commissioners, views on testimony from mr. agnos? would you like to -- >> my understanding is that he told me early -- mayor lee not to suspend sheriff mirkarimi, and the mayor decided otherwise. i do not see how that is relevant. one of the arguments that has been raised is that this is essentially epochal prosecution. one of the reasons we have identified some any expert witnesses to talk about practice issues and professional standards issues is to defeat that kind of claim, to show that on the merits the conduct can meet that standard. what i am gathering from the relevance is that that is a line the sheriff is going to pursue. we do not think that has ever been an appropriate set of arguments. the mayor is not on trial for his decision to suspend the sheriff. >> comments or questions from either party? >> mr. wagner, is that correct, how mr. keith characterized what the former mayor would testify to? >> i believe i have already stated the testimony would impeach the credibility, vis-a- vis the conversations he had with nearly --

mr. waggoner. just to recap, art agnos, the commission decided we would not need the declaration. same with phil bronstein. jan dempsey, we expect the parties to reach a stipulation on. john keene, withdrawn. evelyn nyevez withdrawn. lydia stiglitz withdrawn. andrea wright withdrawn. they are subject to potentially being called as rebuttal witnesses, if their testimony would rebut. >> nancy miller is a yes? >> everyone else is in. >> did i get that correctly? >> on the nose. >> everybody else is a yes. anything else with respect to your witnesses? >> no, thank you. >> i would next like to address scheduling. as the commissioners have said at the outset, we want this to proceed as quickly as we reasonably can proceed. we are trying to open up our schedule so it works, looking at this in an efficient and fair manner. we do have a room and availability on june 19 to begin the evidentiary proceedings. is counsel available on that date in the evening? we had a start time, but i want to double check with the commissioners. what time are the commissioners available on that day? >> i beli

agnos? >> i would request a few minute recess before we go into our witness list. >> ok. we will >> we are back in session, if people can please take their seats. mr. wagner, you were going to address the sheriff's witnesses. i am a little surprised. when mr. kopp stood up, he clearly said he only needed two witnesses, the mayor and the sheriff. the other witnesses were there as defensive measures. that is the color through which i am reviewing other discussion. >> if i may, let me clarify that i think you misunderstood. the distinction is between live witness testimony and decorations. that is what the comments were referring to. we believe it is our position, in terms of live witness testimony, the only essential witnesses are the sheriff and the mayor. all other testimony could be submitted. that is what he intended to convey. >> please proceed. >> as to the former mayor -- >> we need to hear from the former mayor. >> mayor agnos is expected to testify because it would impeach mayor lee's.