mr. albence, could you produce me and my staff copies of the forms that mr. lbence has been getting parents ? ice has been getting parents. >> we have form as part of the case easily you developed and approved by the court. i cancertainly give you a copy of that . >> would be helpful because there's a lot of stories, both sides that these are folks who are well-informed and making responsible decisions to return to their countries of origin and leave their children here and there's some very disturbing reporting that the opposite is the case. mr. albence, our parents given the opportunity to consult with a lawyer and their children they sign a form waving theirlegal rights to be reunited? >> as required , realizing the form we discussed, there is a 48 hour waiting period in which the individual is allowed to contact an attorney, they make the easy on you. we have signposted. which is by simone and a way to do so. allows individuals who are not members of the class to still make contact. they so desire. >> are able to contact? >> they do have contact with their

mr. albence this may be for you or mr. mchenry. we've made progress on etsome language here working with senator feinstein and others on the other side of the aisle to try and figure out a way to get reunification done. mr. mchenry, we have talked about authorizations for judges up to i think an aggregate of 700. ratio of 2.5 attorneys to each judge. the right kind of resources to support clearing the docket. we have talked about making sure that we have standards for family detention that is up to the level of quality we want versus the tent cities are the things people would lead you to believe we would stand up to house families. those are things that we found agreement on. but for some reason we have a different opinion about how we would have to have language that tailors the application of flores to those that have parents in detention. some would say do not need that language. mr. albence, what would you say to that? that you would not need that clarification to be able to keep the family unit together pending processing thr

mr. albence, can you in your answer discuss the implications, the conferences of the flores consent decree and how that constrains your abilities? >> the biggest issues, is when we have a family held together, the flores decision which was from 1997 and then reinterpreted by the judge in 2016 and applied -- the uac requirements the family detention, even though it did not exist in 1997, it requires us to release those individuals within 20 days of taking them into custody, and we cannot effectuate the entire immigration hearing process, asylum process within that 20-day period. as a result, we have no choice but to release these individuals out into the communities, and most times we do not see them again. sen. cruz: thanks. >> i cannot agree with your statement more that the administration has mishandled family separation and i would say you sit here now in the middle of a humanitarian crisis largely of the trump administration's creation. the zero-tolerance policy as led to the separation of thousands of children, including infants and toddlers from their parents, and has intentionally i

mr. matthew albence.eared to be losing her patience, he lost his patience because she didn't understand the law. she was -- just watch this. >> would you send your child to frcs? >> again, i think what we're missing the point. these individuals are there because they have broken a law. >> there has to be a process. >> this have broken a law only as deemed so by the president with his -- >> -- no, ma'am. they are there for vital of title 8 of the u.s. nationality act. they are in those frcs pending the outcome of that civil imcongratulations process. they have broken the law. they were criminal proceedings when the border patrol prosecuted them. but, at the conclusion of that process, once the individual came into ice custody, they would go through administrative proceedings. >> i'm confused. steve: apparently the senator from hawaii didn't understand that the parents were separated from the children because the parents had broken the law. it's just a fact. and she thought it was because of the president's