mr. abbott. >> mr. t, you describe yourself as a project manager. >> project controls manager. >> how long have you been doing this? >> it has pretty much been my whole career for 30 to 33 years. >> has most of it been on offshore platforms? >> probably about seven years of it has been offshore, and the rest has been onshore. everything from $70 million project to $3 billion project's onshore. >> so as a project manager, with seven years and the additional years onshore experience, you have what is considered good experience on offshore platforms. >> correct. but she indicated that you have worked for shell and what other companies? >> some of the major oil companies are shell and general electric, and bp, of course. engineering procurement and construction companies include -- >> let's stipulate for the record this is not your first -- the reason i am asking is because i am trying to get some comparative analysii based on the testimony you have given us with regard your experience with british petroleum