mr. anthony little better? >> yes. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. nthony. >> yes, sir, i did. and was it an intimate relationship? >> yes . did mr. anthony go to your home and to your apartment? >> it was my home and yes, he did. >> we are going to show you why that is relevant. as she continue to testify, jaws were dropping in the courtroom about what george allegedly told her in one of their tryst. we'll bring in our legal panel. bureau chief in the king's district county office. the forensic pathologist and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. >> this is classic he said/she said going on. >> yes, but she has a key piece of evidence if the jury believes her could acquit casey anthony in that it was an accident and that spiraled out of control and that's the point the defense want to make. >> we'll show you in a second. george, the excop he is sort of slid in their alleged criminal record so that the jurors heard it. you can't unring the bell. >> he is a bright man and he knows what he is doing. i think in general i am with george anthon

mr. anthony a little better? >> yes. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony? >> we started to. >> and was it an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> what else did crystal holloway have to say? we'll hear that when we come back. >>> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony? >> we started. >> and was it an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> did you have a romantic relationship with her? >> no, sir, no. she made that -- that's very funny. >> can you read the date of that text message to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury and then its context. >> tuesday, december 16th. >> what year? >> it doesn't say. >> okay. go on. >> from george anthony. just thinking about you. i need you in my life. >> did you at any time tell her not to say anything about your affair with her? >> sir, i never had a romantic affair with crystal holloway, rivercruise or whatever name she wanted to give you or the world. if i'm not mistaken, sir, she has a questionable past. >> i didn't think she could raise somebody that was capal of hurting her child. that's when he said it was an accid

mr. anthony a little better? >> yes. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony? >> yes, sir i did. >> was this an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> did mr. anthony go to your home or your apartment? >> it was my home and yes he did. >> about how many times, did he go to our house? >> maybe 12. >> miss holloway, did there ever come an occasion where you had a heart to heart conversation with george anthony, as to what happened to his granddaughter? >> yes. >> tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what you were doing and how that transpired. >> particular night that you are referring to? >> yes. >> he was sitting on my couch. i was sitting on the floor. he told me -- he had said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. i was in shock. by the time i looked up his eyes were filled with tears and i didn't elaborate. i didn't ask him anything further. >> did -- was this before caylee was found? >> yes, sir. it was around thanksgiving time. i believe. >> were you prompting him? were you asking him? >> no, sir. >> the topic just came up and -- >> not exactl

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mr. anthony wait until the 15th to pick up the car? why? remember this fact, mr. burch said when mr. anthony went to pick up the car, he showed up with a gas can. he knew the car was out of gas. an important and even more important fact that you should remember is not only did he know it was out of gas, he knew the car had been at the amscot for three days. remember that? he said mr. anthony told me it had been there for three days. i said would you have known it was there for three days? no, as tow people we go pick it up. we would have no idea how long a car has been at a certain place. he told us it was there for three days. mr. anthony got up on the stand and he said, i called when i got to work. i found out it was there three days when i got to work. i asked him, did you call mr. birch to let him know it had been there for three days? he said no. so how in the world did mr. birch know that the car was at the amscot for three days? he knew because george anthony told him. george anthony knew that that car was at the amscot. he knew that that car was out of gas, and he showed up to

mr. anthony a little better? >> yes. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony?and was this an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> what else did krystal holloway have to say? you will hear that when we come back. of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. it's the at&t network... purina cat chow helps you well-being. we're all striving for it. nurture it in your cat with a full family of excellent nutrition and helpful resources. purina cat chow. share a better life. >>> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony? >> yes, sir, i did. >> and was this an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> did you have a romantic relationship with her? >> no, sir, no. to me, that's, that's very funny. >> can you read the date of

mr. anthony said he would trade places with his daughter in a second. >>... mr. ashton. >> sustained. >> his arg-- this argument cann be followed to any logical conclusion. the way these remains were disposed of shows complete, complete indifference to the child. it speaks volumes about how the person who disposed of her really felt about her. this is how george and cindy anthony felt about their granddaughter. they built her a play house in the backyard. george anthony landscaped it for her. put you a little mailbox out there for her with her name on it. put a stone space... >> [inaudible]. >> overruled. >> put a stone base under that play house so that caylee wouldn't have to sit on the ground in case it was wet. so that caylee wouldn't have to sit on the ground, where an insect could crawl on her. on those cell videos, you have heard mr. anthony over and over again trying to get casey to talk to law enforcemen to the sheriffs office. to the federal bureau of investigation. if he was so diabolical, that he was trying to cover up something, why would he want his

mr. anthony had molested casey. we were saying george never supported that theory. >> you said they believed her not to be -- do they still believe her to be not innocent? >> you have to look at the context of everything that has done in the trial. doesn't matteder what they believe at this point. everybody has opinions. t whenever you were right as they identified correctly the you united states offers rights. they gave the rights to casey they found her not guilty. >> what was the headline? >> he said acquitted he did not say innocent. what we are hearing again is -- >> i am talking about jose baez. >> jose baez said she was acquitted. acquittal does not mean innocent. jose baez does not follow that trap. >> i quitted means he could right a book. >> she could right a book but acquitted doesn't mean she is innocent. >> a book deal, a life in hiding, motherhood again. whakdz the future hold for casey anthony? what could we ever -- could we ever for give her? the little >> there's sn no place she coulo where she is s

mr. anthony, you know, didn't you attempt to commit suicide. mr. anthony said that he did. mr. baez asked him, well, didn't you express some guilt in the suicide letter? that's of course before you actually would have had a chance to see it. now, of course, mr. baez seems to be telling you it wasn't really a suicide attempt. it was a couple of beers and some blood pressure medication. that's not what george anthony said. he took blood pressure medication, ang mxiety medicine. because he wanted to die. he wanted to be with caylee. he was tired of all of it. he was tired of the questions. he was tired of not knowing. he just wanted to be with his granddaughter. you cannot read this letter and not see that this man was in pa pain. you could seen see the effects of the drugs and alcohol as his handwriting deteriorates through this letter. this is not some self-serving, slib r deliberately created manifesto. this is the cry of a man who just doesn't understand the world anymore. he doesn't understand what happened to his granddaughter. he doesn't understand why his daughter won't te

mr. george anthony or mr. lee anthony molested or attempted to molest miss anthony. >> reporter: that left casey's defense team arguing that caylee's death was just a terrible accident that was mishandled by the family. >> if you look at all of the evidence here, it only adds up to one thing. and that is, she died by an accident. this was an accident that snowballed out of control. >> reporter: but the prosecution tried to paint a picture of a young woman who wanted freedom from the responsibility of raising her daughter. >> when you use your common sense, you can listen and hear that there's nothing that's wrong with casey anthony that can't be explained using two words. pathological liar. >> reporter: yet, the physical evidence remained a problem for the prosecution. that's because caylee was missing for so long. it was six months before her body was found. and it had simply decomposed too much. >> i never, ever criticize a jury. theirs is the task of decides what to believe. >> reporter: and so the mystery r

mr. anthony? >> yes, sir i did. >> was this an intimate relationship? >> yes. he was sitting on my couch. i was sitting on the floor. and he told me, he said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. but i was in shock. by the time i looked up, his eyes were filled with tears. >> had you held out the hope that caylee would be found alive? >> absolutely, everyday from july 15th, until the day we were told it was caylee. >> i did not search for neck-breaking. but i do recall there was a pop-up that was showing a youtube regarding a skateboarder that was skate wording -- that was skateboarding on rails. >> i believe mrs. anthony testified that during her searches there was a pop-up. >> not the result of a pop-up. but is the result of a human being specifically entering neck and breaking into the google search box and pressing search. >> why would your work schedule show that you were working? >> could have been an error if my supervisor filled out my time card in my absence if it came on a data our time cards were to turn in. >> was there every a time tha

mr. anthony? >> yes,sir, i did. >> and was this an intimate relationship? >> yes. >> and did mr. thony go to your home or your apartment? >> it was my home. and yes, he did. >> about how many times did he go to your house? >> maybe 12. >> reporter: and it was a one night in her home she said george anthony broke down. >> he was sitting on my couch. and i was sitting on the floor. and he had told me -- he had said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. but i was in shock. and by the time i looked up, his eyes were filled with tears. and i didn't elaborate. i didn't ask him anything further. >> did -- was this before caylee was found? >> yes,sir. >> reporter: on cross-examination, prosecution attorney jeff ashton said holloway told police she never had an affair with anthony. suggesting she manufactured the story to sell to the media. >> and the story is much, much better if you're actually having an affair with george, right? it's much more sensational. >> i did have an affair with george. >> but you would agree that story is much sexier if you're actually having an aff

mr. anthony? >> no, sir. i need to get through this. i need to have something inside of me get through this. >> reporter: and his admission that he had bought a gun at one point and checked into a motel and had written out a suicide note. >> late january of 2009, you attempted to commit suicide. did you, s s? >> yes, sir, i did. >> reporter: today, there were no tears. as he heard krystal holloway say not only that he had an affair with her but he told her things about caylee's dispeernts. >> he had said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. >> reporter: a story that began to fall apart under cross examination, along with holloway's credibility. >> you had no choice but to tell the truth, but you lied. >> yes, sir, i did lie. >> reporter: it's the sense of the courtroom thth george anthony has successfully fended off these accusations of adultery and sexual abuse. >> i think the defense would have been far better off from the beginning, simply saying this was an accident. rather than pointing the finger at george anthonon i

mr. anthony wait until the 15th to pick up the car? why? remember tis fact. mr. birch said when george anthony went to pick up the car, he showed up with gas can. he knew the car was out of gas. an even more important fact that you should remember, not only did he know it was out of gas, he knew that the car had been at the amscot for three days. remember that? he said mr. anthony told me it had been there for three days and i asked him would you have known it was there for three days? no. i tell people we just go pick up a the tow yard. we would have no idea the car has been at a cern place. but he told us it was there for three days. though mr. anthony heard that testiny, he got up here on the stand and he said i called when i got to work. i found out that it was there three days when i got to work. i asked them, did you call mr. birch to let him know it had been there for three days? no. so how in the world did mr. birch know that the car was at the amscot for three days? he knew because george abbottny told him. george anthony knew that the car was at the amsc

mr. anthony? >> no, sir. i need to get through this. i need to have something inside of me get through this. >> do you need a break, mr. anthony? >> no, sir, i'm fine. >> reporter: his daughter the accused. >> casey is a very effective liar. >> he spins tales. >> reporter: the world has its opinions of her, in countless tv arguments. >> troubled, narcissistic, self-involved, selfish young lady. >> reporter: but he is her dad. >> did you ever tell the police that you thought your daughter murdered your granddaughter? >> i didn't believe that at that time, sir. i -- no. >> if you were to see them outside the courtroom and not know who they were, you would think this is a loving family. >> reporter: steve helling covered the trial for "people" magazine. >> this is a family who seems to have it all. they don't have any problems. but once youou go into the courtroom and you see what they're looking at and what they're hearing and what their daughter is accused of doing, then you realize that they're ho

mr. anthony a little better? >> yes. >> did you develop a relationship with mr. anthony?tionship? >> yes. >> and did mr. anthony go to your home or your apartment? >> it was my home and yes, he did. >> about how many times did he go to your house? >> maybe 12. >> he denies it. >> i think it destroys his credibility. so if the jurors are looking at his credibility as a bellwether of the strength of the prosecution's case, that puts some dents in it. the problem is, lousy case put in by both sides in this particular case. we're going to have closing arguments over the weekend. fox, we'll be covering it, every minute. i'll be there tomorrow with some great experts and some of the talent from around here and around the country will be talking about it. >> looking forward to hearing from you about that. peter johnson, jr., thank you. >> coming up on the show, remember this song? ♪ breathe. >> don't change the channel. anna any link performing her new song on the summer concert series, when we come back. ♪ . >> we are here with anna nalick and that incredible song "breathe" cam

. >> was george anthony's life better? mr. ashton went over what george anthony's life was like, as a result of losing his beloved granddaughter. >> on january 22nd, 2009, he wanted to day. he wanted to be with caylee. that's all he wanted. >> whose life was better?):çnoñy that's the only question you need to answer in considering why caylee marie anthony was left on the side of the road, dead. >> members of the jury, i would like to thank you for your attention during the trial. please pay attention to the instructions i'm about to give you. in this case, casey marie anthony is accused of mur in the first degree. aggravated child abuse. aggravated manslaughter of a child. and four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer. if you return a verdict of guilty, it should be for the highest offense, which has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. if you find no offense has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt, then of course your verdict must be not guilty if you fail to follow the law, your verdict will

mr. anthony about his missing daughter and grand child neither he or george called the could bees but he takes the trash out of the trunk and says this is your source of smell and flips it over to the dumpster. all of these things start mounting up. reasonable doubt. this is about the murder weapon on the guess of probabilities, could be -- how many times did you hear "could be," or "might be," or "would be," and in the opening statement, we heard "in all likelihood." the characterization that he made himself, "in all likelihood." well, that doesn't quite make it. let's talk about burden proof requires and what it means and how you can think about it. you may have other definitions. if you have if you go and listen to the best arguments and the evidence and you talk about things and discuss it you may have an abiding belief now or tomorrow or whatever, that, not guilty, that is esy. in the guilty. highly unlikely that she is guilty. okay. good. you may find that this is likely. or unlikely. possibly not. may not be. perhaps. all these can be things, well, you know, maybe she is in the, p

mrs. anthony? anthony describes how just a year prior to her death caylee barely needed help getting up the ladder into the pool. could she have climbed up that ladder on june 16th, 2008 to her death as the defense claims? and did george anthony confide to an alleged mistress about the drowning? >> he had said that it was an accident that snowballed out of control. >> george anthony denies the affair and says that conversation never took place. then the defense comes back to the story laid out in its opening statement that the anthony family has dark secrets. leave anthony, casey's older brother breaks down on the stand as he tells how casey's pregnancy was kept from him. >> i was very angry at my mom and i was also angry at my sister. they didn't want to include me. and didn't find it important enough to tell me. >> and then george anthony takes the stand denying the defense's claims that he sexually molested his daughter. >> my question is you would never admit to it, would you, sir? >> sir, i wo

mr. george anthony or mr. lee anthony molested or attempted to molest miss anthony.alad and biscuits followed by 1 of 7 delicious entrees and finish with something sweet all for just $15. right now at red lobster. >>> the significance of what i'm about to tell you isn't just that casey anthony lies. it is the pattern and the reason that she lies. that is important in this case. because what you'll see and what i'm going to tell you and what you've heard in this case is that when casey is faced with a problem, her solution is to change her lie. to modify it. casey is smart. casey is quick. it is absolutely amazing how nimble casey anthony's mind is and the ability to come up with an appropriate and believable lie in an instant. she is impressive. >> welcome back. that was prosecutor jeff ashton trying to convince jurors that casey anthony is a liar and a good one at that. my panel is back. i'll start with holly hughes. they're honing in, zeroing in on the lies. not only from casey anthony but also from her mother and her father and her brother and because i would thin

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mr. anthony. jury chose to disregard, based on this issue with regard to the mistress. and based on the statement about an accident that snowballed out of control. this jury had more than enough -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: >> do i think there's involvement here -- for that little girl's sake we have to get to the bottom of the it. it may be casey and george involvement. >> there has to be justice. but there can't be justice through vigilante television hosts. you've never engaged in that. but that can't be a substitute. >> sean: i was watching tv like super bowl sunday, who won today. sickening. we are going to come back. more with our legal panel after the break. [ male annocer ] things seem better with travelocity's best price guarantee. our girl's an architect. our boy's a genius. we are awesome parents! biddly-boop. [ male announcer ] if you find a lower rate on a room you've booked, we won't just match it. we'll give you $50 towards your next trip. [ gnome ] it's go time. >> sean:

mr. anthony? >> yes, sir i did. >> was this an intimate relationship? >> yes.n't think that he could raise somebody that was capable of harming her child. that's when he said i was an accident that snowballed out of control. but i was caught off guard with it. by the time i looked up he had tears in his eyes. >> how much money did you or some members of your family get for selling your story? >> $4,000. >> you felt the national enquirer was the one news source that you could trust to tell your story and not sensationalize it? >> that irrelevant to the issue. other than deciding to argue that's what this is more blah, blah, blah. >> by the time she was a senior in high school she was aware of burial and the method of burial in the yard. >> yes, ma'am. >> is it your decision not to testify based on consultation with your counsel? >> yes, sir. >> your honor, the[-qúg defense rests. >> the trial went from crazy to crazier today. joining me with reaction our legal analysts. guys welcome. the defense rested in the casey anthony trial without calling the defendant to

mr. anthony about the sports authority job early 2008. george is getting suspicious. and george is trying to find out what's really going on, but george is being told to stay out of it. you'll read george's suicide letter, it actually says in there, one point, i think on the third page, he says, i've tried for months, in fact, over a year, and i was told to stop being negative. george is trying to get beneath the layer of lies, at least to the sports authority issue, but being told to stay out of it. stop being negative. and casey's lies continue. but there's a problem. the only way casey's lies work is if caylee isn't talking. caylee's 2 1/2, almost 3. she's starting to become verbal. she's starting to talk. caylee is not going to cooperate. she can't. she doesn't know enough to lie. at some point, caylee is going to say something. someone's going to ask her about zani and she's going to say, who? someone will ask her, did you have a good time at zani's? she's going to say, no, tony. it just can't keep going. casey meets tony. tony has this life. he's free. he's a cl

mr. anthony went through the other day in explaining himself in his suicide.t me tell you, he has no credibility with this jury. he lost it a long time ago. >> okay. joe episcopo, i'm happy for your emphatic opinions. we like hearing them here on msnbc saturday. >> still ahead, america on the fourth of july, but how is the economy affecting travel plans? you're watching msnbc saturday. at bayer, we've been relieving pain for over 100 years. and today, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspirin. it has microparticles so it enters the bloodstream faster and rushes relief right to the site of your tough pain. ♪ in fact, it's clinically proven to relieve pain twice as fast. new bayer advanced aspirin. extra strength pain relief, twice as fast. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with

anthony. and the child. there was nod of decomposition at the scene. no bugs. whatever. and mr.inted out no bugs in the trunk. only in the trash. the issue of chloroform was brought up. from the beginning. what a media baby this was. i must remind you about this evidence. dr. sigmond extracted two large bags of air from the trunk of the car at the same time, in the same way, at the same place. he took one to his laboratory. and sent one to another lab. the doctor's lab says major compound was gasoline. and there was a small trace of chloroform which he also said is everywhere. everywhere. the opposing side, no, no, no, we had this shockingly high level. we don't know how much but it watts shockingly high. and mr. baez, the witness said, no, no, no, very low. search warrants at house three times. in common sense experience you know the police do not call up and say well be there at 6:45 so be read. they are issued where a legal process is ordered by the judge and the law enforcement officers go "surprise," and they searched the anthony residence and they searched it all. they sea

mr. anthony, no relation to casey anthony. 12 different stories and different backgrounds. decision like in ten or 11 hours, and number two, in my mind, the prosecution and the defense both had to pretty much agree on who these jurors would be. in hind sooisight now it looks the prosecution chose poorly and the defense chose wisely. your views. >> okay, joe. let's see. first of all, i think we have to thing about this from the perspective of laypeople, jurors. i think a first comment would be 11 hours is a lot of time for people to sit together. i think from a lawyer's point of view, they always think there's a certain length of time during which jurors need to deliberate in a case, but the reality is jurors do their very best to make decisions based upon what's presented to them, and once they've reached that decision, they don't feel compelled to stay longer than that amount of time. and my observation would be in this case, there's likely at least three factors that came into play in their decision. one would be the fact that jurors today really expect the -- as we like

mr. baez, you had asked me to reserve ruling on your motion for mistrial. >> we -- your honor. >> okay. okay. that takes care of that. the defendant casey anthony is before the court for sentencing on counts 4, 5, and 6, providing false information to a law enforcement officer. mr. baez, do you know of any legal calls why we should not proceed to sentencing at this time, sir? >> 4, 5, 6 and 7. >> and 7. >> and only legal calls that we have is previously filed motions attacking -- no legal calls like you can't proceed to sentencing with the subsequent remedies that she takes. >> would the state care, at this time, to present any matters relative to aggravation? >> not on that issue, your honor, no. >> state care to present any issues at this time concerning any other matter? >> your honor, yesterday, i filed a motion to tax special cost of investigation and prosecution and to reserve jurisdiction. the only reason that i would bring this up prior to the actual sentencing has to do with the jurisdiction of the court, once sentence is imposed if defense counsel attends to appeal the misdemeanor convictions, then this court would not be able to ente