so people understand, he could face life in female if he is convicted, is that correct? >> yes, he can, and it is one of those situations...
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mr. zimmerman in -- >> i will not comment on where mr. zimmerman is. i can tell you he is in the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a judge. yes, sir? >> would they have arrived at the same conclusion? >> i speak for angela corey and my prosecution team. this is the conclusion we came to based on our review of the facts in evidence. i'm not sure they were through with the entire investigation at the point mr. wolfinger recused himself from this case. >> do you believe you have the evidence for a conviction? >> we have to have a reasonable certainty of conviction before we file charges. any time there is an affirmative defense, and there are numerous affirmative defenses that can be asserted before the arrest, immediately after the arrest, during the trial. we've had them come up in the middle of trial. my fellow prosecutors that sit here, we've all faced this before. for example, alibi is an affirmative defense. sometimes that gets put on us i
mr. zimmerman in -- >> i will not comment on where mr. zimmerman is. i can tell you he is in the custody of law enforcement officers in the state of florida and he will be taken when it's appropriate for the appropriate appearance in front of a judge. yes, sir? >> would they have arrived at the same conclusion? >> i speak for angela corey and my prosecution team. this is the conclusion we came to based on our review of the facts in evidence. i'm not sure they were through with...
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mr. zimmerman's father and i did speak to mr. zimmerman. i'll keep that conversation private. ♪ you are my sunshine, my only sunshine ♪ ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] choose the same brand your mom trusted for you. children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. introducing gold choice. the freedom you can only get from hertz to keep the car you reserved or simply choose another. and it's free. ya know, for whoever you are that day. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. >>> george zimmerman made his first appearance today in court with his attorney. a brief exercise which set his next court date for may 29th. zimmerman who had been in hiding turned himself in on wednesday. he faces a potential life extension on a second-degree murder charge in the killing of the unarmed tarnlg, trayvon martin, six weeks ago. today his lawyers said he looks forward to the facts coming out in court. >> obviously it was a horrible intersection of t
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mr. zimmerman and local police of racism. the decision to grant mr. mmerman bail will be with conditions. it was greeted with dismay. >> crayon martin -- tracy martin had tears in his eyes. it was devastating that he got to give eight self-serving apology to help them get a bond. they were very outraged at that. >> it will take some days to work out the time of george zimmerman's bail. he is expected to leave florida until his trial begins. >> this is bbc news. still ahead, a family reunited. an extraordinary story of the missing man and how he used the internet to find his way home. let's take a moment to see what is making headlines around the world. we will begin with the quote financial times." it leads on the front for the dental election. the paper showing nicolas are cozy at his final rally before the first round of voting. the tribune focuses on the situation in egypt where thousands took to the streets on friday. all voicing opposition to the interim military government. the ongoing crisis in syria and the call for international intervention i
mr. zimmerman and local police of racism. the decision to grant mr. mmerman bail will be with conditions. it was greeted with dismay. >> crayon martin -- tracy martin had tears in his eyes. it was devastating that he got to give eight self-serving apology to help them get a bond. they were very outraged at that. >> it will take some days to work out the time of george zimmerman's bail. he is expected to leave florida until his trial begins. >> this is bbc news. still ahead, a...
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mr. zimmerman. it was not appropriate, he felt, with emotions still running high in the court room, to possibly increase the fervor around the case. >> it is interesting, is it not? we have had both the prosecution and the defense refering to the fact that this has become such a lightning rod case in the court of public opinion around the country. how they going to manage to try this, when there has been such an outcry? >> that is something both sides are grappling with. there is a possibility of a different venue being chosen for eventual trial. both are saying similar things. they feel now is the time that at last these issues can be resolved in a court room, as opposed to a more-emotional court of public opinion. >> part of the problem had been there was no charge against mr. zimmerman, that he has gone on charged for the death of an unarmed black teenager. the thing public outcry will die down? >> across america, those emotions will be running extremely high. there is a second-degree murder char
mr. zimmerman. it was not appropriate, he felt, with emotions still running high in the court room, to possibly increase the fervor around the case. >> it is interesting, is it not? we have had both the prosecution and the defense refering to the fact that this has become such a lightning rod case in the court of public opinion around the country. how they going to manage to try this, when there has been such an outcry? >> that is something both sides are grappling with. there is a...
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mr. zimmerman then did. by the way, at the end of that letter, that he released weeks ago, he said the zimmerman family will have no further contact with the media prior to the resolution of the investigation. the family's obviously changed their mind about that going out there, doing a lot of media. i want to listen to something he said in his television interview that was recorded there in florida. when he was asked, do you think that being a judge that mr. zimmerman was a judge himself, do you think that that, in a way, affected the way the police handled this case last night? that night. let's listen to his answer to that. >> no one knew that i was a retired magistrate judge. i didn't mention it to the police. i didn't mention it to the state attorney's office. >> sybrina fulton, i'm struck in that by him saying, i didn't mention it to the police. i didn't mention it to the state attorney's office. that, to me, is an answer to the question of did he talk to the police and did he talk to the state attorne
mr. zimmerman then did. by the way, at the end of that letter, that he released weeks ago, he said the zimmerman family will have no further contact with the media prior to the resolution of the investigation. the family's obviously changed their mind about that going out there, doing a lot of media. i want to listen to something he said in his television interview that was recorded there in florida. when he was asked, do you think that being a judge that mr. zimmerman was a judge himself, do...
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mr. zimmerman. mr. o'maura, tell me your reaction. >> again, she charged with second degree but she knows the evidence and i don't yet so it's tough for me to comment on what i haven't seen yet. we'll have to wait until the process works through. >> when you say you're surprised by that charge, why? >> well, because again, she knows the evidence but that type of crime would suggest that he did something truly unlawful and i think the evidence so far suggests that there was at least question and controversy over what happened. but quite honestly we really do need to wait to see what the evidence tells us. >> have you had much time to really look over the case at this point or are you really that new to it? >> no, i truly am that new to it. i've seen only what's been shown in the media and no other contact with the case. it's really difficult for me to speak at all authoritatively about the evidence and it wouldn't be proper. >> i assume you've had a chat with mr. zimmerman. without getting into the attor
mr. zimmerman. mr. o'maura, tell me your reaction. >> again, she charged with second degree but she knows the evidence and i don't yet so it's tough for me to comment on what i haven't seen yet. we'll have to wait until the process works through. >> when you say you're surprised by that charge, why? >> well, because again, she knows the evidence but that type of crime would suggest that he did something truly unlawful and i think the evidence so far suggests that there was at...
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mr. zimmerman, mark o'mara. we found out this evidence that he will be representing mr. zimmerman. mr. o'mara, tell me your reaction first of all to the charges this afternoon? >> again, i'm surprised that she charged with second degree, but she knows the evidence i don't know yet so it's tough for me to comment on what i haven't seen yet. we have to wait until the process works out. >> you say you're surprised i be that charge. why? >> because she knows the evidence, but that type of -- that he did something truly lawful and i think the evidence suggests there was a question and controversy over what happened. but quite honestly we do need to wait to see what the evidence tells us. >> have you had much time to look over the case at this point or are you too new at this juncture? >> no, i'm that new to it. i have only seen what's in the media. so it's really difficult for me to speak at all about the evidence and wouldn't be anyway. >> i assume you have had a chat with george zimmerman. can you give us a sense of his mood? >> well, i think he's troubled by the fact that the state decid
mr. zimmerman, mark o'mara. we found out this evidence that he will be representing mr. zimmerman. mr. o'mara, tell me your reaction first of all to the charges this afternoon? >> again, i'm surprised that she charged with second degree, but she knows the evidence i don't know yet so it's tough for me to comment on what i haven't seen yet. we have to wait until the process works out. >> you say you're surprised i be that charge. why? >> because she knows the evidence, but that...
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mr. zimmerman or someone matching mr. zimmerman was on top of trayvon martin, and got up and got off and then how do we get a gunshot wound to the chest and a victim face down in the grass who's about 160 pounds? >> well, that's precisely what one of the problems are here. and ashleigh, i have to tell you, your intro to this piece was a closing argument for the defense frankly in terms of all the conflicting evidence and your direct examination of this witness i think actually this witness helps the defense in some ways. if you take a look at that law down here and i finally kind of studied it a little bit and have determined that one of the reasons i think that there was not a filing and they basically arrested and then let go, this law reads basically if you're in reasonable fear that then there is immunity, actual immunity from being arrested. >> but mark -- >> hold on. >> but the law also says, mark, if you're the first aggressor, you cannot avail yourself -- >> oh, my goodness. we just opened up another can of worms o
mr. zimmerman or someone matching mr. zimmerman was on top of trayvon martin, and got up and got off and then how do we get a gunshot wound to the chest and a victim face down in the grass who's about 160 pounds? >> well, that's precisely what one of the problems are here. and ashleigh, i have to tell you, your intro to this piece was a closing argument for the defense frankly in terms of all the conflicting evidence and your direct examination of this witness i think actually this...
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mr. zimmerman, let me go back.re telling the story of your son and none of us were there and i know people are trying to put this together. but i would argue there's been a rush to judgment. by that the president has weighed into this. members of congress has used terms that trayvon was hunted like a rabid dog, racial profile was involved in the case, that was rush, and jesse jackson, he killed an unarmed 17-year-old kid and then, quote, walks away. this is racial profiling and lies. see many things have been said that he was executed for wwbgc, walking while black in a gated community. what do you say to the president? what do you say to these members of congress? what do you say to all these activists and people who have, quote, rushed to judgment here? >> i just believe it's very sad that so many people are not telling the truth on purpose for their own agenda. i really thought that we had gotten past a lot of racial problems. >> you said about the president, you didn't see so much hate, you didn't expect or for
mr. zimmerman, let me go back.re telling the story of your son and none of us were there and i know people are trying to put this together. but i would argue there's been a rush to judgment. by that the president has weighed into this. members of congress has used terms that trayvon was hunted like a rabid dog, racial profile was involved in the case, that was rush, and jesse jackson, he killed an unarmed 17-year-old kid and then, quote, walks away. this is racial profiling and lies. see many...