mr. arouca, you discussed and mr. hynes as well, perform inspections there's not enough time.you talked about advocating for two-person crew minimums and what could happen if there were to be one person on those trains. that's in our legislation. my point is we've got to pass the darn bill. there are provisions in here that will keep folks safer, that will make rail safety, give us the ability not just to protect communities but move things safely on the rails. my constituents saw a toxic fireball flyover their houses after this derailment, one that shouldn't have happened. my constituents and neighbors in ohio are worried about the health of their families, worried about the drinking water, the air they breathe, the land they grow their crops on, and congress has yet to pass rail safety legislation. we are finally seeing momentum. i'll ask a simple question down the line, chairman homedy, do you trust the big railroads themselves? >> i do not. >> no. >> i'm not sure i'm qualified to answer that. >> fair enough. >> can i use a curse word to say -- no, absolutely not. >> i'm no

mr. arouca. mr. hynes computers you.you're recognized for recognized for five minutes. >> good afternoon -- [inaudible] good afternoon, chairman nehls, ranking member wilson, members of the committee. thank you for allowing me to testify today. my name is gregory hynes. i am the national legislative director for the transportation division of sheet metal, air, rail and transportation. smart-td is a largest labor organization an american railroad. we are extremely thankful to chairman nehls and congressman moulton as well as the current cosponsors for for the leadp was to prioritize safety in the railroad industry. personally, chairman nehls, i would like to thank you for being an honest broker throughout this process. i appreciate it. the disaster at each palestinian ohio on february 3, 2023 served as a wake-up call call to the nation, for the men and women in the ranks of america's railroad workers, it was no surprise. the unfortunate reality is that in the accidents wake little has changed. three major rail related acc

mr. arouca, is like the what the railroad from his information did, that's absolutely unacceptable. anytime fra sees that a railroad is a gaming the system, is gaming the inspection process that we have the oversight that we have, we are going to take action on that. it was a railroad the found out about our safety culture assessment and the questions we're going to ask in that assessment, as soon as we found withdrew that safety culture assessment of that railroad and made it clear that's unacceptable. >> my times expired, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> thank you. the gentleman yields. are there any further questions from the members of the subcommittee that is not been recognized? seeing none, we have votes here i see on the screen. this concludes are heading for today. i want to thank each and everyone of you for being here. i thought this, this was a very productive meeting and this subcommittee stands adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

mr. arouca, is like the what the railroad from his information did, that's absolutely unacceptable. anytime fra sees that a railroad is a gaming the system, is gaming the inspection process that we have the oversight that we have, we are going to take action on that. it was a railroad the found out about our safety culture assessment and the questions we're going to ask in that assessment, as soon as we found withdrew that safety culture assessment of that railroad and made it clear that's unacceptable. >> my times expired, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> thank you. the gentleman yields. are there any further questions from the members of the subcommittee that is not been recognized? seeing none, we have votes here i see on the screen. this concludes are heading for today. i want to thank each and everyone of you for being here. i thought this, this was a very productive meeting and this subcommittee stands adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] house homeland security. live coverage on c-span 3. >> the committee on homeland security subcommittee will come to

mr. arouca, , i had been a me aware that inspection porters utilizing ai are being tested by number of railroads and third parties. in your testimony you acknowledge this technology has the capacity to improve rail safety and increase the effectiveness of inspections if used properly. where does your union stand on these technologies? and with the help minimize the risk of accidents like the one that occurred in east palestine? >> thank you, congresswoman. yes, as mentioned in my testimony are a number of technologies that exist that the railroads are either lightly deploying or testing, or using improperly, such as these digital inspection of portals. these are big camera rings. they have high-speed cameras that capture hundreds, thousands of images per second. and then use machine vision and machine learning to actually try to identify defects. what we would like to see in the industry is that information be given directly to a carman in the yard as a train is coming in so they have, imagine and ipad on your wrist and you sitting there saying i have got defects in cars 110, 28, et cetera. unfo