mr. adriel bettelheim, back to the president's visit yesterday. we have video. symbolic. substantive and a little bit of both. what's this mean for the party of the president coming up? guest: showing him a little love. they've been working pretty much nonstop on this and his assistant almost said that. it's an empathetic gesture i'm here with you too but it was lacking much in substance. the president has been very reluctant to talk about specifics. he doesn't bring a laundry list of demands of what he wants to see in this bill and that frustrates senators that want to see more leadership. two things the president doesn't want to under mine discussions going on behind closed doors saying i want this when harry reed and others might agree to something else. number two wants to keep congress invested with them emotionally and let them hash out the specifics and doesn't want them to turn to him and say, okay you tell us what you want. it's this dynamic all year long and i wouldn't expect a change at this point. host: in addition to abortion and public option. adriel bettelh

mr. adriel bettelheim, can you help us out? guest: it is a little confusing. first of all you have the senate bill that's very much in play between that are dollar 800 and $900 billion dollars and a house bill that will expand medicaid offer coverage to more people. it probably in access of 1 trillion dollar price tag so as stuff beats pulled in and added. as they talk about covering more people and cutting this and that it's like a moving target. the score card changes and each time they make a policy change they have to go to the nonpartisan congressional budget office which is numbers people that crunch numbers to come up with a new price tag and this is why all the talk about, c.b.o. scoreing is important in all this. it tells them how much this will cost and then think have a sense how to justify it to the voters. that's why there's different voters out there. host: who are you watching most closely in the next few day? guest: i think senator delegation, these liberal democrats. how with this can they come up with compromises without deflections from eith