the governor was of the opinion that he should also have a meeting with mr. agius and in fact mr. rake and i thought that was a sensible thing to do. the governor has regular meetings and always had regular meetings with the chairman and chief executive of major banks. this was also an issue, by the way, of our appropriate approach to this issue, which we had discussed, the governor, myself and andrew bailey on the thursday, actually when we were doing the rehearsal for the f pc press conference on the friday, we had decided the appropriate line that we should all take at that time and you'll see that reflected. >> for additional background. my question is quite direct which is why did you not handle this situation to its conclusion as the chairman? >> thought it was appropriate for the governor to see mr. agius and to put over a message as well and it was a message which -- >> why? >> -- the governor and i discussed. >> he has no regulatory authority? >> the role of the bank of england in terms of the need for banks to feel that they have the confidence of the bank of england i t