mr. arguello would sign the deal, we h'd all go away. >> mr. tierra, you have any rebuttal? >> the changes that mr. papadopolous is talking about only happened on the 30th at 10:00 p.m. that's when i received the e-mail. we had been negotiating on a document that i still believe is unlawful. last night at 8:00, i got an e-mail from the executive director of meta, luis granados, who -- that -- it says here bo, at 8:00, do not contact us again. i am asking for a system to no longer accept your e-mails. so contrary to what mr. papadopolous is saying, i don't think they've acted in approximate good faith, and i think that the commission should listen to mr. christiansen, his analysis is spot on. it's also lawful and what meta is requesting is -- is really to hold up my project for their larger grievances. >> president hillis: all right. this closes this portion of the hearing. we'll open it up to commissioner comments and questions. commissioner richards? >> vice president richards: so we're getting two opposing stories here: good faith, not so good faith, sign the mou now, no,